Hi again,

I am terribly sorry for the lenghy delay in getting back to you on this,
very busy lately.
To field the question you have about the change to MSN Money Plus!.
The part in red text at the top of the my accounts page when you sign into
MSN Money (moneycentral.msn.com) is refering still to the items you will
loose when the MSN Money Plus features are removed. If you want some more
information on the changes that will take place check out this link
http://help.msn.com/(ZmlsdGVyPURIX0Z...sulpyenom&fs=1


"Microsoft" <noreply[at]email.com> wrote in message
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That cleared things up a lot for me -- thanks!

Dumb question... The part about Microsoft Money users. The website
mentions this change:

If you are a Microsoft Money user: All of your information will continue to
be available on your local computer. On this website, you will still be able
to view your accounts and pay bills through MSN Bill Pay. You will no longer
be able to edit your account data or view your spending and budget data.

Do you know what is meant by the last sentence? i.e., now, if I want to
change an account name I have to do it at the web site. If I make the
change in Money, and sync, it reverts to whatever is at the web site -- if I
change it there, the next sync it shows up the way I want it to in Money.
If the sync has been changed to work when initiated on my local file, it
doesn't matter -- if not, I won't be able to change the name of an account.
Is an account name included in 'you will no longer be able to edit your
account data' ?

Thanks again for the info.
"Dave J." <v_8djewe[at]msn.com> wrote in message
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Hi All,

I hope this clears up any questions about the different programs and the
website.


Microsoft Money
These items are three seperate entities. Microsoft Money is a locally
installed program on you computer which creates and stores your personal
finance information in a "Money File" which is similar to a database. This
Program also has the ability to syncronize some of the data contained in
this file with MSN Money. Once this Sync is enabled the sync feature will
ensure that any new data in Microsoft Money is sent to MSN Money and any new
data on MSN Money is added to Microsoft Money.

MSN Money Plus!
This is one of the components of the MSN 9 Internet Software the "MSN
Butterfly". Since this software requires an MSN Subscription the decision
was made way back when to modify the look to suit the browser and add in
some extra features that were available in Microsoft Money. This used to be
available to MSN Premium subscribers. Since things have changed drastically
over the last few years this is not the case any longer. MSN Money Plus! is
now available to all MSN Subscribers.
This software also creates a local file data file. This program
automatically syncronizes with MSN Money as this program is totally web
oriented and sync cannot be turned off.

MSN Money(https://moneycentral.msn.com)
This is a website! That you can interact with to store and gather udpates
from you bank. So you can add accounts, remove accounts, update accounts,
use the Investment toolbox to view add modify yor investments. At the center
of all of this is this web site. Previously someone mentioned Yodlee and
Cashedge. Without the use of this website and the sync feature account
updates from these providers would not be possible.

Syncronization
This process attempts to ensure that the same data is held in all locations.
If it is in the money file then it is synced to the website. if it is in the
MSN browser then it is synced to the website. If it is on the website it
will sync or bring in any new information from there into either Microsoft
Money or MSN Money Plus. If you are using all 3 then the sync feature will
send this information from both programs to the web and will pull in any new
information.



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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Yes.
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I don't think there is a big deal there.

So MSN Money doesn't let me create an account without specifying an FI
that's in their list--mine isn't? (Did MSN Money Plus?)

Also, what's it mean to say that MSN Money eliminates the feature from MSN
Money Plus that provides "Ability to access data offline"? Isn't this the
reverse side of the application's Sync with the Web feature? If they
eliminate that feature, does that mean that they break Money Sync with the
Web for people coming at this from Money the application rather than Money
the web service? If somebody just bought M06, thought "gee, I'll try Sync
with the Web," and did it, were they an MSN Money Plus user or an MSN Money
user?

CashEdge is another Yodlee-style screen scraper?

I guess I'm trying to infer some greater meaning from these tea leaves...

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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As I understand it, MSN Money and Money Plus give the same view of
your account info (which IS similar to the Essentials view in Money
2005/6).

So, a Money Plus user is not going to lose anything from the My
Accounts area. In fact they'll gain the ability to add accounts
that Yodlee doesn't, since MSN Money also supports accounts
accessed via CashEdge in addition to those accessed via Yodlee
(as does Money 2006).

I know they both let you access the Portfolio Manager does let you
create investment accounts and enter Buys, Sells, etc without
accessing your actual broker accounts.

Anybody who knows please correct me if I'm wrong:

MSN Money is to MSN Money Plus as M05/6 Essential Register is to Advanced
Register; Essential Register is just unified view via Yodlee of stuff
already on the web; it's not a freeform place for you to enter your stuff.

Cal's MSN Money network status link revealed another tidbit:
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Change of service - discontinuing MSN Money Plus
An important change is coming to the MSN Money service. MSN Money Plus will
be replaced by the MSN Money service, starting early in July. After the
transition, much of the account information you currently have stored by MSN
Money Plus will be available through the MSN Money service.

Why is MSN making this change?
A large majority of MSN Money Plus subscribers do not use the features that
are exclusive to MSN Money Plus. Most of the features and functionality of
MSN Money Plus are currently available on the MSN Money website.
Additionally, MSN Money supports more financial institutions than MSN Money
Plus.

How will this affect me?
The online MSN Money service offers most of the familiar features in MSN
Money Plus, such as banking, investing, and news. However, the following
features will not be available after the transition to MSN Money:

Spending by category
Spending by payee chart
Favorite category thermometers
Setup and tracking of monthly income and expenses
Budget vs. spending reports
Personal tax information
W-4 tax withholding estimator
Ability to access data offline
If you use these features, you must copy this data to another program or
service before June 28th, 2006, to avoid losing this data. After the
transition is complete, you will be able to access your account information
through the MSN Money service.

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I'm not at all familiar with MSN Money or MSN Money Plus or why both exist
or how both are offered, but this is an interesting tidbit.

- They're dumbing down the web offering, removing many features that are
similar to those in standalone Money.
- They're doing it because "A large majority of MSN Money Plus subscribers
do not use the features that are exclusive to MSN Money Plus"
- They're doing it at the end of June.

I wonder if there is any relationship between this and M07/Mxxxx?