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Old 07-30-2006, 11:39 PM
Art McClinton
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All you need to do in this case is edit the split. Since you have
already accepted them and reconciled the account you will get a warning
but accept it and fix the transaction. No need to accept again as it
has been accepted prior.

Randy wrote:
- quote -

> I've just discovered that this problem with "splits" is happening to me.
> You guys say the fix has to do with pressing "Enter" before "Accept" on
> downloaded transactions. So what do you do if you have already made the
> mistake and pressed the "Accept" button? Every subsequent time that I have
> re-edited the splits in a transaction it still doesn't save them and the
> original "wrong" split info is still there. What do I do? How do you get
> the "Accept" button to reappear after you've "Accepted" and then later
> reconciled the account against your bank statement?
> Any help would be apprciated.
> Randy
> "Harvested" <apn100057718[at]forteinc.com> wrote in message
> news:u31pa2dvbv937ejaa6mtnb07peguko4htp[at]4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:41:03 -0700, Del <Del[at]discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote:
> > > > > I wonder if this is my problem - I'm still using 2003, and today I
> > > discovered that our split data from the last six months or so, all
> > > carefully
> > > entered by me, seems to have permanently disappeared.
> > > Chances are that it didn't disappear, but never was saved by Money

> > when you entered it. If you didn't hit "Enter," before "Accepting"
> > the split, Money discards your splits. Or at least it does in Money
> > 2006. I'm not sure about 2003, as it's been a while since I've run
> > that.
> > > > > > Might this be an
> > > incompatibility issue with the bank using 2006?
> > > No. This has nothing to do with the bank. At least in my case it

> > doesn't. This is infomation entered into previously downloaded
> > transactions that I later entered split information into. FWIW it's
> > been confirmed as a problem by the tech I corresponded with at MS.
> > It's been added to the list of things to eventually fix.
> > > If you'd like to add your request to get this fixed, I posted a link

> > elsewhere in this thread.

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Old 07-30-2006, 09:43 PM
Randy
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Default Re: Split Transaction Annoyance

I've just discovered that this problem with "splits" is happening to me.
You guys say the fix has to do with pressing "Enter" before "Accept" on
downloaded transactions. So what do you do if you have already made the
mistake and pressed the "Accept" button? Every subsequent time that I have
re-edited the splits in a transaction it still doesn't save them and the
original "wrong" split info is still there. What do I do? How do you get
the "Accept" button to reappear after you've "Accepted" and then later
reconciled the account against your bank statement?

Any help would be apprciated.
Randy


"Harvested" <apn100057718[at]forteinc.com> wrote in message
news:u31pa2dvbv937ejaa6mtnb07peguko4htp[at]4ax.com...
- quote -

> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:41:03 -0700, Del <Del[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > I wonder if this is my problem - I'm still using 2003, and today I

> > discovered that our split data from the last six months or so, all
> > carefully
> > entered by me, seems to have permanently disappeared.

> Chances are that it didn't disappear, but never was saved by Money
> when you entered it. If you didn't hit "Enter," before "Accepting"
> the split, Money discards your splits. Or at least it does in Money
> 2006. I'm not sure about 2003, as it's been a while since I've run
> that.
> > Might this be an
> > incompatibility issue with the bank using 2006?

> No. This has nothing to do with the bank. At least in my case it
> doesn't. This is infomation entered into previously downloaded
> transactions that I later entered split information into. FWIW it's
> been confirmed as a problem by the tech I corresponded with at MS.
> It's been added to the list of things to eventually fix.
> If you'd like to add your request to get this fixed, I posted a link
> elsewhere in this thread.



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Old 07-06-2006, 11:42 AM
Jim Johnson
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:41:03 -0700, Del <Del[at]discussions.microsoft.comwrote:

- quote -

> I wonder if this is my problem - I'm still using 2003, and today I
> discovered that our split data from the last six months or so, all carefully
> entered by me, seems to have permanently disappeared. Might this be an
> incompatibility issue with the bank using 2006?


