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| A solution would be to split, let's call it a Jumbo file into 2 files: A highly downsized file with say a couple of years data; and An historical file containing as large a history as one feels compelled to save. The jumbo is updated say monthly and the downsized updated daily or weekly. Maybe quarterly would suffice for the jumbo file. Easy to do by a copy, paste to another folder and a rename and copy back. You have probably thought of this approach but maybe others have not. You have a lot more patience than I. arthur == On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:04:03 -0600, "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: - quote - > Size is clearly a component. A new M06 file is pretty zippy on my laptop. My > file is 65.7MB and just entered its 14th year of data entry. It runs like a > snail on downers. |
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| Size is clearly a component. A new M06 file is pretty zippy on my laptop. My file is 65.7MB and just entered its 14th year of data entry. It runs like a snail on downers. "arthur" <trash.all.spam[at]xoxy.net> wrote in message news:aos0325iohpc4jqnq99elhs76n4db9ocng[at]4ax.com... - quote - > I do not know the internals of the application but it seems to me that > performance is size related. |
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| Well my M06 experience is not your experience so what I wrote is from my personal measurements. My data is 3 yrs old. I have 3 files so I run Mny 3 times / day to update accounts automagically and yes some updates are total pigs. My files are 6, 7, and 8meg. Starting a file pegs the cpu for up to 10 seconds but the home screen is shown in much less time. I have trimmed every piece of fat I can from the application. I do not use or need personal financial software much less budgets and things of that sort. I do not know the internals of the application but it seems to me that performance is size related. arthur == On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:20:57 -0600, "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: - quote - > My M04 pegs the 2.2 GHz P4 for long stretches. My M06 trial pegs my 850 MHz > PIII laptop for upwards of half an hour just to open and close the app. HD > speed, fragmented or otherwise, has next to nothing to do with Money > performance. Money runs CPU bound almost exclusively. Over 80% CPU usage > isn't necessarily bad--indeed, it's the height of efficiency. It means you > are using the CPU to its most efficient. The problem is that Money can go on > like this for hours whilst ignoring the user. That's what's bad. It's not > the over 80% CPU usage. That's got nothing to do with 99% of what you wrote > here. |
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| My M04 pegs the 2.2 GHz P4 for long stretches. My M06 trial pegs my 850 MHz PIII laptop for upwards of half an hour just to open and close the app. HD speed, fragmented or otherwise, has next to nothing to do with Money performance. Money runs CPU bound almost exclusively. Over 80% CPU usage isn't necessarily bad--indeed, it's the height of efficiency. It means you are using the CPU to its most efficient. The problem is that Money can go on like this for hours whilst ignoring the user. That's what's bad. It's not the over 80% CPU usage. That's got nothing to do with 99% of what you wrote here. "arthur" <trash.all.spam[at]xoxy.net> wrote in message news:d8o032tcta17j7pre8qekv5nkjo5d76sk8[at]4ax.com... - quote - > You don't mention operating system but if you are running say 2K or > later it should have some performance tool that will show you your CPU > and memory usage. Anything over 80% sustained will / is hurting. > The slowest device is the hdd ignoring little used things like the fdd > and cd. Next slowest is the internet connection which depends on > connection speed and site response. The MS Money update site is a > pig. Matter or fact, MS Money is a total hog when it comes to its use > of the internet so avoid. > My 2mhz celeron peaks 50% for fractions of a second accessing an > account just to give you some idea. Files / accounts are 3 years old. > Try to get a handle on where your bottleneck is coming from as all we > can do is guess at possible problems. A large file scattered all over > the hdd is not going to win speed awards. Also, laptops are > considerably slower than a modest desktop. |
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| You don't mention operating system but if you are running say 2K or later it should have some performance tool that will show you your CPU and memory usage. Anything over 80% sustained will / is hurting. The slowest device is the hdd ignoring little used things like the fdd and cd. Next slowest is the internet connection which depends on connection speed and site response. The MS Money update site is a pig. Matter or fact, MS Money is a total hog when it comes to its use of the internet so avoid. My 2mhz celeron peaks 50% for fractions of a second accessing an account just to give you some idea. Files / accounts are 3 years old. Try to get a handle on where your bottleneck is coming from as all we can do is guess at possible problems. A large file scattered all over the hdd is not going to win speed awards. Also, laptops are considerably slower than a modest desktop. arthur == On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 07:28:02 -0700, Mike <Mike[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: - quote - > My HD is about 85%. I will try to clean it up a bit. It is only 10% defrag, > and not recommended, but I will kick it off. I am using www with it > connected. I don't appear to be memory bound, but I will keep an eye on it. > Thanks, > Mike |
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| Many of us have found that the .mny file size has little or nothing to do with Money performance. See http://umpmfaq.info/faq.html#Q29 -- Regards Bob Peel, Microsoft MVP - Money For UK tips & fixes see http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny. I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for. "Mike" <Mike[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:62A1A1BE-B67D-40DD-83DC-C8F1B3514F3F[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I guess I thought the archive would work like a "purge". How do I "purge" > previous years data and make the file smaller? > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: > > In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: > > > > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but > > > that > > > doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. > > > My > > > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? > > > The archive is a copy of your Money file as it existed before you > > archived. I suggest making a copy of that file and continue using > > it, or to File-> Restore a backup from before you archived. > > > How long is "forever", and what program are you using? > |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: - quote - > I guess I thought the archive would work like a "purge".
