In microsoft.public.money, Brian Cleaver wrote:

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Note the status note at
http://moneycentral.msn.com/common/networkstatus.asp

Some funds that were "stuck" are now working for me. Let's hope
yours are too.



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This is a very important issue for me and I have elected to use Quicken as my
financial software. I have been very patient with Msoft to reslove this issue
for the past 6 months. Now I have stoped useing Money all together. There are
other issues as well. They simply seem more interested at upgradeing me to
newer versions than solve simple problems on older versions. Quicken has its
problems as well, but data reliability, timeliness is not one of them.
Fortunately for me, I have been running both Money and Quicken together for
some time.

"ga" wrote:

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"Some One" wrote in message
news:4445cb36$0$14457$6d36acad[at]titian.nntpserver.com wrote:
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I've read that it's not MSN - its Yodlee - a company that MS pays to
provide the update service.
Even though the "Today's change" column doesn't work, your stock/fund
value often does change onscreen as well as the grand total. So if MSFT
was $26 a share yesterday and today you manually update to be $27, if
you have 100 shares you're total does change from $2600 to $2700 but the
"daily change" will show as ZERO (since it wasn't updated by their
server - Cal, THAT's what I " don't get"). When the Money updates don't
work at all , I get them at finance.yahoo.com manually. Only time that
they are " both bad " is when a fund goes ex-div ( or fund house has
problem) These past few days, I've just updated manually.

Also note - for "regular updaters" - before you update your mutual fund
online, sort them by "% change" - now update. Most often even when the
server is hosed it will update the "$ change" and "% change" but not "do
the math" so it doesn't "finalize the price". You can see that by now
sorting again by " % change" - they'll rearrange. Example when updating
IS working OK...if a fund was $10 two days ago and yesterday it was $11,
prior to updating today you'd see "$change = $1", and "% change" = 10%.
Now update and if the 2 columns change, the server HAS the quotes but
isn't "doing the math". If you want to, you can " do the math" If that
same fund fund was $11 and now it's shows a change of " -0.25 ", then
the price is 10.75. See - that column WAS $1 , now it's -0.25 where did
that come from - the server - but the application on the server that "
does the math" is hosed.

BTW , my opinion is that - what's not working is the part where the
server " Fetches our info from our PC". I don't know how the math gets
done but if it is NOT done locally, doesn't it only make sense that it's
done remotely ? So this remote server needs to know exactly how much
each of us has invested - and where . Perhaps a network issue preventing
them fetching our info. I'm open to other opinions but that's the only
way that I can see it working as it does. It must retrieve " how many
shares of x" times " price of x" and then send us the results. Why must
that info be transmitted anywhere ?? - let my PC do the math. (Cal,
THAT's the part that concerns me - its not 2006 - it's "Orwell's 1984")
Someone from the Money group should invite someone from the Excel group
over for a beer ( or maybe a Jolt Cola) and have him explain to them how
to multiply : x times y = z , (take the difference between yesterday and
today's price) and post those results in the " change" column.

Bobb

ga wrote:

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I have the same problem, too. I believe Money gets the quotes
from MSN Money site. If you check your fund's price there, you
can see the price as well as a dimmed line such as:

Last NAV update 04/17/06 06:01 PM ET

Money take this as the date for the price.

One thing my theory could not explain is that once the date along
with the quote is right, Money seems to be able to get the
correct price for those missing days. Does MSN Money provide
historical prices, as Yahoo! does?

Sadly, the "Feedback" link at the bottom of the page does not
give the user a chance to write anything. It merely pop up a
window with a few voting check box to rate the site.

So check the quote online first. If that is still screwed up,
don't hope too much for Money getting the stuff right.

SomeOne
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In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:

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I can think of one instance where doing it this way makes sense. If
there is a dividend, it is customary to adjust the price change
accordingly. Thus if a stock closed yesterday at $20.00 and closed
today at $20.00 but it went ex-dividend today for $0.25, it would be
quoted as up by $0.25. That's the convention. There could be some
other considerations, but that one comes to mind.



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Since this is an issue again ...

Cal,
First of all, thanks for all the help you provide us ( I hope you guys
get paid/reimbursed somehow)
Then - can you tell me why we have to be online to have the " Today's
change " column get updated.
If I manually update all of my stocks/funds daily ( manually), why can't
Money do the math - this is not rocket science. If I own 100 shares of
MSFT stock and yesterday it was 26.00 and today it is 27.00 , why can't
MY PC populate that field to display $100 ( 100 shares x $1 gain per
share) ? Why do I have to go online to use that column ?

Thanks,
Bobb

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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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The fact that this happens over and over again is really annoying. I don't
want to hate Microsoft. Really, I don't. But they are not helping me.



"ga" <gashfordjr[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, ga wrote:

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I expect they are becoming aware. I would not expect resolution
until tomorrow however.

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It would depend on what you call "one source". I expect they get
each number from the same data feed source, but I expect they come
in as separate numbers-- and therefore could be out of sync with
each other.


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Cal,

Do you know if Microsoft is aware of the problem? If not, is there anyway
to notify them without having to pay.

One thing I don't understand is how the net gain/loss in the "Best and Worst
Performers" view can be correct but the Market Price is not updated.
Obviously Money is connecting somewhere to get the net gain/loss. Do you
know if Money uses one source for the net gain/loss and another source for
the Market Price. If so, that seems like a weird method of updating.
Thanks for your help.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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Updates of my mutual funds also stopped after 4/13/06. Stocks and ETFs are
still updating OK. My mutual funds are Canadian.

"ga" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, ga wrote:

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I see some funds updating 4/18/2006, and some not since 4/13/2006.


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The last quotes that I have able to download are 4/13/2006. None of the
quotes for my mutual funds which are in three different mnf files are
downloading. The quotes for DJI, NASDAQ, and S&P are downloading. I know
Microsoft Money periodically has this problem. Is anyone else having the
problem or is it just me? I don't want to contact Microsoft because it cost
me money and the problem may be on their end.

And another thing : for those that DO want to update and see "Today's
Change" after the quote server has issues... the next day BEFORE
starting Money, change the date on your PC back a day. Open Money -
update prices and ( if the server has been fixed) , you'll see that the
"Today's change" column works ( since the date of the updated price DOES
( for now) equal today's date). When done - exit and change date back.

Bobb



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