In microsoft.public.money, Bernd wrote:

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In my opinion ....

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Once the numbers are the way they should be, and you want start
fresh and declare an account balanced, you can
mark all entries balanced. Select to show only unreconciled
transactions. Sort by date, and go to the oldest transaction.
Hold down Cntl+Shift+M and let auto-repeat work thru the
transactions until none are left showing. Then balance making the
starting and ending balance match the known balance. Choose the
balance date to be the day after your last transaction. This is
not the normal procedure. It starts you with an amnesty for former
balancing.

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Here is some underlying info:
===================Bonnie Synhorst said=======================
|Balancing can be frustrating. .. My rule of thumb is to avoid
|changing the starting statement balance that it asks for. If you
|do this, it will try to make an adjustment that you may not have
|needed to make (if you were balancing months out of order, for
|instance). I recommend balancing month by month starting from the
|earliest date after you are sure that nothing is marked with an R.
|
|Just remember, the opening balance it asks for is a calculation of
|the opening account balance plus or minus any reconciled
|transactions.
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Sorry for asking, but what does IMO mean?
What would this procedure be?
How do I get to the numbers that Money is using internally to calculate
the registry? I just want to see what is going on!
I will go through everything again, but I am pretty sure that
everything is in order. I always compare the sum per day to the one in
the statement.
Ah, maybe it is the starting ballance. I always used the one in the
statement for that month, but it seems that if I skipped a couple of
months' statements I should probably use the one that is suggested by
Money? To me this is no clearly defined, I always thought that the
starting ballance is the one on my bankstatement for the month I am
looking at.
All this gets more and more confusing...

B

In microsoft.public.money, Bernd wrote:

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Had you changed that one in the other account to a transfer when you
first processed it, then the other download should have matched the
second. However if it did not match automatically, then you would
want to Change the match.

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Hmmm. if the balance column numbers were right, but you just wanted
to declare the account balance, then there is a procedure to do
that. But first you need to get the numbers right IMO.
One thing to ask yourself is the starting balance you are offered in
the balancing process the same as what the starting balance on your
paper statement is? If not, look for extra or missing transactions
that precede the time of the previous balance. Perhaps you still
have not deleted or voided that now-extra transaction. An advantage
to void is that you can un-void if you want the transaction back.


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When both accounts have been updated through the internet, but not
accepted yet, and I change one transaction to a transfer, then the
other account shows this transfer plus the one downloaded from the net.
What should I do in that case? Delete the downloaded one?

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Yes, and I can't balance my account. Can you give me some tips on how
to solve this?

I tried exporting it as a qif, but I cant find nothing that would
resemble this effect, nor anything else unusual.


Thanks for the kind help.

Bernd

In microsoft.public.money, Bernd wrote:

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The common ways are if you download a payment that should be a
transfer is to change that transaction to a transfertherAccount
before accepting. Then downloading into the other account should
match the then-existing transfer.



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I think you are saying that each transaction looks correct, but the
account register balance column numbers differs from what they
should be.


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sorry, I meant transfer.
I deleted the deposit and added a transfer. This usually happens when
the accounts are updated through the internet. Transfers (with Chase)
don't show as transfers but rather as withdrawls and deposits. I can
ballance the account like that, but I would rather have them stored as
transfers. At some point I was so frustrated that I removed a deposit.
But the account register still remembered it.... Now everything looks
great in the account register all numbers are correct (all the ones I
can see) but there is still a great difference to the register. I
checked the numbers already three times... I am slowly getting
frustrated...

And I am running MSmoney 2006.

In microsoft.public.money, Bernd wrote:

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"change a deposit to a transaction"? A deposit is a type of
transaction. Suppose you replaced the deposit with a different
transaction, and both were dated before you did your last balance. I
suspect you could just mark the replacement transaction as
Reconciled. Ctrl+Shift+M is one way to do that.

Then when you balance next, do not attempt to change the opening
balance that Money presents.

If that does not do it, there is a technique for getting caught up
that you could use.

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It is often significant to know what version of Money you are using,
even tho it might not matter in this instance.

backup is not working because I made of these changes some time ago and
a lot has happened since then...

Have you tried a restore from the last back-up before you made the change?

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


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"Bernd" <bernd.jagla[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148647597.395503.196220[at]38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Hi there,

because I couldn't change a deposit to a transaction, I deleted it and
created a new one. Of course the deposit was already reconciled! Now I
have problems balancing my account. Somehow Money still thinks that the
amount I deleted is still there.
Does anyone know how I can fix this problem?
I don't know what other information you might need to solve this
problem, but I would be very happy to try my best to get it for you.

Thanks a lot

Bernd