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Old 04-14-2006, 10:55 AM
Bob Peel, MVP
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That is almost certainly the UK version. The latest UK Version is M2005.
They have not released M2006 in the UK.

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For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


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"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My money version is M98 6.0 I'm not sure if i have the UK version. The
> box
> and cd simply say M98 - however underneath the bar code on the box i have
> Origion: Ireland.
> "Dick Watson" wrote:
> > The short date format is the least of your problems. Money of a given
> > localization will not open a data file created with a version for another
> > localization. Period. Was the M04/M06 upgrade attempt from you M98 files
> > an
> > attempt to cross localizations? If so, consider it a dead end.
> > > "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:8DB64267-98EE-4E6D-85EC-DA54AD194A44[at]microsoft.com...
> > > Hi Dick, I read the article and changed the short date format to what
> > > it
> > > was
> > > before but still no luck. M04 is saying it cant find the file or its
> > > read
> > > only, however it is still making backups with .MN6 extension.
> > >


  #21  
Old 04-14-2006, 06:48 AM
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My money version is M98 6.0 I'm not sure if i have the UK version. The box
and cd simply say M98 - however underneath the bar code on the box i have
Origion: Ireland.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> The short date format is the least of your problems. Money of a given
> localization will not open a data file created with a version for another
> localization. Period. Was the M04/M06 upgrade attempt from you M98 files an
> attempt to cross localizations? If so, consider it a dead end.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8DB64267-98EE-4E6D-85EC-DA54AD194A44[at]microsoft.com...
> > Hi Dick, I read the article and changed the short date format to what it
> > was
> > before but still no luck. M04 is saying it cant find the file or its read
> > only, however it is still making backups with .MN6 extension.

  #20  
Old 04-14-2006, 06:37 AM
Ron
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Hi Bob - i cant find the articles you are refering too.

"Bob Peel, MVP" wrote:

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> Ron, Money is not backwards compatible. So anything created by version N+1
> cannot be read by version N. Or in this case a M04 file cannot be read by
> M98.
> Also Money is heavily regionalised and a file created by a UK version of
> Money cannot be read by a US version and vice-versa.
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For UK tips & fixes see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BE8F82AB-3817-4F1E-A7C0-B7CAB94F9195[at]microsoft.com...
> > Just a little update. I noticed that this time M04 created backup files
> > with
> > extension .mbf I uninstalled M04 and installed M98 and tried to open
> > this
> > backup file. Still no luck. The program starts to open the file - progress
> > bar gets halfway up (where the progress bar says compacting file) and then
> > hangs.

  #19  
Old 04-13-2006, 12:01 PM
Dick Watson
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The short date format is the least of your problems. Money of a given
localization will not open a data file created with a version for another
localization. Period. Was the M04/M06 upgrade attempt from you M98 files an
attempt to cross localizations? If so, consider it a dead end.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8DB64267-98EE-4E6D-85EC-DA54AD194A44[at]microsoft.com...
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> Hi Dick, I read the article and changed the short date format to what it
> was
> before but still no luck. M04 is saying it cant find the file or its read
> only, however it is still making backups with .MN6 extension.



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Old 04-13-2006, 09:46 AM
Bob Peel, MVP
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Ron, Money is not backwards compatible. So anything created by version N+1
cannot be read by version N. Or in this case a M04 file cannot be read by
M98.

Also Money is heavily regionalised and a file created by a UK version of
Money cannot be read by a US version and vice-versa.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BE8F82AB-3817-4F1E-A7C0-B7CAB94F9195[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Just a little update. I noticed that this time M04 created backup files
> with
> extension .mbf I uninstalled M04 and installed M98 and tried to open
> this
> backup file. Still no luck. The program starts to open the file - progress
> bar gets halfway up (where the progress bar says compacting file) and then
> hangs.



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Old 04-13-2006, 08:09 AM
Ron
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Default Re: Cant open my money98 file

Just a little update. I noticed that this time M04 created backup files with
extension .mbf I uninstalled M04 and installed M98 and tried to open this
backup file. Still no luck. The program starts to open the file - progress
bar gets halfway up (where the progress bar says compacting file) and then
hangs.
  #16  
Old 04-13-2006, 07:57 AM
Bob Peel, MVP
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I have had a look back in my archives and Money98 backup files were
definitely .mbf.

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Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.


