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Old 02-10-2006, 01:00 PM
Dick Watson
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Comments inline.

"BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A1BD9BFC-CAEB-4261-A0F3-07E419568F79[at]microsoft.com...
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> Okay. I think I've got it. Thanks!
> WOW! A 63.1 Mb file!! Must have a lot of history in there!


My first transaction that was entered contemporaneously was in March of
1993.

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> So far, I still have the integrated file as well...so no harm done. I've
> just been playing with the two separated files to see what impact this had
> on
> size and speed. So far, it's not a noticeable difference.


I don't know exactly why this is, but it is a common experience.

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> My concern with the file size centered on how slow MS Money is when the
> file
> first opens. Sometimes it seems like 1-2 minutes before you can enter any
> transactions after opening the file. I assumed the file size was what was
> causing my troubles. I've tried the file on both computers, and both have
> 40Gb hard drives with plenty of free space, 512 MB of RAM, and > 2.0 GHz
> processesors. Money seems to be the slowest of all the apps I run.
> However,
> after the initial slow period, it seems to be fine. Is this a normal thing
> for Money?


There are things you can do in terms of not using features of Money that
help around the margins. (That's a little like saying a 747 will climb
really quickly and fly really far if you don't carry any passengers or
cargo, but there it is.) Cal mentioned many of these features that can be
avoided. Beyond that, the performance "issues" you are seeing seem to be
common for many users. It's the slowest of the apps I run as well, by a wide
margin. I tolerate it because I don't see any good options. The Money
designers made some choices that rolled out in M98 that have probably fixed
the fate of the product as regards performance. The good news is that they
can roll out a lot of function for relatively little code unique to Money.
(The choices made were to use IE to run the user interface and to use Jet as
the underlying database.) The bad news is that the UI and DB components are
probably not optimal solutions as regards performance.


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Old 02-10-2006, 12:50 PM
Dick Watson
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That's as good as you can do in that area.

"BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Oh...and yes...I go into the price update screen and maually delete price
> quotes. I leave one data point for each month so I can still see the
> monthly
> trends.



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Old 02-10-2006, 04:11 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, BK wrote:

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> My concern with the file size centered on how slow MS Money is when the file
> first opens. Sometimes it seems like 1-2 minutes before you can enter any
> transactions after opening the file.



Here are some things that may help. While you are thinking about
it, review your backup policy. Especially, when you are making
significant changes, you would want to make an extra backup file.

For each account, go to the account details. Uncheck to include
the account in the budget planner and for budgeted savings goals.

Go to Tools-> Options-> Feedback-> (PersonalizedFeedback)Options...
and choose DoNotDisplayPersonalizedFeedback.

You may find that having fewer scheduled bills will speed your
program.

If you have slow launch and do not need the background banking or
expanded FI access, consider removing your Passport.
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Old 02-10-2006, 03:03 AM
BK
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Oh...and yes...I go into the price update screen and maually delete price
quotes. I leave one data point for each month so I can still see the monthly
trends.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> Comments inline.
> "BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FF46C058-D07F-4A1D-8E3B-290DEE307155[at]microsoft.com...
> > Thanks! Ok...so according to the article, it's not the reports. I delete
> > the
> > price update info on my investments on a regular basis...keeping only one
> > quote for each month. Does Money store other info regarding quotes and
> > prices? Know where?

> So, you go in manually and delete each investment price history data point?
> > Wouldn't Money dump the investment quotes when I delete
> > the investment accounts?

> Quotes (investment price history) is related to investments and not
> investment accounts. Deleting investment accounts won't touch price history.
> Deleting investments hsould, but Money never really does delet an
> investment.
> > FYI. I actually split the account in two...one for working accounts and
> > one
> > for investment accounts. I started with a single file (size near 10Mb) and
> > ended up with two files of ~7.5 Mb (one with working accounts only, the
> > other
> > with investment accounts only). I accomplished this by copying the MSmoney
> > file, renaming it, and then deleting unwanted accounts from each "new"
> > file.

> Sound like a lot of work to throw away and/or disassociate data you went to
> a lot of trouble to collect and associate. I'm not sure what drives you to
> worry about file size, but you have a small Money file. At this writing, my
> M04 data file is 63.1 MB.

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Old 02-10-2006, 03:00 AM
BK
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Okay. I think I've got it. Thanks!

WOW! A 63.1 Mb file!! Must have a lot of history in there!

So far, I still have the integrated file as well...so no harm done. I've
just been playing with the two separated files to see what impact this had on
size and speed. So far, it's not a noticeable difference.

