It works. Thanks for letting us know. Vanguard fixed something.

Jeff


JohnA wrote:
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For whatever it's worth, Vanguard has started working ok for me again... I
can update to separate accounts simultaneously and it keeps them straight.
Hopefully someone else can confirm this.

-- John

"Jeff M" <jamacq[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, it doesn't prove anything, but I went ahead, started Money, and added
the second account. Then I updated it with no problem. Then I left Money,
reentered and only updated the first account. It worked properly. I left
again and only updated the second account - it worked properly. So the
problem is reduced to the fact that multiple accounts cannot be updated
together at Vanguard or Vanguard just fixed this problem and this shows
nothing.

-- John

"JohnA" <John[at]TheAtas.org-spamguard> wrote in message
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Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the information! I wonder if it's something stupid like once you
connect to Vanguard, Vanguard somehow remembers that there's an existing
session for the first account and has the second session inherit the first
session's login which would make the second login useless. If my theory is
correct, then downloading account 1, leaving Money, coming back in and
downloading account 2 might work... but I haven't tried it. I agree that
the fact Quicken has the same problem means that it's not a Money problem
per se.

-- John

"Jeff M" <jamacq[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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I have (but no not use as my primary financial software) Quicken 2006.
The same problem is showing up there as well which clearly indicates
that the problem is Vanguard. My new theory is that something has
changed in the OFX data format from Vanguard that is confusing these
programs with respect to accounts. Downloading from just one of your
logins works fine. Trying to use two logins creates the confusion in
both programs now.

Jeff

JohnA wrote:
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Hi Cal,

I don't use Passport with Money, these are all user initiated downloads...

-- John

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote:

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OK. I agree with your thinking. Sure seems weird. If you have a
Passport on the file, you might see what happens if you make a copy
of the file, remove the Passport, and try the access.

Hi Cal,

Each login shows only one account in the preferred access view - the one
that is associated with the login. As expected, it is unchangeable. I just
don't see how if Money is logging in with login A, it would receive any
information on account B unless it was really logging in with login B. I
tried the following scenario:

1) Removed both accounts from online services
2) Added the first account - worked just fine.
3) I assigned the second account to a new financial institution.
4) When adding online services to the second account, I said that this was
different than the first institution and typed the appropriate login
information.
5) Money than proceeded to download the first account - something that seems
impossible with the login credentials I gave it.
6) After that it's downhill, the wrong account sits in that financial
institution.

I'm just don't see how this can be a Vanguard problem.

BTW, flipping the accounts around and adding the second one first works as
you expect - the second account that was added first works properly, the
first account that is added in second is confused.

-- John

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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It's not the preferred view causing the problem. Something has gone
wrong (only recently) that causes Money to be unable to keep separate
two different login accounts with Vanguard. I don't know if it's
Vanguard or Money, but something changed recently and it's obviously
affecting everyone that has multiple login accounts at Vanguard.

The only workaround I've found so far is to just do an OFX update on my
main account and for my wife's separate IRAs, I download manually from
the Vanguard website.

Although I earlier stated that I thought it might be a problem with
Vanguard, I agree with the previous poster that this is unlikely since
it would be a corruption of private data across logins and that seems
less likely than a problem with Money's ability to read data.

I tried an experiment today and got very strange results. I disabled
online updates for both of my Vanguard logins. I then enabled my
wife's accounts and all worked fine. I then tried to enable my
accounts and at the point where Money gives you the option to match
accounts it only displayed my wife's accounts (not mine). I then
disabled her accounts and tried to enable my accounts. Again, I was
only given the option to match to her accounts (even though I was
logging in through Money using my login). I ended up having to restore
a backup in order to get back to being able to update my accounts (and
not my wife's).

Jeff

Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
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In microsoft.public.money, JohnA wrote:

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This is where you are trying to associate each Vanguard account with
a particular login, I think. Try logging on to the Vanguard site via
browser. Click Accounts&Activity and then click "preferred account
view".

If your problem is not related to how Vanguard associates each
account, then this would not help.


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I don't see how it can be a problem with Vanguard. I have two separate
accounts with different SSNs and different login credentials. Yet Money
just recently started to confuse them. If Vanguard could not keep two
distinct accounts straight with different login credentials, they might as
well shutdown their online site.

<HMacQuarrie[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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This is likely a problem with Vanguard. I have accessed two separate
Vanguard accounts for many years through all recent versions of Money
with no problem. Until the past couple of weeks. The only workaround
for now is to only access one of the two accounts via ofx direct
download and access the second account by downloading a qif from the
Vanguard website.

The Vanguard website indicates that they are transitioning to a new
secure login procedure, so I wonder if the problem may be associated
with that transition.

Jeff

Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
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In microsoft.public.money, Ralph wrote:

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In Money 2004, enter "two accounts" into the Ask Money box of Help.
Look at the "Set up online services for two accounts with different
passwords at one bank" topic.

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I recently started to have the exact same problem with my two Vanguard
accounts that have separate log-in credentials. Did you ever resolve your
problem?

Ralph

"Jeff M" wrote:

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You don't need to delete the original accounts to get rid of the
duplicates. First disable online updates, then you can delete the
duplicates without affecting the originals.

Then you can re-enable online updates.

Jeff

bustedse-r wrote:
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I have the exact same problem. Money seems to get confused between the
accounts. It ended up creating several duplicate accounts that get
associated with the wrong login. On top of that they could only be
deleted by removing all the original accounts. Very
frustrating...finally just left my wife's accounts off of Money.

L Cramer wrote:
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No, I haven't had any problems downloading transactions from several
Vanguard accounts, although I'm not sure what OFX updates are. I just use
M2004 download procedures. I have it set up so that one account/login will
access all account transactions, though.


"Jeff M" <jamacq[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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Anyone else having trouble updating Vanguard mutual fund accounts in
the past few days. I have two different accounts (with different
logins) that I have long been able to update by having a Vanguard Group
and a Vanguard Group2 that downloaded my accounts and my wife's
accounts separately. In the last few days I've had problems with one
account trying to download the other accounts or updates not going
through.

Curious if anyone else is having similar or related problems.

Jeff