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Old 01-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Krista Bradford
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

The weird thing is that ALL of the data files were stored on a mapped drive,
not on the computer that died . . .so it hard to imagine that all of them
would then suddenly not work. I kept my master file and some backups on the
mapped drive and backed up to a directory on the laptop that died. . .will
check another hard drive . . . .to see if anything's there.

Thanks for trying!
KB
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Krista


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:
> > > I know I'm using the correct password because I had written it down and when

> > I enter one I know to be incorrect, it simply prompts me for the correct
> > password. But when I enter the right one, I get the above message saying the
> > file couldn't be repaired, though the log says there are no broken records .
> > . .
> > > As background, I competely removed Money 2006,uninstalling the program,

> > deleting the folders (moving my data files to the documents folder), deleting
> > the money folder under documents & settings -> all users-> Microsoft. I then
> > regedited and got rid of the money references there. I did a clean reboot and
> > reinstall . . ..the above repair issues happens following the clean install.
> > > Any suggestions?

> When you try to open the files with a version older than the Money
> file version, you usually get a bogus password message. You have now
> eliminated that as a cause of problems. You could have done that
> with the Money 2006 trial; it could convert earlier business files,
> but would not have the business features available.
> It would seem your files that you are using so far are actually
> corrupted. :-(
> If you have the old laptop that died, and if you have not
> reformatted etc, someone may be able to remove and search that hard
> drive for *.mny or *.mbf files. There are adaptors that will let a
> laptop drive connect to a desktop machine. I suggest you not try a
> file recovery program that writes to that drive. I suggest you don't
> do anything that writes to that drive.
> Think about any USB flash drives or CDs that you might have made an
> extra backup to.

  #10  
Old 01-21-2006, 05:34 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:

- quote -

> I know I'm using the correct password because I had written it down and when
> I enter one I know to be incorrect, it simply prompts me for the correct
> password. But when I enter the right one, I get the above message saying the
> file couldn't be repaired, though the log says there are no broken records .
> . .
> As background, I competely removed Money 2006,uninstalling the program,
> deleting the folders (moving my data files to the documents folder), deleting
> the money folder under documents & settings -> all users-> Microsoft. I then
> regedited and got rid of the money references there. I did a clean reboot and
> reinstall . . ..the above repair issues happens following the clean install.
> Any suggestions?


When you try to open the files with a version older than the Money
file version, you usually get a bogus password message. You have now
eliminated that as a cause of problems. You could have done that
with the Money 2006 trial; it could convert earlier business files,
but would not have the business features available.

It would seem your files that you are using so far are actually
corrupted. :-(

If you have the old laptop that died, and if you have not
reformatted etc, someone may be able to remove and search that hard
drive for *.mny or *.mbf files. There are adaptors that will let a
laptop drive connect to a desktop machine. I suggest you not try a
file recovery program that writes to that drive. I suggest you don't
do anything that writes to that drive.

Think about any USB flash drives or CDs that you might have made an
extra backup to.



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Old 01-21-2006, 04:46 PM
Krista Bradford
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

Additional clues:

I try to open either the mny file, an M12, or M14 file using Money 2006
Small Business, I get the following error message": Microsoft has exerpienced
an internal error and has to restart"

When I click for more information:
AppName: msmoney.exe AppVer: 15.0.0.513 ModName: kernel32.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 0001eb33

I then run a standard repair on the MNY file and I get prompted for a
password. When I enter the correct password, a window tells me: "the utility
could not repair your file. Repair a dfferent version of your file, restore a
backup file, or re-install Money. You should also make sure your file is not
saved as read-only(0x800a1462)" I click the log and it says "No broken
records in the original file." This leades me to suspect this remains a
password bug issue that is locking up my data file.

I know I'm using the correct password because I had written it down and when
I enter one I know to be incorrect, it simply prompts me for the correct
password. But when I enter the right one, I get the above message saying the
file couldn't be repaired, though the log says there are no broken records .
.. .

