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Old 01-31-2006, 12:57 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

In microsoft.public.money, Chris Cowles wrote:

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> "Mike" <mkahmann[at]adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:43debb09$0$7471$9a6e19ea[at]unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > Cal,
> > > Thanks for the info. It worked. Never thought of that. Figured once I

> > disabled it, I was a gonner. Restored the backup and I'm back in
> > business.
> > Wish Microsoft would have had this bit of info. They were actually
> > useless.
> > Tech support said they had lots of calls regarding this problem, but would
> > not be addressed till the 2007 update, if then.

> I imagine many users don't even have backups to restore with.


I suspect that Money 2006's multiple backup scheme is the savior in
many cases.

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Old 01-31-2006, 12:40 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

"Mike" <mkahmann[at]adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:43debb09$0$7471$9a6e19ea[at]unlimited.newshosting.com...
- quote -

> Cal,
> Thanks for the info. It worked. Never thought of that. Figured once I
> disabled it, I was a gonner. Restored the backup and I'm back in
> business.
> Wish Microsoft would have had this bit of info. They were actually
> useless.
> Tech support said they had lots of calls regarding this problem, but would
> not be addressed till the 2007 update, if then.


I imagine many users don't even have backups to restore with.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL



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Old 01-31-2006, 12:19 AM
Mike
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

Cal,

Thanks for the info. It worked. Never thought of that. Figured once I
disabled it, I was a gonner. Restored the backup and I'm back in business.
Wish Microsoft would have had this bit of info. They were actually useless.
Tech support said they had lots of calls regarding this problem, but would
not be addressed till the 2007 update, if then.

Thanks for your help. This newsgroup is full of information from people
like yourself. You do a great service.

Thanks again.....

Mike
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:41 PM
Mark
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

It depends upon what you mean by "disable".
If you simply disable online services for MSN Bill Pay within Money, then it
will still be available if you re-enable "Access Money on the Web" within
Money when using the same Passport that had that MSN Bill Pay subscription.

If you either deleted that Passport, are using a different Passport, or
called CheckFree to "cancel" the MSN Bill Pay service, then yes, you could
lose access. There's a reference about this on
http://moneycentral.msn.com/common/networkstatus.asp

-Mark


"Mike" <mike_in_93012[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43de926c$0$7544$9a6e19ea[at]unlimited.newshosting.com...
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> Don't disable bill pay. You will not get it back. Of course I held off,
> until today. Thought I would give it a try. What a mistake. You loose

the
> ability to use bill pay in Money. You must go to the msn bill pay site,
> enter your payments and they may, I repeat may, be imported into money.

No
> guarantee they will be imported. That is the word from tech support. No
> fix till 2007 edition. I asked why they didn't send out an email to all
> registered user of money or put it in a billpay enote. No answer.....
> I have used it for years. Now I am out of luck. May just switch to
> anouther bill pay that I know will import automatically.
> Mike



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Old 01-30-2006, 09:55 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

In microsoft.public.money, Mike wrote:

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> Don't disable bill pay. You will not get it back. Of course I held off,
> until today. Thought I would give it a try. What a mistake.


Have you tried restoring yesterday's Money backup?
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:26 PM
Mike
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

Don't disable bill pay. You will not get it back. Of course I held off,
until today. Thought I would give it a try. What a mistake. You loose the
ability to use bill pay in Money. You must go to the msn bill pay site,
enter your payments and they may, I repeat may, be imported into money. No
guarantee they will be imported. That is the word from tech support. No
fix till 2007 edition. I asked why they didn't send out an email to all
registered user of money or put it in a billpay enote. No answer.....

I have used it for years. Now I am out of luck. May just switch to
anouther bill pay that I know will import automatically.

Mike
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Old 01-15-2006, 06:44 PM
jim
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

Yes, I am indeed aprehensive, you compeltely nailed my concern and my
course of action (do nothing).

Thanks for the reply, it definetely helps validate my frustration.

