In microsoft.public.money, - Bobb - wrote:

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I infer you are saying you are not downloading the Sell.

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If I try to enter a Sell for more xxxxx than I have, Money will tell
me that I only have yyy.yyy shares available. "Would you like to
sell yyy.yyy shares?" You don't get that?

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If you are entering transactions by hand, you can do that. Just get
rid of all sweep MM transactions, and let the cash transactions
account represent your current MM+cash position.

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I often see it when I manually go to sell all of my mutual fund and
using broker data. The reason it fails for me - in Money it will show
100 shares ( which is right) but math -wise over the years it's rounded
up and I really only have 99.88557575765 shares in Money . When I see
it, what I do is cancel transaction, THEN adj shares to be 100. BUT it
sure would be nice to have it prompt me " Share balance will go
negative - OK ? " Like quicken used to do - just WARN me - let me
finish the trasaction. THEN I'll deal with it.
Another occasion that I see it is when I'm doing 2 buys/sells. I'm
using the proceeds of first to buy second, but for that moment my MMkt
has no money to buy the second ( it's in Money's "cash" not in my MMkt
account or vice-versa.).
The fix = PLEASE let me define my CASH account to be a certain Money Mkt
fund not " CASH " in Money.
( Or to remember to always SELL before you BUY )



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I also see this error far too often when correcting auto entry amounts which
have nothing to do with the shares. It is extremely aggravating.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, wchp wrote:

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I don't know if you have remaining problems.

I suggest you look thru the Investment Activities for each of those
funds to ensure that the Account column only lists the appropriate
account(s) for each.

In Account 7 I have the investment ABALX Ameican Funds American Balanced A
with 2831.819 shares

In account 3 I have the invsetment CLBAX American Funds American Balanced
529A with 1207.681 shares

In account 4 I have the invsetment CLBAX American Funds American Balanced
529A with 1207.681 shares

I was not trying to sell any shares from accounts 3 & 4
I was trying to sell 68.439 from Account 7 Investment ABALX

It seems as if Money confused CLBAX with ABALX in account 7 untill I changed
the fund names in accounts 3 & 4 so that it had the additional 529 in the
naming convention?

Just to make sure that the investments in CLBAX were not linked in accounts
3 & 4 I posted a "sell" of 10 shares to account 3. It reduced the qty of
shares in account 3 and the qty of shares in account 4 remained the same.


"Chris Cowles" wrote:

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"wchp" <wchp[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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As far as Money knows, are these different investments into the same mutual
fund with the same symbol? Or did you create separate 'investments' (a
separate investment entity) when you bought them in the separate accounts?

Part of the problem may be terminology. In the market place, you can make
multiple investments (verb) into a single stock or mutual fund. But in
Microsoft Money terms, an investment (noun) is something into which you put
your money. Investments (nouns) are held in accounts (noun) and the verb for
the transactions are buy, sell, add, remove, etc, are listed in the
'activity' column of the register.

You can make multiple buys (verb) into a single investment (noun) and you
can hold a single investment (noun) in multiple accounts (noun). This is
most easily illustrated by the fact that an investment list is shown in the
drop-down box in the register when completing a transaction.

If you don't mind, please list the number of shares of ABALX and CLBAX held
in accounts 3, 4 and 7. If you will, list the number per account, not in
aggregate. Get that information from the account summary page on each
investment account. Then tell us how much you were trying to sell from each,
when you experienced the error.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

RE: "That does not make sense. "
Agreed. Just to make sure my vernacular is correct let me try again...

In my portfolio I have 7 accounts
Account1 = my 401K
Account2 = Spouse 401K
Account3 = Child1 529
Account4 = Child2 529
Account5 = IRA
Account6 = Spouse IRA
Account7 = Non-Qual Investments and Funds

Account 7 contains ABALX "American Funds American Balanced A"
Accounts 3 & 4 both contain CLBAX "American Funds American Balanced 529A"

I had originally named both the CLBAX and ABALX the same. "American Funds
American Balanced A" But the investments were in different accounts in the
same portfolio.

When I expanded the Investment ABALX in Account7 and selected "New..." and
tried to enter the "Sell" transaction, It would give the error. When I simply
changed the activity to "short sell" I was then able to hit the ok button and
have the transaction post... except, it was not posting to the ABALX
investment. It Opens a new investment labeled CLBAX with the name "American
Funds American Balanced A" and shows the single short sell transaction in the
account.

I have since renamed both of the CLBAX investments so they read ""American
Funds American Balanced 529A" so that two funds with different symbols do not
have the same name.

If there is something more specifically I should be looking at please walk
me through it.
Thank you very much for your assistance so far.


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, wchp wrote:

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That does not make sense.

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I would look at the Portfolio view, grouped by Accounts. See if each
account has what you think it does. Check that each fund has the
correct symbol.

In microsoft.public.money, wchp wrote:

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Yes.

Start with File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair

Then if the problem still exists, use
File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair

Hmmmm...
More information:
I found the file repair feature and used "Level 2" which reported the
following error:
"Fixed records in online table."
After that I tried to enter the "sell" transaction again with the same
error. I changed it to a short sell and it accepted the transaction BUT....
It posted the transaction to a new fund with the same name.
Within my portfolio have have the 529 accountls listed for the kids and my
securities account.
"American Funds American Balanced A" has the symbol CLBAX in the 529
accounts and the symbol ABALX within my securites account.
When I tried to record the trasaction as a "short sell" to ABALX it actually
posted it to CLBAX and added the CLBAX fund to my investment account.
I then renamed the ABALX fund with "securities" appended to the end of the
name and I am now able to record the "sell" transaction.
Granted I resolved the issue, but why would this occure all of a sudden now?

"wchp" wrote:

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Problem still exists.
Any other thoughts?
Is there a file "repair" feature?


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In at least one of my accounts, I see this message all the time--when doing
things that have NOTHING to do with reducing the number of shares at any
point or at any point prior to today. No repair methods solve it. It pops up
in M04, 05, and 06 (of versions I have recent experience with). It is the
single most infuriating message I ever get from Money.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, wchp wrote:

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Perhaps your file is corrupted? I hope it is something else.

You are selecting the investment from the drop-down list, right?

Perhaps there are two securities with similar names defined? How
about this: Create that sell short transaction (you can delete it
later). Right-click the transaction and choose GoToInvestment. Click
Analysis on the left. Does the Quantity on the right show what you
expected?

Click InvestmentActivities on the left. Do you see the list of
transactions that you expected to see? You can delete that ShortSell
from that screen if you like. You can also try clicking New to enter
that Sell from that screen.


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I am running Money 2006 Premium. The account currently holds in excess of
2900 shares and did do at the time of the sale. Money gives no other error
other than the one I quoted when I try to record a sale of 68 shares. As
there were 2900+ shares in the account at the time of the sale and I sold 68
not sure what the error message is trying to tell me????

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, wchp wrote:

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What program are you running? Does it say how many shares you
actually hold?

I am trying to record a sale of some shares of a fund that I own. I have over
2900 shares of this fund and I am trying to record the sale of 68 shares.
When I try to record it as a "sell" transaction I get an error message that
says "The changes you are making will cause the share balance for 'Fundxxx"
to become negative at some point. Please cancel or revise the transaction."
The issue only affects this one fund and it will allow me to record the
transaction as a "short sell".
I do not understand why it will not let me record the transaction?
Any thoughts on what to look for or corrective action I might take?