I went to make a epay a day or so ago and discovered that all the
account information (account number, address, etc.) that I had set up
for several payee's had disappeared and I had to reenter that
information. I had been using those for months now ( almost two years)
and had no problem. What gives?

Jim
  #10  
Old 07-06-2006, 03:43 AM
Harvested
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:41:03 -0700, Del <Del[at]discussions.microsoft.comwrote:

- quote -

> I wonder if this is my problem - I'm still using 2003, and today I
> discovered that our split data from the last six months or so, all carefully
> entered by me, seems to have permanently disappeared.


Chances are that it didn't disappear, but never was saved by Money
when you entered it. If you didn't hit "Enter," before "Accepting"
the split, Money discards your splits. Or at least it does in Money
2006. I'm not sure about 2003, as it's been a while since I've run
that.


- quote -

> Might this be an
> incompatibility issue with the bank using 2006?


No. This has nothing to do with the bank. At least in my case it
doesn't. This is infomation entered into previously downloaded
transactions that I later entered split information into. FWIW it's
been confirmed as a problem by the tech I corresponded with at MS.
It's been added to the list of things to eventually fix.

If you'd like to add your request to get this fixed, I posted a link
elsewhere in this thread.
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Old 07-04-2006, 09:41 PM
Del
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"Harvested" wrote:

- quote -

> I *think* this is new in MSM2006, but am not sure. When entering a split
> transaction, once the split categories and amounts are entered, you click
> "Done" if it all adds up to the total amount of the transaction. No
> problem. If the splits don't add up, you're given popup choices to fix it.
> Fine. So, by opting for "Done," you've told Money you're finished with
> entering the split information and that it's correct.
> This takes you back to the main transaction page, which now has "Accept"
> bolded for action. However, if you press "Accept," you lose all the
> information you've entered under the splits! You must first press the
> unbolded "Enter" and then "Accept."
> While it's not at all difficult to press the extra button, since there is no
> warning pop up about it or bolded text, I often forget and press "Accept."
> I then have to go back and re-enter often very long lists of data.
> Is there some place to set an option to be warned about this? Or someplace
> to set Money to enter this information automatically when pressing "Done" on
> the split field? If not, does anyone know of a cheap flight to Redmond, so
> I can yell at the MS programmers? <grin

I wonder if this is my problem - I'm still using 2003, and today I
discovered that our split data from the last six months or so, all carefully
entered by me, seems to have permanently disappeared. Might this be an
incompatibility issue with the bank using 2006?
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Old 06-30-2006, 05:48 PM
Harvested
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:36:17 GMT, "Taylor" <123[at]456.com> wrote:

- quote -

> "Harvested" <harvested_onusenet[at](nospam)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

> > So, if others are bothered by this - and they should be - please write
> > tech support to get additional notes added to this problem.

> I would love to. Can you post a link so I, and others, can write to fix
> this annoying bug?


Here you go:

http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...9&gprid=321298

The email support button is on the upper left of the page.
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Old 06-30-2006, 03:36 PM
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"Harvested" <harvested_onusenet[at](nospam)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:02:11 GMT, "Taylor" <123[at]456.com> wrote:
> > > There is nothing they can do to help you. They cannot change the

> > programming in the application. The only thing they do is add it to a
> > list
> > of possible changes for the next version. If enough people complain, they
> > may change it.
> > I realize that - have used Money for years and discovered early on

> that bug fixes are generally issued in the next year's program. <grin> I did submit this issue to support in hopes that it might eventually
> get fixed in Money 2008. Too late now for v2007.
> FWIW I did get a response back admitting that this is a problem:
> "... it should have edited bolded instead of accept since you have to
> hit edited first. This is very misleading and I understand were you
> are coming from with wanting this fixed.
> I can make sure a note is made on the issue you are having and we can
> try to have it resolved. Again I apologize for the inconvenience."
> So, if others are bothered by this - and they should be - please write
> tech support to get additional notes added to this problem.