As background, I competely removed Money 2006,uninstalling the program,
deleting the folders (moving my data files to the documents folder), deleting
the money folder under documents & settings -> all users-> Microsoft. I then
regedited and got rid of the money references there. I did a clean reboot and
reinstall . . ..the above repair issues happens following the clean install.

Any suggestions?
KB

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Krista


"Krista Bradford" wrote:

- quote -

> I went out and bought MS Money 2006 Small Business, hoping a new improved
> version might help resolve the issue. however, it crashes when I try to open
> the mny file and M12 and 14 backup files that were created using Money 2005
> which was upgraded from 2003 (I don't believe I ever had 2004 . . .though do
> have the files with that 204 suffix.). Any suggestions?
> Krista
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > > > In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:
> > > > > > I've pretty much tried the workarounds and have hit the wall. I do the update
> > > > of sample, but still get prompted for the phantom password when I attempt to
> > > > open the mny file with all of my data. the same thing happens with the backup
> > > > files. Any additional ideas? I'm about ready to give up and recreate my
> > > > entire financial history by hand for a dozen or so accounts (2 businesses and
> > > > personal).
> > > > > What problem are you having? Are you having a problem
> > > opening/restoring what you think is a Money 2003 file into Money
> > > 2005?
> > > > > What "workarounds" have you tried?
> > > Oh, I forgot to look back into the thread.
> > > If you have a *.M12 file, that would indicate that you had a Money

> > 2004 file that you converted, or attempted to convert.
> > > If you copy that file to Krista.mny, Money 2005 should be able to

> > open and convert Krista.mny. If you want to open a *.mbf or a *.mny
> > that is dated newer than the *.M12 file, I suggest you try the Money
> > 2006 trial.
> >
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:51 PM
Krista Bradford
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

I went out and bought MS Money 2006 Small Business, hoping a new improved
version might help resolve the issue. however, it crashes when I try to open
the mny file and M12 and 14 backup files that were created using Money 2005
which was upgraded from 2003 (I don't believe I ever had 2004 . . .though do
have the files with that 204 suffix.). Any suggestions?

Krista


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:
> > > > I've pretty much tried the workarounds and have hit the wall. I do the update
> > > of sample, but still get prompted for the phantom password when I attempt to
> > > open the mny file with all of my data. the same thing happens with the backup
> > > files. Any additional ideas? I'm about ready to give up and recreate my
> > > entire financial history by hand for a dozen or so accounts (2 businesses and
> > > personal).
> > > What problem are you having? Are you having a problem

> > opening/restoring what you think is a Money 2003 file into Money
> > 2005?
> > > What "workarounds" have you tried?

> Oh, I forgot to look back into the thread.
> If you have a *.M12 file, that would indicate that you had a Money
> 2004 file that you converted, or attempted to convert.
> If you copy that file to Krista.mny, Money 2005 should be able to
> open and convert Krista.mny. If you want to open a *.mbf or a *.mny
> that is dated newer than the *.M12 file, I suggest you try the Money
> 2006 trial.

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Old 01-20-2006, 06:23 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:
> > I've pretty much tried the workarounds and have hit the wall. I do the update
> > of sample, but still get prompted for the phantom password when I attempt to
> > open the mny file with all of my data. the same thing happens with the backup
> > files. Any additional ideas? I'm about ready to give up and recreate my
> > entire financial history by hand for a dozen or so accounts (2 businesses and
> > personal).

> What problem are you having? Are you having a problem
> opening/restoring what you think is a Money 2003 file into Money
> 2005?
> What "workarounds" have you tried?


Oh, I forgot to look back into the thread.

If you have a *.M12 file, that would indicate that you had a Money
2004 file that you converted, or attempted to convert.

If you copy that file to Krista.mny, Money 2005 should be able to
open and convert Krista.mny. If you want to open a *.mbf or a *.mny
that is dated newer than the *.M12 file, I suggest you try the Money
2006 trial.

