I don't expect Roshlin is reading this, but I'm having the same problem in
Money 2005.
I have one purchase in a mutual fund and even when I enter today's date and
1500 units at $3, it shows an average cost of $2.91 and a gain of $128.56. I
have entered 0% commission and the investment is tax exempt. My base
currency is US$ but the investment is in Australian $'s. However, the
problem is not just an exchange rate difference as the current rate is about
A$1=US$0.85 and that ratio doesn't explain the difference.

Sad to say, I don't think MSN Money has figured out that a cost in a currency
needs to stay at that cost in that currency. Conversions can be done for
market values or for gain/loss calculations. Multiple currencies are
challenging enough without added difficulties from software.

"Chris Cowles" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Roshlin wrote:

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Sorry I did not respond earlier. I suggest creating a new test file
and see if you reproduce the symptom there. The difference could be
in our versions, or my test could have been faulty.

Hi Cal Learner--,

I guess I'll have to reinstall Money and give it a fresh start, if you have
any better suggeston please let me know, it'll save my weekend ;-)
Thanks for your time

"Cal Learner-- MVP" escribió:

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In microsoft.public.money, Roshlin wrote:

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I tried to replicate the problem with a buy using today's date. I
could not. I set up a file in US Money 2006, with Euro base
currency, but US$ account and US security. The performance view just
showed that I was down by the amount of the commission.




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Hi Cal Learner,

1. base currency euro and country spain
2. account currency US$
3. Investment symbol, currency, US$, if you me type and Cd, stock , bond all
give the same problem
4. Investment country US
and I have put tax exempt to simplify

Thanks


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Roshlin wrote:

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If I try to replicate this,

1. What is the base currency?

2. What is the "account currency"? You can find that in the account
settings.

3. What is the investment symbol?

4. What is the investment "country/region"? You can find that in the
Details for the investment.






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Hi Cal Learner,
Thanks for your interest,
The last price is 15$, qty is 199, market value is 2985$, till here perfect
(+15$ commision would give the 3000) and GAIN is 755.14 HOW???????

CLICKING + activity buy, price 15, qty 199, amount 3.000,00 US$ (EVERYTHING
PERFECT)

I removed the cost basis column in the valuation view now it doesn't show
the cost basis but values for gain don't change , as espected.

Really can't figure out what could be causing this. Please help
Thanks
"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Roshlin wrote:

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You are looking at the Portfolio Manager. What does the LastPrice
column indicate? Is there a symbol in front of the price? If so,
what is it?

Click the [+] in front of the investment name to expand the
transactions. What does it show for the Amount? What is the symbol
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You could remove the Cost Basis column by customizing any view.

I've done it the way Arthur sugested , making a cash transaction and the
transferring to the investment
And it does it with any type of investment. even with stock
It has to do ith the exchange rates in the cost basis.
Just to try different values, I made a cash deposit of 3000$ today, and
bought a stock, 199 [at] 15$ each and 15$ commision, and it is showing me a
gain of $755.14.
In the valuation view I can see that the difference comes from the cost
basis field whis is showing 2229.86 + 15$ of commission and you get the
difference.
Why is the cost basis showing the figure, when I have just made the purchase
today and the exchange rate has not changed. I even checked the value in
euros for this transaction is 2473,61 which has nothing to do with the
figure in the cost basis.

Is there any way to desavtivate the cost basis feature

Thanks

"arthur" escribió:

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"Roshlin" <Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Not having investments denominated in anything but USD, I've never played
with that. But I think Money always expresses returns in terms of the native
currency. Considering that, does it explain the difference?
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

An investment account should have 2 parts:
Cash and Investment ... access from left panel of account.

After setting up the account it should have zero cash and no
investments. Now go to your bank account and transfer 2000 to the new
investment account. The investment account should now have Cash 2000
in the Cash page. Next go to the Investment page and buy a, what we
call, Certificate of Deposit ( CD ) and fill in the form. In Spain
you might call it something else.

I can not help you further, so hope this helps.

cheers
arthur
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:11:30 -0800, Roshlin
<Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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"Roshlin" escribió:

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currency that €uro my default currency.

I tried the same opertaion with 2000€ on different dates and it works well.

I would really like to use the other currencies as well, thats why I'm
trying to use money. And the exchange rate has to do something with the gain
or loss the money is showing.

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Hi friends,
You both have me right but the problem conitnues,
I have opened a investment account bought a CD for 2000$ on 08/05/2002 int
rate 2.35% and maturity after a year, the gain should be $47 but money shows
-0.07$

And If I enter the same operation for 2000$ with identical int but change
the purchase date to 15/03/2005 and maturity 15/03/2006 same 1 yr my gain is
$633.15$ instead otf $47

In the valuation view of the portfolio manager the cost basis for the first
operation is $2000.07 and for the second 1366.85$ hence the difference, the
market value and quantity for both is shown as 2000, is there any way that i
could attach a screenshot.

Thanks Chris and Arthur

Roshlin
"arthur" escribió:

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Spain. Good catch.

I should have checked arin / ripe before answering. Oh well ...

arthur
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:10:53 -0500, "Chris Cowles"
<spam_magnet[at]remove-me-bellsouth.net> wrote:
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Not the expert and I think you are saying you purchased a 3yr CD from
a bank. Correct? The interest is only "accrued" (accounting jargon)
and you should receive a 1099-INT (assuming USA) each January. At
that time you can add the interest as a 12/31/200y entry.

We are speaking small change here ... $47 more or less in 12 months.

arthur
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:56:27 -0800, Roshlin
<Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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"Roshlin" <Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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From the non-English content of your replies, I infer you are not in the US.
In the US, we refer to that as a CD, i.e., Certificate of Deposit. Fixed
duration, fixed interest.

In Money, CDs are investments. They are held in accounts. Create an
investment account, name it what you want. Add a new investment called "CD 3
yr 2.35%" or something to your liking. Pick CD as investment type (I'm
assuming that's a choice in the version you're using.) Fill in the details
as prompted.

Post back with your experience.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

Hi Arthur,
I have invested 2000$ in a fixed deposit [at] 2.35% per annum for a period of 3
yrs
I have entered it as an investment, as a buy option in the money market. I
dont get a monthly staement only a receipt that says the interest rate and
the amount on maturity.
The gain money is showing me is after adding the buy transaction I haven't
added the interest as there is no option for it, my idea was to add the
maturity amount was by updating the price manually. But for that I want the
buy option not showing any gian, which is coming from the cost basis.

Thanks for your hel, is there any way I could copy and post the transaction
for you to see???

"arthur" escribió:

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What is it you really invested 2000 in? A CD or Savings Account or MM
or ??? Do you get a monthly statement online or mail?

arthur
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:07:26 -0800, Roshlin
<Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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I think that 2.2 is not the interest rate but rather the APY, which
for many, is the daily compound effective annual rate. It is as
though you made 1% on xyz today and claim your annual gain is 365%.

I assume it is not a Bond so don't expect Mny to know that you are
lying.

arthur
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 03:46:27 -0800, Roshlin
<Roshlin[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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