I would love to. Can you post a link so I, and others, can write to fix
this annoying bug?


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Old 06-29-2006, 04:44 PM
Harvested
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:02:11 GMT, "Taylor" <123[at]456.com> wrote:

- quote -

> There is nothing they can do to help you. They cannot change the
> programming in the application. The only thing they do is add it to a list
> of possible changes for the next version. If enough people complain, they
> may change it.


I realize that - have used Money for years and discovered early on
that bug fixes are generally issued in the next year's program. <grin
I did submit this issue to support in hopes that it might eventually
get fixed in Money 2008. Too late now for v2007.

FWIW I did get a response back admitting that this is a problem:

"... it should have edited bolded instead of accept since you have to
hit edited first. This is very misleading and I understand were you
are coming from with wanting this fixed.

I can make sure a note is made on the issue you are having and we can
try to have it resolved. Again I apologize for the inconvenience."

So, if others are bothered by this - and they should be - please write
tech support to get additional notes added to this problem.
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Old 06-29-2006, 02:02 PM
Taylor
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<harvested_onusenet[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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- quote -

> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:27:40 -0400, Art McClinton <art[at]nova.org> wrote:
> > You do not have to accept the response. I have replied to the
> > responses, this escalates the response to some one that speaks the same
> > language you submitted the first question in. I have even assumed that
> > the first question is answered by a computer AI program and that with
> > follow ups you finally get a carbon life form to read the question.

> I did reply to it this morning. Will see what sort of response I get
> next. I've done this in the past with Money support and gone back and
> forth 8 or 9 times. Sometimes they *do* try to troubleshoot things.
> However, the last time I tried various things they suggested for a
> fairly minor problem, I dropped out when the last suggestion was a
> hard drive format and new Windows install.
> > > Concerning your report of the problem, I just checked and found that for

> > the last year I have been the victim of the same problem. I am not
> > pleased to say the least, I have shredded close to 40 items that I
> > faithfully entered into splits that changed from the Bills to the
> > actual. All of them are gone and can not be retrieved.

> This has happened to me often enough now, plus with the reporting, I
> think I may actually remember to hit "Enter" for splits. But, maybe
> not.
> > > One of the major reasons that I stayed with MS Money was the long

> > standing database I had created. Now that is suspect, I have less
> > reason to stay with MS Money. Guess will test the waters this year.

> This almost did it for me earlier this year. I actually bought a copy
> of Quicken. However, I never installed it. Maybe I will now,
> depending on how this plays out with tech support.


There is nothing they can do to help you. They cannot change the
programming in the application. The only thing they do is add it to a list
of possible changes for the next version. If enough people complain, they
may change it.


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Old 06-28-2006, 02:09 AM
harvested_onusenet@sbcglobal.net
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:27:40 -0400, Art McClinton <art[at]nova.orgwrote:

- quote -

> You do not have to accept the response. I have replied to the
> responses, this escalates the response to some one that speaks the same
> language you submitted the first question in. I have even assumed that
> the first question is answered by a computer AI program and that with
> follow ups you finally get a carbon life form to read the question.


I did reply to it this morning. Will see what sort of response I get
next. I've done this in the past with Money support and gone back and
forth 8 or 9 times. Sometimes they *do* try to troubleshoot things.
However, the last time I tried various things they suggested for a
fairly minor problem, I dropped out when the last suggestion was a
hard drive format and new Windows install.

- quote -

> Concerning your report of the problem, I just checked and found that for
> the last year I have been the victim of the same problem. I am not
> pleased to say the least, I have shredded close to 40 items that I
> faithfully entered into splits that changed from the Bills to the
> actual. All of them are gone and can not be retrieved.


This has happened to me often enough now, plus with the reporting, I
think I may actually remember to hit "Enter" for splits. But, maybe
not.