Good. That is what it does: it purges out older non-investmenttransactions. However the space savings are small, and the size changes may be overwhelmed by other effects. The file will periodically free up space automatically when it sees that it has grown by some amount. You don't have control on that. You might trigger that with File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair although that can make an initial increase in size before the compaction. - quote - > How do I "purge"
You can slow the file growth by not downloading quotes or for> previous years data and make the file smaller? downloading quotes for fewer securities. One way to actually make the file a lot smaller would be to do a QIF export and import into a new file. You keep transactions (which take little space) and shed other information. That has significant downside, so I won't go into the implementation details for now. Storage is getting larger and cheaper. You should be using USB flash drives instead of floppies for backup. Hard drives are cheap. While this will not seem like a constructive response, it is pretty much the only way to deal with it. Dick's link has some ways to speed things up some without getting a new computer. Cutting down on scheduled bills and getting rid of unneeded amortized debt may help. Make copies of your file under different names to test things out. - quote - > "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: > > In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: > > > > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that > > > doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. My > > > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? > > > The archive is a copy of your Money file as it existed before you > > archived. I suggest making a copy of that file and continue using > > it, or to File-> Restore a backup from before you archived. > > > How long is "forever", and what program are you using? > |
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| My HD is about 85%. I will try to clean it up a bit. It is only 10% defrag, and not recommended, but I will kick it off. I am using www with it connected. I don't appear to be memory bound, but I will keep an eye on it. Thanks, Mike "arthur" wrote: - quote - > You might have a very slow or full hdd. It might be badly > defragmented. Have you defragmented? What percentage full is the > hdd? Are you using money interactively www connected? Watch the hdd > led... is it constantly blinking? If the led is dead, do you hear the > hdd constantly clicking? Perhaps you are memory bound and the hdd is > constantly paging memory to and from the hdd. That is a killer. > arthur > == > On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:01:02 -0800, Mike > <Mike[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that > |
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| I guess I thought the archive would work like a "purge". How do I "purge" previous years data and make the file smaller? "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: > > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that > > doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. My > > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? > The archive is a copy of your Money file as it existed before you > archived. I suggest making a copy of that file and continue using > it, or to File-> Restore a backup from before you archived. > How long is "forever", and what program are you using? |
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| From the time I launch Money, to the time I can actually navigate within it, is almost 60 seconds. I am using Money 2004. I turned off all the feedback features and that seemed to really help. Thanks. "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: > > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that > > doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. My > > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? > The archive is a copy of your Money file as it existed before you > archived. I suggest making a copy of that file and continue using > it, or to File-> Restore a backup from before you archived. > How long is "forever", and what program are you using? |
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| You might have a very slow or full hdd. It might be badly defragmented. Have you defragmented? What percentage full is the hdd? Are you using money interactively www connected? Watch the hdd led... is it constantly blinking? If the led is dead, do you hear the hdd constantly clicking? Perhaps you are memory bound and the hdd is constantly paging memory to and from the hdd. That is a killer. arthur == On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 06:01:02 -0800, Mike <Mike[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: - quote - > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that |
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| "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:eGWu6WZVGHA.4300[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... - quote - > Mine's 64MB. Buy the fastest computer you can and learn to live with the
Maybe Sun Microsystem's plan to offer supercomputers by the hour could> fact that Money will be the slowest application you run on it. help. -- Chris Cowles Gainesville, FL |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote: - quote - > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that
The archive is a copy of your Money file as it existed before you> doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. My > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? archived. I suggest making a copy of that file and continue using it, or to File-> Restore a backup from before you archived. How long is "forever", and what program are you using? |
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| Mine's 64MB. Buy the fastest computer you can and learn to live with the fact that Money will be the slowest application you run on it. BTW, what version? There are some version specific features that can be maimed. See also http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=4. "Mike" <Mike[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news 8116C0A-3F71-4A03-8057-36B0BE339F13[at]microsoft.com...- quote - > Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but > that > doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. > My > MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? |
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| Money is taking forever to open... and use. I have tried archiving, but that doesn't seem to help, and it doesn't make the MNY datafile any smaller. My MNY datafile is 20MB. Does anyone have any advice? Thanks, Mike |
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