  #6  
Old 01-20-2006, 06:17 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

In microsoft.public.money, Krista Bradford wrote:

- quote -

> I've pretty much tried the workarounds and have hit the wall. I do the update
> of sample, but still get prompted for the phantom password when I attempt to
> open the mny file with all of my data. the same thing happens with the backup
> files. Any additional ideas? I'm about ready to give up and recreate my
> entire financial history by hand for a dozen or so accounts (2 businesses and
> personal).


What problem are you having? Are you having a problem
opening/restoring what you think is a Money 2003 file into Money
2005?

What "workarounds" have you tried?

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Old 01-20-2006, 06:10 PM
Krista Bradford
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

I've pretty much tried the workarounds and have hit the wall. I do the update
of sample, but still get prompted for the phantom password when I attempt to
open the mny file with all of my data. the same thing happens with the backup
files. Any additional ideas? I'm about ready to give up and recreate my
entire financial history by hand for a dozen or so accounts (2 businesses and
personal).
--
Krista


"Dick Watson" wrote:

- quote -

> That was the first of the two choices offered in the referenced UFAQ
> question.
> "Marilyn & Bob" <privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:epwmZ3DHGHA.312[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Wouldn't it be less complicated to simply navigate to the Sample.mny file

> in
> > Windows Explorer and double click on it. This should open Money with
> > Sample.mny instead of the last (corrupt) file it tried to open without all
> > the moving and renaming.

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Old 01-18-2006, 02:03 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

That was the first of the two choices offered in the referenced UFAQ
question.

"Marilyn & Bob" <privacy[at]nospam.please> wrote in message
news:epwmZ3DHGHA.312[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Wouldn't it be less complicated to simply navigate to the Sample.mny file
in
> Windows Explorer and double click on it. This should open Money with
> Sample.mny instead of the last (corrupt) file it tried to open without all
> the moving and renaming.



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Old 01-18-2006, 01:45 PM
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Dick,
Wouldn't it be less complicated to simply navigate to the Sample.mny file in
Windows Explorer and double click on it. This should open Money with
Sample.mny instead of the last (corrupt) file it tried to open without all
the moving and renaming.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:%23Z6Mj7%23GGHA.2012[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Your data file is a .MNY file. You should move it to somewhere in the My
> Documents folder if it isn't already there. You should generally stay out
> of the Money installation folder except maybe to open the Sample data
> file.
> The point of the step was what to do if Money starts and crashes because
> it's opening a most recent file it doesn't understand. In this case the
> user must do something to get Money up and running in order to update it.
> If it crashes upon opening, you can't get there unless you prevent it from
> opening the file it doesn't like anyway. Moving/renaming the file is how
> I'm suggesting doing this.
> Make more sense?
> "Krista Bradford" <KristaBradford[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:CB7B4470-EF3A-4EA8-BD60-9AE8EDD1C193[at]microsoft.com...
> > I think I've pretty much tried the steps you linked to, however one piece
> > isn't clear to me . . .
> > "b) temporarily relocate your data file, start Money, and let it create a
> > new data file. Somewhere along the way you can skip the setup wizards."
> > > is the data file the mny file or ??? there's a lot of other stuff

> > (subfolders, etc) in the money folder and so I wonder how much of it
> > needs to
> > be relocated.


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Old 01-18-2006, 04:20 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

Your data file is a .MNY file. You should move it to somewhere in the My
Documents folder if it isn't already there. You should generally stay out of
the Money installation folder except maybe to open the Sample data file.

The point of the step was what to do if Money starts and crashes because
it's opening a most recent file it doesn't understand. In this case the user
must do something to get Money up and running in order to update it. If it
crashes upon opening, you can't get there unless you prevent it from opening
the file it doesn't like anyway. Moving/renaming the file is how I'm
suggesting doing this.

Make more sense?