Jim


On 15 Jan 2006 05:01:05 -0800, johnbusc[at]hotmail.com wrote:

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> jim,
> Recent versions of Money incorporate the ability to use a third-party
> service to download balance and transaction data into Money for those
> banks and other financial institutions (FI's) that don't support direct
> connection with Money for that purpose. By "direct connection" I mean
> one doesn't have to logon to the FI's site to import balance and
> transaction data.
> In order to use the third-party service, Microsoft requires the user to
> setup their Money file so that the Money account data is accessible
> through the MSN website. This requires a .NET Passport and is why you
> are being asked to disable online services with the billpay service,
> which, when Money 2006 was released, also required a .NET Passport.
> Recently, there were changes to the MSN Billpay service and the way
> existing Money users access the billpay service. These changes
> presently prevent any new users from setting up direct billpay access
> through Money. Therefore, I am not certain what you might encounter if
> you were to proceed in your attempt to setup ING and PayPal. I would
> certainly be apprehensive about proceeding for fear of not getting the
> billpay function back! You may want to stick with the manual download
> capability that both ING and PayPal provide. Good Luck!
> Regards,
> JB
> jim wrote:
> > Why in the world is Money 2006 (and Money 2004 prior) insisting that I
> > disable MSN Billpay during my attemp to add paypal and ING transaction
> > downloads? They have NOTHING to do with my MSN Billpay account?
> > > I don't use online access to my accounts, don't want it, never did...

> > but it keeps telling me how wonderful this access will be when all I
> > want to do is download transactions in these two accounts...
> > > Thanks for any explanations and/or workarounds!


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Old 01-15-2006, 12:01 PM
johnbusc@hotmail.com
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

jim,

Recent versions of Money incorporate the ability to use a third-party
service to download balance and transaction data into Money for those
banks and other financial institutions (FI's) that don't support direct
connection with Money for that purpose. By "direct connection" I mean
one doesn't have to logon to the FI's site to import balance and
transaction data.

In order to use the third-party service, Microsoft requires the user to
setup their Money file so that the Money account data is accessible
through the MSN website. This requires a .NET Passport and is why you
are being asked to disable online services with the billpay service,
which, when Money 2006 was released, also required a .NET Passport.

Recently, there were changes to the MSN Billpay service and the way
existing Money users access the billpay service. These changes
presently prevent any new users from setting up direct billpay access
through Money. Therefore, I am not certain what you might encounter if
you were to proceed in your attempt to setup ING and PayPal. I would
certainly be apprehensive about proceeding for fear of not getting the
billpay function back! You may want to stick with the manual download
capability that both ING and PayPal provide. Good Luck!

Regards,
JB

jim wrote:
- quote -

> Why in the world is Money 2006 (and Money 2004 prior) insisting that I
> disable MSN Billpay during my attemp to add paypal and ING transaction
> downloads? They have NOTHING to do with my MSN Billpay account?
> I don't use online access to my accounts, don't want it, never did...
> but it keeps telling me how wonderful this access will be when all I
> want to do is download transactions in these two accounts...
> Thanks for any explanations and/or workarounds!


 
Old 01-15-2006, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:11:36 GMT, jim <jburlis[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Why in the world is Money 2006 (and Money 2004 prior) insisting that I
> disable MSN Billpay during my attemp to add paypal and ING transaction
> downloads? They have NOTHING to do with my MSN Billpay account?
> I don't use online access to my accounts, don't want it, never did...
> but it keeps telling me how wonderful this access will be when all I
> want to do is download transactions in these two accounts...
> Thanks for any explanations and/or workarounds!


Here's the exact message I receive... this is during the process to
provide sign in info for either ING or PayPal, not to setup online
account access. Doh.

To set up Money so you can see your data from any computer, you must
first disable MSN Bill Pay in Money. Go to the account list, and then
click Manage online services in the left pane. Click MSN Bill Pay,
click Stop using MSN Bill Pay in Money, and then follow the
instructions on the screen.

After you disable MSN Bill Pay, return here to activate the service
that allows you to see your data from any computer. Your MSN Bill Pay
service will be reactivated in Money once you complete this process.

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Old 01-15-2006, 03:11 AM
jim
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Default disable msn billpay in order to download transactions?!

Why in the world is Money 2006 (and Money 2004 prior) insisting that I
disable MSN Billpay during my attemp to add paypal and ING transaction
downloads? They have NOTHING to do with my MSN Billpay account?

I don't use online access to my accounts, don't want it, never did...
but it keeps telling me how wonderful this access will be when all I
want to do is download transactions in these two accounts...

Thanks for any explanations and/or workarounds!
 

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