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Old 04-13-2007, 10:18 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Charles P wrote:

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> I also signed on today and found duplicate transactions in my banking
> accounts (wells fargo) going all the way back to the beginning of the
> register. I will not go through six years of data to delete duplicate
> information. My backup is three months old, so that means reentring 3 months
> of data in the restore. ideas?


Are you sure? Money 2006, by default, would keep four backups upon
exits. Look for *.mbf files.

Otherwise, if you want to delete the duplicates, setting the View to
sort by order of entry. You might then be able to delete or void the
duplicates more readily than having the transactions interspersed.

At
http://www.microsoft.com/money/banko...e=BanksOnly#39
I see there are two possible ways you are doing the downloads. If
you are using the direct direct OFX access, rather than downloading
via third party, I would opt to delete the older set of statements
rather than the new. I won't hit you with the details.

If you are going thru a third party, then I don't know if it would
matter.

Also, you will want to review your backup settings and strategy.
In M06: Tools-> Settings-> BackupSettings
I suggest checking
x Automatically backup my Money file every time I close Money
Save in [a place on your hard drive ]
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _20_most recent backup files [adjust to taste]

x Perform scheduled backups every _14_ days
Save in [a USB flash drive location]
x Ask me before backing up each time*
x Compress Backup Files
Keep only the _2_most recent backup files [adjust to taste,
but Money 2006 does not automatically trim to USB as it should]

Then periodically, perhaps once per month or more, copy your latest
backup (uniquely named by Money) to a CDR. With XP, this can be a
copy and paste operation. Otherwise use the burning software that
came with your CDR drive.

I strongly suggest use of a USB Flash drive rather than floppies.
They are bigger, so you don't have to swap media to back up. Plus
they are much more reliable (but not failure-proof).
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:04 PM
Charles P
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Default RE: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

I also signed on today and found duplicate transactions in my banking
accounts (wells fargo) going all the way back to the beginning of the
register. I will not go through six years of data to delete duplicate
information. My backup is three months old, so that means reentring 3 months
of data in the restore. ideas?
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"Vegasdonj" wrote:

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> My accounts registers are being corrupted with dup. transactions. I do NOT
> download account data from my banks, but I do update stock transactions.
> Both the banking and investment accounts will have dup transactions. I
> always work with Money "offline". Most times, I can restore my back up file,
> but yesterday, I inadvertently backed up the corrupted data and had to spend
> hours fixing the problem. What is causing Money to duplicate these
> transactions. Advice greatly appreciated.

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Old 10-05-2006, 02:53 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Mike Wills wrote:

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> Hello Cal, Vegasdonj,
> I've seen this in spades, so to speak, where Money (2004 small business or
> 2005 OEM) will suddenly triplicate all transactions in all accounts. Since
> there are thousands (now, threes thousandsss), reloading an earlier backup
> has been the only recovery path. I use a mix of online broker and bank
> downloads, quote server downloads, and purely manual transactions -- and even
> these get tripled.


I doubt it. Can you really be saying that you think you are not
downloading transactions and your transactions (that you manually
enter) are somehow getting tripled.

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> Does Quicken behave this badly? If not, I think I know my next step...

"this"? Really. I am skeptical of your description.




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> Your help and insight gratefully appreciated,
> cheers,
> mike
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, Vegasdonj wrote:
> > > Thank you for the response. Actually, it isn't a broker. It only

> > updates the stock prices (don't know the source). So I am not
> > downloading from any financial institution, or brokerage. (My IRA
> > is from Fidelity, but Money isn't set up to access these accounts,
> > or any other, directly). I'm still at a loss as to why these
> > duplicate transactions occur. If I catch it (like the balance of
> > checking account shows $20000+ or something!) then I can restore the
> > back-up. I used to run Money 2002 and never had this issue.
> > > You are not intending to download transactions, and yet transactions

> > are appearing?
> > > Are these only dividends? If so, I can identify the cause; dividends

> > (with odd dates) can be brought in from the quote server. You can
> > select to not have these added to your register when you get a
> > "Dividend/Distribution Notice" pop-up. You could click Clear-all. I
> > am not sure what happens if you just click Cancel. There may be a
> > setting to not even get the Pop-ups. If you are entering the
> > transactions by hand, these quote-server-provided predictions could
> > be useful. They normally come up just after the ex-dividend date and
> > the estimated date is 20 (IIRC) days later.
> > > > > If there are such transactions that are not dividends? In that case

> > you have somehow inadvertently set up your account for online
> > background banking access.

>
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Old 10-05-2006, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

Hello Cal, Vegasdonj,

I've seen this in spades, so to speak, where Money (2004 small business or
2005 OEM) will suddenly triplicate all transactions in all accounts. Since
there are thousands (now, threes thousandsss), reloading an earlier backup
has been the only recovery path. I use a mix of online broker and bank
downloads, quote server downloads, and purely manual transactions -- and even
these get tripled.

Does Quicken behave this badly? If not, I think I know my next step...