- quote -

> One of the major reasons that I stayed with MS Money was the long
> standing database I had created. Now that is suspect, I have less
> reason to stay with MS Money. Guess will test the waters this year.


This almost did it for me earlier this year. I actually bought a copy
of Quicken. However, I never installed it. Maybe I will now,
depending on how this plays out with tech support.

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Old 06-28-2006, 12:27 AM
Art McClinton
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Default Re: Split Transaction Annoyance

You do not have to accept the response. I have replied to the
responses, this escalates the response to some one that speaks the same
language you submitted the first question in. I have even assumed that
the first question is answered by a computer AI program and that with
follow ups you finally get a carbon life form to read the question.

Concerning your report of the problem, I just checked and found that for
the last year I have been the victim of the same problem. I am not
pleased to say the least, I have shredded close to 40 items that I
faithfully entered into splits that changed from the Bills to the
actual. All of them are gone and can not be retrieved.

One of the major reasons that I stayed with MS Money was the long
standing database I had created. Now that is suspect, I have less
reason to stay with MS Money. Guess will test the waters this year.

harvested_onusenet[at]sbcglobal.net wrote:
- quote -

> Following myself up here...
> I submitted a trouble ticket to MS about this. Predictably I got back
> a nice email telling me how to enter a split transaction. <sigh> Absolutely nothing about what I actually asked.

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Old 06-27-2006, 11:17 PM
harvested_onusenet@sbcglobal.net
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Following myself up here...

I submitted a trouble ticket to MS about this. Predictably I got back
a nice email telling me how to enter a split transaction. <sighAbsolutely nothing about what I actually asked.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:01 PM
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Harvested wrote:
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> If not, does anyone know of a cheap flight to Redmond, so
> I can yell at the MS programmers? <grin

Book a charter flight. It will fill up in no time
 
Old 06-26-2006, 07:27 PM
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"Harvested" <Harvested_onUsenet[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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- quote -

> I *think* this is new in MSM2006, but am not sure. When entering a split
> transaction, once the split categories and amounts are entered, you click
> "Done" if it all adds up to the total amount of the transaction. No
> problem. If the splits don't add up, you're given popup choices to fix it.
> Fine. So, by opting for "Done," you've told Money you're finished with
> entering the split information and that it's correct.
> This takes you back to the main transaction page, which now has "Accept"
> bolded for action. However, if you press "Accept," you lose all the
> information you've entered under the splits! You must first press the
> unbolded "Enter" and then "Accept."
> While it's not at all difficult to press the extra button, since there is
> no warning pop up about it or bolded text, I often forget and press
> "Accept." I then have to go back and re-enter often very long lists of
> data.
> Is there some place to set an option to be warned about this? Or
> someplace to set Money to enter this information automatically when
> pressing "Done" on the split field? If not, does anyone know of a cheap
> flight to Redmond, so I can yell at the MS programmers? <grin

This is highly annoying. It should be easy for them to include the Enter
function with Accept.


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Old 06-25-2006, 08:18 PM
Harvested
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Default Split Transaction Annoyance

I *think* this is new in MSM2006, but am not sure. When entering a split
transaction, once the split categories and amounts are entered, you click
"Done" if it all adds up to the total amount of the transaction. No
problem. If the splits don't add up, you're given popup choices to fix it.
Fine. So, by opting for "Done," you've told Money you're finished with
entering the split information and that it's correct.

This takes you back to the main transaction page, which now has "Accept"
bolded for action. However, if you press "Accept," you lose all the
information you've entered under the splits! You must first press the
unbolded "Enter" and then "Accept."

While it's not at all difficult to press the extra button, since there is no
warning pop up about it or bolded text, I often forget and press "Accept."
I then have to go back and re-enter often very long lists of data.

Is there some place to set an option to be warned about this? Or someplace
to set Money to enter this information automatically when pressing "Done" on
the split field? If not, does anyone know of a cheap flight to Redmond, so
I can yell at the MS programmers? <grin

 

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