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Old 03-21-2006, 08:17 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JB wrote:

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> Doing the QIF import, I do the Ctrl+<click> , but they still come in to Money
> one account at a time. It has to be a sequential process. The Ctrl+<click> is really just a convenience. Anyway, the MS procedure for investment
> accounts has you importing individually, then closing the account prior to
> the next impoprt. After you have them all imported, you reopen them. This
> is their procedure, I don't understand why, but it nevertheless leaves you
> with a hopeless mess.


You process them one at a time, but the Ctrl+<click> lets Money look
for transfers.

A non-obvious thing: Richard Bollar has discovered, that it is
important at least sometimes, that the investment accounts be
imported first in the process. How? Name the QIF files such that
they come first alphabetically. So you could, for example, lead off
each investment account's QIF file name with an underscore. That
will alphabetize before numbers and letters. Thus you might have
_BrownInvestment.qif and BrownInvestmentCash.qif. This would cause
the investment account to be processed prior to the associated cash
account. When the BrownInvestment got created, you would specify
that you want to track the cash transactions. Then specify that
the cash transactions account for BrownInvestment was where the
BrownInvestmentCash.qif transactions get sent.

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> By the way, you say "*If* you do the QIF export and import thing"... is
> there another way? I'm led to believe that simply restoring a backup doesn't
> fix the "corruption". And yes, been there, done that... doesn't fix the
> problem.


I did not know about the other problems.
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:50 PM
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Sorry, but MS has referred me to that KB article so many times that I can
recite it in my sleep. It doesn't work, at least not for me.

No, that isn't the only symptom.

The transaction downloads often leave a blank payee field, and they override
manually input categories (i.e. it changes what I've already corrected).
I've spent literally hours playing with the account settings and preferred
payee name rules, but the problem persists.

I try to clean up my category list, only to have Money refresh it after a
few minutes with all the unused categories. Note that after nearly 20 years
of upgrading Money from older versions, my categories do not match entirely
with the standard list that the current version provides.

In a general sense, seems to me that ANY manual overrides of info should
ALWAYS prevail, why else would I make these changes? Unfortunately, Money
thinks it knows better. I've tried to adjust the settings in Tools> Settings,
but so far nothing works.

Doing the QIF import, I do the Ctrl+<click> , but they still come in to Money
one account at a time. It has to be a sequential process. The Ctrl+<clickis really just a convenience. Anyway, the MS procedure for investment
accounts has you importing individually, then closing the account prior to
the next impoprt. After you have them all imported, you reopen them. This
is their procedure, I don't understand why, but it nevertheless leaves you
with a hopeless mess.

By the way, you say "*If* you do the QIF export and import thing"... is
there another way? I'm led to believe that simply restoring a backup doesn't
fix the "corruption". And yes, been there, done that... doesn't fix the
problem.

Any other ideas to fix these problemS?


"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:lgm022p6ikp23f2aco16qfmj7cciglh866[at]4ax.com...
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> In microsoft.public.money, JB wrote:
> > I have numerous problems with Money 2006SB, and after many hours on the
> > phone with MS Tech Support, they come to the conclusion that I have a
> > corrupt file. While this may be true, I see many of the same or similar
> > problems discussed in this NG (e.g. the infamous "Account setup
> > temporarily
> > unavailable, try again later" problem),

> Is that your only symptom? Would
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889927/en-us apply? See below.
> > leading me to suspect that it is
> > really a bug that they just don't admit to, and therefore won't fix. Or do
> > all these people have corrupt files?
> > > They want me to recreate my accounts in a new file. You have to export

> > all
> > your accounts individually, and import them into the new file. I've tried
> > this twice, following MS's instructions in detail, and both times ended up
> > with a hopelessly screwed up mess. I have transactions and investment
> > accounts going back almost 20 years. I suspect all the inter-account
> > transfers, company acquisitions and mergers, stock splits, etc. are the
> > things Money just can't handle correctly, since it has to import 1 account
> > at a time.

> Stop! *If* you do the QIF export and import thing to a new file, it
> is important to import your accounts all at once using Ctrl+<click> to select the incoming QIF files.
> > Even if I was able to do this, what are the chances that the new
> > file would get corrupted?
> > > Has anyone got a magical solution to the "corruption" problem? Anyone

> > figured how to rebuild a new file with all the correct account balances
> > and
> > histories?

>


 
Old 03-21-2006, 06:59 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, JB wrote:

- quote -

> I have numerous problems with Money 2006SB, and after many hours on the
> phone with MS Tech Support, they come to the conclusion that I have a
> corrupt file. While this may be true, I see many of the same or similar
> problems discussed in this NG (e.g. the infamous "Account setup temporarily
> unavailable, try again later" problem),


Is that your only symptom? Would
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889927/en-us apply? See below.


- quote -

> leading me to suspect that it is
> really a bug that they just don't admit to, and therefore won't fix. Or do
> all these people have corrupt files?
> They want me to recreate my accounts in a new file. You have to export all
> your accounts individually, and import them into the new file. I've tried
> this twice, following MS's instructions in detail, and both times ended up
> with a hopelessly screwed up mess. I have transactions and investment
> accounts going back almost 20 years. I suspect all the inter-account
> transfers, company acquisitions and mergers, stock splits, etc. are the
> things Money just can't handle correctly, since it has to import 1 account
> at a time.


Stop! *If* you do the QIF export and import thing to a new file, it
is important to import your accounts all at once using Ctrl+<clickto select the incoming QIF files.


- quote -

> Even if I was able to do this, what are the chances that the new
> file would get corrupted?
> Has anyone got a magical solution to the "corruption" problem? Anyone
> figured how to rebuild a new file with all the correct account balances and
> histories?

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Old 03-21-2006, 06:27 PM
JB
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Default Corrupt File

I have numerous problems with Money 2006SB, and after many hours on the
phone with MS Tech Support, they come to the conclusion that I have a
corrupt file. While this may be true, I see many of the same or similar
problems discussed in this NG (e.g. the infamous "Account setup temporarily
unavailable, try again later" problem), leading me to suspect that it is
really a bug that they just don't admit to, and therefore won't fix. Or do
all these people have corrupt files?

They want me to recreate my accounts in a new file. You have to export all
your accounts individually, and import them into the new file. I've tried
this twice, following MS's instructions in detail, and both times ended up
with a hopelessly screwed up mess. I have transactions and investment
accounts going back almost 20 years. I suspect all the inter-account
transfers, company acquisitions and mergers, stock splits, etc. are the
things Money just can't handle correctly, since it has to import 1 account
at a time. Even if I was able to do this, what are the chances that the new
file would get corrupted?

Has anyone got a magical solution to the "corruption" problem? Anyone
figured how to rebuild a new file with all the correct account balances and
histories?


 

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