My concern with the file size centered on how slow MS Money is when the file
first opens. Sometimes it seems like 1-2 minutes before you can enter any
transactions after opening the file. I assumed the file size was what was
causing my troubles. I've tried the file on both computers, and both have
40Gb hard drives with plenty of free space, 512 MB of RAM, and > 2.0 GHz
processesors. Money seems to be the slowest of all the apps I run. However,
after the initial slow period, it seems to be fine. Is this a normal thing
for Money?

"Dick Watson" wrote:

- quote -

> Comments inline.
> "BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FF46C058-D07F-4A1D-8E3B-290DEE307155[at]microsoft.com...
> > Thanks! Ok...so according to the article, it's not the reports. I delete
> > the
> > price update info on my investments on a regular basis...keeping only one
> > quote for each month. Does Money store other info regarding quotes and
> > prices? Know where?

> So, you go in manually and delete each investment price history data point?
> > Wouldn't Money dump the investment quotes when I delete
> > the investment accounts?

> Quotes (investment price history) is related to investments and not
> investment accounts. Deleting investment accounts won't touch price history.
> Deleting investments hsould, but Money never really does delet an
> investment.
> > FYI. I actually split the account in two...one for working accounts and
> > one
> > for investment accounts. I started with a single file (size near 10Mb) and
> > ended up with two files of ~7.5 Mb (one with working accounts only, the
> > other
> > with investment accounts only). I accomplished this by copying the MSmoney
> > file, renaming it, and then deleting unwanted accounts from each "new"
> > file.

> Sound like a lot of work to throw away and/or disassociate data you went to
> a lot of trouble to collect and associate. I'm not sure what drives you to
> worry about file size, but you have a small Money file. At this writing, my
> M04 data file is 63.1 MB.

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Old 02-10-2006, 02:15 AM
Dick Watson
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Comments inline.

"BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FF46C058-D07F-4A1D-8E3B-290DEE307155[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Thanks! Ok...so according to the article, it's not the reports. I delete
> the
> price update info on my investments on a regular basis...keeping only one
> quote for each month. Does Money store other info regarding quotes and
> prices? Know where?


So, you go in manually and delete each investment price history data point?

- quote -

> Wouldn't Money dump the investment quotes when I delete
> the investment accounts?


Quotes (investment price history) is related to investments and not
investment accounts. Deleting investment accounts won't touch price history.
Deleting investments hsould, but Money never really does delet an
investment.

- quote -

> FYI. I actually split the account in two...one for working accounts and
> one
> for investment accounts. I started with a single file (size near 10Mb) and
> ended up with two files of ~7.5 Mb (one with working accounts only, the
> other
> with investment accounts only). I accomplished this by copying the MSmoney
> file, renaming it, and then deleting unwanted accounts from each "new"
> file.


Sound like a lot of work to throw away and/or disassociate data you went to
a lot of trouble to collect and associate. I'm not sure what drives you to
worry about file size, but you have a small Money file. At this writing, my
M04 data file is 63.1 MB.


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Old 02-10-2006, 01:12 AM
BK
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Thanks! Ok...so according to the article, it's not the reports. I delete the
price update info on my investments on a regular basis...keeping only one
quote for each month. Does Money store other info regarding quotes and
prices? Know where? Wouldn't Money dump the investment quotes when I delete
the investment accounts?

FYI. I actually split the account in two...one for working accounts and one
for investment accounts. I started with a single file (size near 10Mb) and
ended up with two files of ~7.5 Mb (one with working accounts only, the other
with investment accounts only). I accomplished this by copying the MSmoney
file, renaming it, and then deleting unwanted accounts from each "new" file.

Thanks again!

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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> See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=135. Quotes can be quite large and in
> older versions of Money there is no way to get rid of them besides one at a
> time.
> "BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news85DF4AA-8703-4AFB-AD76-FF462014B5A3[at]microsoft.com...
> > Anybody know how to purge the monthly reports files?

 
Old 02-09-2006, 11:12 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: File Size

See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=135. Quotes can be quite large and in
older versions of Money there is no way to get rid of them besides one at a
time.

"BK" <BK[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news85DF4AA-8703-4AFB-AD76-FF462014B5A3[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> Anybody know how to purge the monthly reports files?


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Old 02-09-2006, 09:37 PM
BK
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Hi,

I've used Money since 2001, upgrading to Money 2004 along the way. My file
size is now close to 10 Mb even though I archive my transactions annually.
Investments transactions won't archive, so I thought maybe this was the
problem. However, I deleted all the investment accounts and the file size is
still 7.5 Mb.

I suspect this is being caused by the monthly report feature saving monthly
reports all the way back to January of 2001. I would like to purge these
reports as I don't ever use them, but I can't figure out a way to do so. I
tried resetting the budget, but the reports are still there.

Anybody know how to purge the monthly reports files?

Thanks!
 

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