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| In microsoft.public.money, md wrote: - quote - > yes. It makes no sense to me to include watch accounts in totals such as Net
I assume you mean to show the TR .> Worth etc etc...... So yes your way works and that is the only way I guess to > do it. Thanks alot. As I said before, Money is very good as some things and > frustrating at other things. > One last idea I have. To include rate of return on sold investments...If I > have 10 shares of a stock (for example only) and then sell all 10 shares, I > sell 9.99 shares in Money investment account. That works. I only do this for > watch accounts for now. > What do you think of that idea. That should work in a way. I think you are trying to measure your paper-trading performance while also showing the performance for the various time periods since you made your paper sell. You might want to consider two watch accounts. Use one for your trading practice, and use the other to display performance whether you care to "hold" that security or not in the practice account. They can hold some of the same securities. |
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| yes. It makes no sense to me to include watch accounts in totals such as Net Worth etc etc...... So yes your way works and that is the only way I guess to do it. Thanks alot. As I said before, Money is very good as some things and frustrating at other things. One last idea I have. To include rate of return on sold investments...If I have 10 shares of a stock (for example only) and then sell all 10 shares, I sell 9.99 shares in Money investment account. That works. I only do this for watch accounts for now. What do you think of that idea. Thanks...enjoy the weekend |
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| In microsoft.public.money, md wrote: - quote - > Thanks so much. It works as you say.
In Money 2006 Portfolio view, selecting> One thing I cant do is get the rate of return from a "watch" investment > account. I am trying to have a watch investment account with the > recommendations from one advisor. That way I can keep track of his > performance and without actually buying the stocks. Or if I do buy the stocks > I want to keep his stocks picks seperate from my other stocks. > Any ideas on how to do this? ChangePortfolioView-> ShowWatchAccounts will give you performance data if the you make the Buys, or even AddShares, be for non-zero quantity. It would be my preference that the amounts from watch accounts not add-in to the overall totals, but they do in Money 2006 when the watch accounts are shown. So normally you probably want to keep ChangePortfolioView-> ShowWatchAccounts de-selected most of the time. |
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| Thanks so much. It works as you say. One thing I cant do is get the rate of return from a "watch" investment account. I am trying to have a watch investment account with the recommendations from one advisor. That way I can keep track of his performance and without actually buying the stocks. Or if I do buy the stocks I want to keep his stocks picks seperate from my other stocks. Any ideas on how to do this? |
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| On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:58:22 -0800, "md" <md[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: - quote - > I believe that Money does NOT include investments sold in an account when it
It does include them in the various performance reports. I does not include> figures the rate of return for that account. > So if you sold a lot of stock for big profits but still had the losers Money > would show a negative rate of return for that account. Am I right? > Using 2006 Premium but this would be the same for all versions. them (at least in 2003) on the Portfolio page. --ron |
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| In microsoft.public.money, md wrote: - quote - > I believe that Money does NOT include investments sold in an account when it
In Money 2006 Portfolio view, toggling> figures the rate of return for that account. > So if you sold a lot of stock for big profits but still had the losers Money > would show a negative rate of return for that account. Am I right? > Using 2006 Premium but this would be the same for all versions. ChangePortfolioView-> ShowClosedPositions changes whether closed positions affect total return (TR) figures (week, 4 weeks, 3 month, TD, year, 3 years) and several other numbers, but not the "Ann. Ret" number. |
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| I share your frustration. Microsoft Money is very good for some things but not this. |
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| My post above implies that my comments apply only to M2004 & earlier. I intended to say that Money calculates this way at least through M2004. I don't know about later versions but would be surprised if they didn't apply to them as well. L Cramer" <lzcramer[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:F6JEf.4$%K3.3[at]fe07.lga... - quote - > Through M2004, return calculations in PV will *include* the performance > of investments previously owned if you still own some shares in that > account. If you sell all shares of an investment then its performance > will > be excluded from the calculation. > I find this frustrating. For example, after selling all 12K shares of a > stock I decided a few months later to buy back 1K shares at a lower price. > I am underwater on the shares currently owned, yet PV includes 5 years > worth > of dividends and a large price appreciation on the sold shares in my > percentage gain calculation. If I want to calculate my total return for > my > currently owned shares, a calculator seems to work best. > "md" <md[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:3F509A3D-99C2-4A89-B1E1-4D4DD7100D83[at]microsoft.com... > > I believe that Money does NOT include investments sold in an account when > > it > > figures the rate of return for that account. > > So if you sold a lot of stock for big profits but still had the losers > > Money > > would show a negative rate of return for that account. Am I right? > > > Using 2006 Premium but this would be the same for all versions. > > |
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| Through M2004, return calculations in PV will *include* the performance of investments previously owned if you still own some shares in that account. If you sell all shares of an investment then its performance will be excluded from the calculation. I find this frustrating. For example, after selling all 12K shares of a stock I decided a few months later to buy back 1K shares at a lower price. I am underwater on the shares currently owned, yet PV includes 5 years worth of dividends and a large price appreciation on the sold shares in my percentage gain calculation. If I want to calculate my total return for my currently owned shares, a calculator seems to work best. "md" <md[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3F509A3D-99C2-4A89-B1E1-4D4DD7100D83[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I believe that Money does NOT include investments sold in an account when > it > figures the rate of return for that account. > So if you sold a lot of stock for big profits but still had the losers > Money > would show a negative rate of return for that account. Am I right? > Using 2006 Premium but this would be the same for all versions. |
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| I believe that Money does NOT include investments sold in an account when it figures the rate of return for that account. So if you sold a lot of stock for big profits but still had the losers Money would show a negative rate of return for that account. Am I right? Using 2006 Premium but this would be the same for all versions. |
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