"Krista Bradford" <KristaBradford[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:CB7B4470-EF3A-4EA8-BD60-9AE8EDD1C193[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I think I've pretty much tried the steps you linked to, however one piece
> isn't clear to me . . .
> "b) temporarily relocate your data file, start Money, and let it create a
> new data file. Somewhere along the way you can skip the setup wizards."
> is the data file the mny file or ??? there's a lot of other stuff
> (subfolders, etc) in the money folder and so I wonder how much of it needs
> to
> be relocated.



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Old 01-18-2006, 01:58 AM
Krista Bradford
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Default Re: Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

I think I've pretty much tried the steps you linked to, however one piece
isn't clear to me . . .
"b) temporarily relocate your data file, start Money, and let it create a
new data file. Somewhere along the way you can skip the setup wizards."

is the data file the mny file or ??? there's a lot of other stuff
(subfolders, etc) in the money folder and so I wonder how much of it needs to
be relocated.
--
Krista


"Dick Watson" wrote:

- quote -

> There's lots of stuff in your posting and I'm not sure I followed all of it.
> I think, however, that you might find http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=177
> helpful.
> "Krista Bradford" <KristaBradford[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:82E222BE-A8E5-44B2-8EE8-B8D5AE6912A8[at]microsoft.com...
> > I thought I had resolved this issue previously, but it appears not.
> > > I had Money 2005 Small Business installed on a laptop that died. It had

> > been
> > upgraded, full install, from a Money 2003 Deluxe & Business version. I
> > parked my data files on a mapped drive on another computer . . .previously
> > I
> > had XP professional on my laptop. Now I'm running XP Home.
> > > Upon reinstalling the software I get prompted for a password. When I enter

> > what I know to be correct (because I'd written said password down), the
> > file
> > does not open. Neither trying the password nor checking the "I do not
> > need
> > to use online services" works. Next, I am prompted that either the file is
> > read only (it is not), that Money cannot find the file (I have shown money
> > where the file is) or that it cannot be opened (duh . . .the password
> > bug!)
> > > So here's my situation. I have an mny file I cannot open because of the

> > above mentioned issue. I attempted to install 2005 on my new laptop
> > system
> > running xp home. I let money update by opening Sample through My
> > Explorer,
> > and still when I attempt to open the mny file that contains my entire
> > financial life, i get prompted for this apparent phantom password.
> > > So I fall back and punt. I see there are several *.M12 files witht he same

> > file name as the mny one that I want to open. They apear to be of a fairly
> > recent date - dec 2005 --, so I've attempted to open those. (Apparently
> > *.M12 is a Money 2004 backup file. I don't have Money 2004 . . .I have
> > 2003
> > from which I upgraded to 2005 . . .) When I attempt to restore the file
> > through Money 2005 which is supposed to be backwards compatible, I get
> > prompted to give the restored file a name, and then .. .drum roll ...I get
> > prompted "sign into money" using the passport.
> > > If i cannot open the mny file or the backup files, I will have to re-enter

> > by hand every transaction for multiple checking and credit card accounts .
> > .
> > .not my idea of fun! I wonder whether I need to open the files from the
> > place they'd been . . .(the mapped drive) or whether I can put them in a
> > new
> > directory. Anywhoo .. .neither way seems to work.
> > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm on the verge of giving up and

> > doing massive data entry by hand. Microsoft support through their chat
> > feature online was useless, BTW, further wasting my time. The tech person
> > was unaware of the issue and kept claiming my files were corrupted.
> > > Best,

> > KB --
> > > > Krista

 
Old 01-18-2006, 01:42 AM
Dick Watson
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There's lots of stuff in your posting and I'm not sure I followed all of it.
I think, however, that you might find http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=177
helpful.