Your help and insight gratefully appreciated,
cheers,
mike

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Vegasdonj wrote:
> Thank you for the response. Actually, it isn't a broker. It only
> updates the stock prices (don't know the source). So I am not
> downloading from any financial institution, or brokerage. (My IRA
> is from Fidelity, but Money isn't set up to access these accounts,
> or any other, directly). I'm still at a loss as to why these
> duplicate transactions occur. If I catch it (like the balance of
> checking account shows $20000+ or something!) then I can restore the
> back-up. I used to run Money 2002 and never had this issue.
> You are not intending to download transactions, and yet transactions
> are appearing?
> Are these only dividends? If so, I can identify the cause; dividends
> (with odd dates) can be brought in from the quote server. You can
> select to not have these added to your register when you get a
> "Dividend/Distribution Notice" pop-up. You could click Clear-all. I
> am not sure what happens if you just click Cancel. There may be a
> setting to not even get the Pop-ups. If you are entering the
> transactions by hand, these quote-server-provided predictions could
> be useful. They normally come up just after the ex-dividend date and
> the estimated date is 20 (IIRC) days later.
> If there are such transactions that are not dividends? In that case
> you have somehow inadvertently set up your account for online
> background banking access.

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Old 03-11-2006, 06:49 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Vegasdonj wrote:

Thank you for the response. Actually, it isn't a broker. It only
updates the stock prices (don't know the source). So I am not
downloading from any financial institution, or brokerage. (My IRA
is from Fidelity, but Money isn't set up to access these accounts,
or any other, directly). I'm still at a loss as to why these
duplicate transactions occur. If I catch it (like the balance of
checking account shows $20000+ or something!) then I can restore the
back-up. I used to run Money 2002 and never had this issue.

You are not intending to download transactions, and yet transactions
are appearing?

Are these only dividends? If so, I can identify the cause; dividends
(with odd dates) can be brought in from the quote server. You can
select to not have these added to your register when you get a
"Dividend/Distribution Notice" pop-up. You could click Clear-all. I
am not sure what happens if you just click Cancel. There may be a
setting to not even get the Pop-ups. If you are entering the
transactions by hand, these quote-server-provided predictions could
be useful. They normally come up just after the ex-dividend date and
the estimated date is 20 (IIRC) days later.



If there are such transactions that are not dividends? In that case
you have somehow inadvertently set up your account for online
background banking access.
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:37 PM
Vegasdonj
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006



"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Vegasdonj wrote:
> > My accounts registers are being corrupted with dup. transactions. I do NOT
> > download account data from my banks, but I do update stock transactions.
> > Both the banking and investment accounts will have dup transactions. I
> > always work with Money "offline". Most times, I can restore my back up file,
> > but yesterday, I inadvertently backed up the corrupted data and had to spend
> > hours fixing the problem. What is causing Money to duplicate these
> > transactions.

> If this is direct download from your broker and is OFX, the file the
> broker sends should have the same transaction ID on the same
> transaction that prevents duplication. Sometimes in a transition to
> a new system, the broker could sent the transactions with different
> transaction IDs. Money thinks they are new. This might be a unique
> event, but for many transactions.
> Another thing that can happen is that some brokers have their
> systems in an odd state at certain times of the day, and they will
> send the odd duplicate or erroneous transaction.
> In a case like this, it may be best to work around this by Voiding
> or Deleting the *older* transaction. You can also temporarily sort
> the register by order of entry to help locate newer transactions
> more easily.
> Care to name the broker? Somebody might have experience with them.
> Thank you for the response. Actually, it isn't a broker. It only updates the stock prices (don't know the source). So I am not downloading from any financial institution, or brokerage. (My IRA is from Fidelity, but Money isn't set up to access these accounts, or any other, directly). I'm still at a loss as to why these duplicate transactions occur. If I catch it (like the balance of checking account shows $20000+ or something!) then I can restore the back-up. I used to run Money 2002 and never had this issue.

 
Old 03-11-2006, 04:19 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

In microsoft.public.money, Vegasdonj wrote:

- quote -

> My accounts registers are being corrupted with dup. transactions. I do NOT
> download account data from my banks, but I do update stock transactions.
> Both the banking and investment accounts will have dup transactions. I
> always work with Money "offline". Most times, I can restore my back up file,
> but yesterday, I inadvertently backed up the corrupted data and had to spend
> hours fixing the problem. What is causing Money to duplicate these
> transactions.


If this is direct download from your broker and is OFX, the file the
broker sends should have the same transaction ID on the same
transaction that prevents duplication. Sometimes in a transition to
a new system, the broker could sent the transactions with different
transaction IDs. Money thinks they are new. This might be a unique
event, but for many transactions.

Another thing that can happen is that some brokers have their
systems in an odd state at certain times of the day, and they will
send the odd duplicate or erroneous transaction.

In a case like this, it may be best to work around this by Voiding
or Deleting the *older* transaction. You can also temporarily sort
the register by order of entry to help locate newer transactions
more easily.

Care to name the broker? Somebody might have experience with them.

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Old 03-11-2006, 01:14 PM
Vegasdonj
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Default Duplicate Transactions on Money 2006

My accounts registers are being corrupted with dup. transactions. I do NOT
download account data from my banks, but I do update stock transactions.
Both the banking and investment accounts will have dup transactions. I
always work with Money "offline". Most times, I can restore my back up file,
but yesterday, I inadvertently backed up the corrupted data and had to spend
hours fixing the problem. What is causing Money to duplicate these
transactions. Advice greatly appreciated.
 

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