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"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OzNgkaYXGHA.196[at]TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
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> Hmmmm. I don't remember that. But I can't say as I remember the opposite,
> either. I do remember that M98 expanded file size exponentially AND didn't
> initially support spanning a backup of these large files to floppy. That
> was
> a pretty clueless combination.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsDA37C6A-E4F7-4965-955D-14D1D8AE093C[at]microsoft.com...
> > even the backups created by money98 [are .MNY extension]



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Old 04-13-2006, 07:37 AM
Ron
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Hi Dick, I read the article and changed the short date format to what it was
before but still no luck. M04 is saying it cant find the file or its read
only, however it is still making backups with .MN6 extension.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> That's very interesting. See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=1 and see if it
> makes any sense in the context of your case.
> The .MN6 is consistent with the file to be upgraded being recognized as a
> Money98 file.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1F0E95D-2806-4FF5-85A9-00E21AFCE9AA[at]microsoft.com...
> > > I downloaded M04 but it could not open my file - it gave the message

> "Money
> > > cannot open this file becasue it was created with an incompatible

> version"
> > > > > > I tried again - it gave the same message but this time i have a copy of my

> > file with the extension .MN6

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Old 04-12-2006, 07:25 PM
Dick Watson
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That's very interesting. See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=1 and see if it
makes any sense in the context of your case.

The .MN6 is consistent with the file to be upgraded being recognized as a
Money98 file.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1F0E95D-2806-4FF5-85A9-00E21AFCE9AA[at]microsoft.com...
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> > I downloaded M04 but it could not open my file - it gave the message
"Money
> > cannot open this file becasue it was created with an incompatible

version"
> > > I tried again - it gave the same message but this time i have a copy of my

> file with the extension .MN6



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Old 04-12-2006, 06:08 PM
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"Ron" wrote:

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> "Dick Watson" wrote:
> > Did you research the M04 intermediate upgrade? Beyond that, I'm tapped out.
> > > "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:51CA41D7-AC00-4C09-AAF1-2383A35899E2[at]microsoft.com...
> > > Any other idea's of what i can do? Btw my m98 version is 6.0

> I downloaded M04 but it could not open my file - it gave the message "Money
> cannot open this file becasue it was created with an incompatible version"

I tried again - it gave the same message but this time i have a copy of my
file with the extension .MN6
> >
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Old 04-12-2006, 05:55 PM
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"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> Did you research the M04 intermediate upgrade? Beyond that, I'm tapped out.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:51CA41D7-AC00-4C09-AAF1-2383A35899E2[at]microsoft.com...
> > Any other idea's of what i can do? Btw my m98 version is 6.0


I downloaded M04 but it could not open my file - it gave the message "Money
cannot open this file becasue it was created with an incompatible version"
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:14 PM
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Did you research the M04 intermediate upgrade? Beyond that, I'm tapped out.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Any other idea's of what i can do? Btw my m98 version is 6.0


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Old 04-12-2006, 12:13 PM
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In microsoft.public.money, Ron wrote:

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> Any other idea's of what i can do? Btw my m98 version is 6.0

Tell us what happened when you tried Dick's suggestion of the
"intermediate version upgrade attempt".


- quote -

> "Dick Watson" wrote:
> > Hmmmm. I don't remember that. But I can't say as I remember the opposite,
> > either. I do remember that M98 expanded file size exponentially AND didn't
> > initially support spanning a backup of these large files to floppy. That was
> > a pretty clueless combination.
> > > "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > newsDA37C6A-E4F7-4965-955D-14D1D8AE093C[at]microsoft.com...
> > > even the backups created by money98 [are .MNY extension]
> > >
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:16 AM
Ron
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Any other idea's of what i can do? Btw my m98 version is 6.0

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> Hmmmm. I don't remember that. But I can't say as I remember the opposite,
> either. I do remember that M98 expanded file size exponentially AND didn't
> initially support spanning a backup of these large files to floppy. That was
> a pretty clueless combination.
> "Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsDA37C6A-E4F7-4965-955D-14D1D8AE093C[at]microsoft.com...
> > even the backups created by money98 [are .MNY extension]

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Old 04-11-2006, 04:40 PM
Dick Watson
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Hmmmm. I don't remember that. But I can't say as I remember the opposite,
either. I do remember that M98 expanded file size exponentially AND didn't
initially support spanning a backup of these large files to floppy. That was
a pretty clueless combination.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
newsDA37C6A-E4F7-4965-955D-14D1D8AE093C[at]microsoft.com...
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> even the backups created by money98 [are .MNY extension]


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Old 04-11-2006, 12:35 PM
Ron
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Dear Dick, once again thanks for your patience. All of my files have the .MNY
extension - even the backups created by money98 and all of them are NOT read
only files.