"Krista Bradford" <KristaBradford[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:82E222BE-A8E5-44B2-8EE8-B8D5AE6912A8[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I thought I had resolved this issue previously, but it appears not.
> I had Money 2005 Small Business installed on a laptop that died. It had
> been
> upgraded, full install, from a Money 2003 Deluxe & Business version. I
> parked my data files on a mapped drive on another computer . . .previously
> I
> had XP professional on my laptop. Now I'm running XP Home.
> Upon reinstalling the software I get prompted for a password. When I enter
> what I know to be correct (because I'd written said password down), the
> file
> does not open. Neither trying the password nor checking the "I do not
> need
> to use online services" works. Next, I am prompted that either the file is
> read only (it is not), that Money cannot find the file (I have shown money
> where the file is) or that it cannot be opened (duh . . .the password
> bug!)
> So here's my situation. I have an mny file I cannot open because of the
> above mentioned issue. I attempted to install 2005 on my new laptop
> system
> running xp home. I let money update by opening Sample through My
> Explorer,
> and still when I attempt to open the mny file that contains my entire
> financial life, i get prompted for this apparent phantom password.
> So I fall back and punt. I see there are several *.M12 files witht he same
> file name as the mny one that I want to open. They apear to be of a fairly
> recent date - dec 2005 --, so I've attempted to open those. (Apparently
> *.M12 is a Money 2004 backup file. I don't have Money 2004 . . .I have
> 2003
> from which I upgraded to 2005 . . .) When I attempt to restore the file
> through Money 2005 which is supposed to be backwards compatible, I get
> prompted to give the restored file a name, and then .. .drum roll ...I get
> prompted "sign into money" using the passport.
> If i cannot open the mny file or the backup files, I will have to re-enter
> by hand every transaction for multiple checking and credit card accounts .
> .
> .not my idea of fun! I wonder whether I need to open the files from the
> place they'd been . . .(the mapped drive) or whether I can put them in a
> new
> directory. Anywhoo .. .neither way seems to work.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm on the verge of giving up and
> doing massive data entry by hand. Microsoft support through their chat
> feature online was useless, BTW, further wasting my time. The tech person
> was unaware of the issue and kept claiming my files were corrupted.
> Best,
> KB --
> Krista



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Old 01-17-2006, 09:20 PM
Krista Bradford
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Default Money 2003 - Money 2005 phantom password restore issue

I thought I had resolved this issue previously, but it appears not.

I had Money 2005 Small Business installed on a laptop that died. It had been
upgraded, full install, from a Money 2003 Deluxe & Business version. I
parked my data files on a mapped drive on another computer . . .previously I
had XP professional on my laptop. Now I'm running XP Home.

Upon reinstalling the software I get prompted for a password. When I enter
what I know to be correct (because I'd written said password down), the file
does not open. Neither trying the password nor checking the "I do not need
to use online services" works. Next, I am prompted that either the file is
read only (it is not), that Money cannot find the file (I have shown money
where the file is) or that it cannot be opened (duh . . .the password bug!)

So here's my situation. I have an mny file I cannot open because of the
above mentioned issue. I attempted to install 2005 on my new laptop system
running xp home. I let money update by opening Sample through My Explorer,
and still when I attempt to open the mny file that contains my entire
financial life, i get prompted for this apparent phantom password.

So I fall back and punt. I see there are several *.M12 files witht he same
file name as the mny one that I want to open. They apear to be of a fairly
recent date - dec 2005 --, so I've attempted to open those. (Apparently
*.M12 is a Money 2004 backup file. I don't have Money 2004 . . .I have 2003
from which I upgraded to 2005 . . .) When I attempt to restore the file
through Money 2005 which is supposed to be backwards compatible, I get
prompted to give the restored file a name, and then .. .drum roll ...I get
prompted "sign into money" using the passport.

If i cannot open the mny file or the backup files, I will have to re-enter
by hand every transaction for multiple checking and credit card accounts . .
..not my idea of fun! I wonder whether I need to open the files from the
place they'd been . . .(the mapped drive) or whether I can put them in a new
directory. Anywhoo .. .neither way seems to work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'm on the verge of giving up and
doing massive data entry by hand. Microsoft support through their chat
feature online was useless, BTW, further wasting my time. The tech person
was unaware of the issue and kept claiming my files were corrupted.

Best,
KB --


Krista
 

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