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Old 04-11-2006, 12:16 PM
Dick Watson
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I'm not sure I have any ideas, but let's clarify something for others
reading who might: do you have both a .MNY and a .MBF version fo the same
data file? Did Money 2006 report the same "money cannot locate xxx.mny or
cannot open it, possibly because it is a read only file or you do not have
permission to change it or your disk drive is write protected." when trying
to open/restore both the .MNY and .MBF format files?

If these went through a CD-ROM, make sure that both files copied back to the
hard disk are set to be NOT read only in their file properties. Do not try
to open the file/restore from the backup file directly from the CD-ROM. The
former definitely won't work. I'm less sure about the latter, but would
avoid it to be sure.

I'm also wondering about an intermediate version upgrade attempt--where you
go through the M04 trial version. See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=180.

I'm also wondering about lots of voodoo issues like Safe Mode operation to
do this, doing this as Administrator, etc. Anybody else with more experience
in these areas want to dive in here?

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Dick - i downloaded and installed M06 but it could not open or restore
> the
> money file i have on computer. Lvl 1 and 2 restores both gave me message
> "no
> broken records in origional file".
> When i tried opening the backup i have on cdrom and a copy of the backup i
> placed in money folder both gave me the message "money cannot locate
> xxx.mny
> or cannot open it, possibly because it is a read only file or you do not
> have
> permission to change it or your disk drive is write protected."
> This is not the case.
> Thanks once again for your patience and awaiting your reply.



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Old 04-11-2006, 08:04 AM
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Hi Dick - i downloaded and installed M06 but it could not open or restore the
money file i have on computer. Lvl 1 and 2 restores both gave me message "no
broken records in origional file".
When i tried opening the backup i have on cdrom and a copy of the backup i
placed in money folder both gave me the message "money cannot locate xxx.mny
or cannot open it, possibly because it is a read only file or you do not have
permission to change it or your disk drive is write protected."
This is not the case.

Thanks once again for your patience and awaiting your reply.


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Old 04-11-2006, 01:05 AM
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So, you used a restore Money Backup file rather than just copying your Money
data file to, say, a CD and then copying it back. Now's probably not the
best of times to tell you this, but Money can make backups it can't deal
with from data files it deals with just fine. Why it would do this is
unknown, but the fact that it does has been reported repeatedly. This is why
any backup strategy isn't until it's been tested. Also this is why many of
us recommend using a copy of the actual Money file preferentially to
anything with the backup file in cases like this. Agreed, it shouldn't have
to be this way. But it is.

As to never having downloaded/installed the fix, do not be so sure. If you
**ever** did an Internet Update, only one click would have separated you
from installing the fix that Money automagically downloaded. Over eight
years it seems entirely possible you could have forgotten such a click. Many
people forget what version of Money they were actually using prior to the
reinstallation.

My recommendation: Download and install the trial version of M06. See if it
can restore/upgrade your backup file. If it doesn't work, you're not out
much besides having to uninstall it and reinstall your obsolete version,
should you choose to do that. If it does work, check the name of the
reversion file that the version format upgrade leaves behind. Report the
extension here. It will be something like .MN8, .MN9, .M10 or similar.

"Ron" <Ron[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your quick reply Answers to questions are as follows.
> 1) how did you migrate the data
> > file? (Total reinstallation implies that the original file got wiped. If
> > the
> > file worked immediately prior to reinstallation and you preserved the
> > integrity of the file during the process, why would it now be "corrupt"
> > when
> > before it was "working"?

> I made a backup which i saved to cdrom before i reinstalled money. I then
> trasfered this file back to my docucments and told m98 to restore it under
> a
> different name in money folder. Restore didnt succede but when i looked in
> money folder there was a money file with name i specified and same size
> (aprox 11mb) It is this file that is failing to open.
> 2) M98 had one or more mega service fixes. I'm not
> > sure these are still available for Money to download, 8 years later.
> > Failure
> > to get these could be a source of your issue as well.

> Unfortunatly i have never downloaded or installed these I hope it wont
> be a big problem.



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Old 04-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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"Cal Learner" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Ron wrote:
> > Hi, i wonder if anyone can help. I just did a total reinstal of my computer
> > and instaled money98 which is the programme i use.

> Which OS?



Windows XP
 

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