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Old 02-21-2006, 11:52 AM
William R Wood
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Yes, you are right about the risk. Roboform is my most important software
security-wise. If some criminal gets my login info I am screwed bigtime.

I am in favor of the death penalty for indentity thieves and other internet
hackers who cause more grief and disruption to more people than murders.

Could what you see in your log be Roboform checking for automatic updates or
something like that? Can you tell from the log whether data is actually
being sent from your computer to/from Siber.com?

Thanks for the tip, I intend to run this down and find out what is going on.

Regards

Bill Wood



"Bob" <bobsjunkmail[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> 10.33.90.10 3392
> Some days it talks never or once. Other days, it talks alot. I use it. It
> works. But it could be spyware. It could be worse. Remember, we teach it
> EXACTLY how to log into our financial accounts. It only has to transmit a
> tiny bit of data to pass that info along.




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Old 02-20-2006, 04:11 AM
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"William R Wood" <secret[at]???.net> wrote in message
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> No, I did not know Roboform was talking to its website. How do you see
> that happening? If I can confirm that is happening I will call the
> company and find out what is happening.
> Regards,
> Bill Wood

You can call them, and you can email them, but they won't answer the
question. Here's a chunk of logs from my router:

WallReViewer - as of 2/20/2006 12:05:39 AM Eastern Standard Time (Timestamps
are Local Time)
Date Time Dir Prot Rem IP Addr Remote Name
R Port Lcl IP Addr L Port
2006/02/19 09:08:18 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 2299
2006/02/19 12:33:06 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 1036
2006/02/19 12:34:55 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 1042
2006/02/19 12:34:56 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 1043
2006/02/19 12:57:30 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 1314
2006/02/19 13:28:18 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 1447
2006/02/19 23:45:38 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 3383
2006/02/19 23:47:00 O tcp 66.98.236.114 mail.siber.com
80 10.33.90.10 3392

Some days it talks never or once. Other days, it talks alot. I use it. It
works. But it could be spyware. It could be worse. Remember, we teach it
EXACTLY how to log into our financial accounts. It only has to transmit a
tiny bit of data to pass that info along.



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Old 02-19-2006, 11:11 PM
William R Wood
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Default Re: MoneySide gone for good?

No, I did not know Roboform was talking to its website. How do you see that
happening? If I can confirm that is happening I will call the company and
find out what is happening.

Regards,

Bill Wood


"Bob" <bobsjunkmail[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "William R Wood" <secret[at]???.net> wrote in message
> news:O5CrvDLGGHA.1288[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Joan,
> > > Try Roboform for storing passwords, login info, card numbers and other

> > info for use when banking or shopping online. One click and you can
> > login securely to any site and one more click and the software will fill
> > in long forms with your name, address, card no etc etc. All of your
> > passwords are encrypted and super secure and you only have to remember
> > one password to access everything. One of the best and most truly useful
> > programs I have ever used.
> > > Moneyside is pathetic by comparison.

> Have you been able to figure out what Roboform is sending in it's
> backchannel communications? Watch it, and you'll see that it talks
> periodically to roboform.com in a completely encrypted format. Asking them
> what it's sending yielded no response. It could be dumping exact login
> instructions to your accounts to be used later.



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Old 02-19-2006, 05:58 PM
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"William R Wood" <secret[at]???.net> wrote in message
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> Joan,
> Try Roboform for storing passwords, login info, card numbers and other
> info for use when banking or shopping online. One click and you can login
> securely to any site and one more click and the software will fill in long
> forms with your name, address, card no etc etc. All of your passwords are
> encrypted and super secure and you only have to remember one password to
> access everything. One of the best and most truly useful programs I have
> ever used.
> Moneyside is pathetic by comparison.


Have you been able to figure out what Roboform is sending in it's
backchannel communications? Watch it, and you'll see that it talks
periodically to roboform.com in a completely encrypted format. Asking them
what it's sending yielded no response. It could be dumping exact login
instructions to your accounts to be used later.


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Old 01-16-2006, 03:27 AM
Joan
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:19:15 -0700, "William R Wood" <secret[at]???.netwrote:

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> Joan,
> Try Roboform for storing passwords, login info, card numbers and other info
> for use when banking or shopping online. One click and you can login
> securely to any site and one more click and the software will fill in long
> forms with your name, address, card no etc etc. All of your passwords are
> encrypted and super secure and you only have to remember one password to
> access everything. One of the best and most truly useful programs I have
> ever used.
> Moneyside is pathetic by comparison.


Thanks Bill, I'll give it a try. I've got the toolbar from Google that
stores info but wasn't sure how secure it would be. Discover has a
nice little app that produces a virtual number for purchases but now
my security package thinks it's spyware and I have to disable the real
time spyware checking to be able to use it. It's always something!


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Old 01-14-2006, 01:19 AM
William R Wood
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Default Re: MoneySide gone for good?

Joan,

Try Roboform for storing passwords, login info, card numbers and other info
for use when banking or shopping online. One click and you can login
securely to any site and one more click and the software will fill in long
forms with your name, address, card no etc etc. All of your passwords are
encrypted and super secure and you only have to remember one password to
access everything. One of the best and most truly useful programs I have
ever used.

Moneyside is pathetic by comparison.



Regards,

Bill Wood
Fountain Hills, AZ


"Joan" <jrodenbaugh[at]adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:56:51 -0700, "Dick Watson"
> <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:
> > In answer to your questions.
> > > Gone for good? Probably. You are one of very, very few people to visit the

> > NG who didn't find the thing somewhere between useless and downright
> > creepy.

> Useless no, not for me, it was a great place to stash login info and
> card numbers. Probably now considered another security risk. Creepy?
> Maybe just as creepy as the thought of so many people keeping their
> account info on the MSMoney servers. Now that's what I call creepy.
> Thanks.



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Old 01-13-2006, 08:06 PM
Joan
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:56:51 -0700, "Dick Watson"
<littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:

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> In answer to your questions.
> Gone for good? Probably. You are one of very, very few people to visit the
> NG who didn't find the thing somewhere between useless and downright creepy.


Useless no, not for me, it was a great place to stash login info and
card numbers. Probably now considered another security risk. Creepy?
Maybe just as creepy as the thought of so many people keeping their
account info on the MSMoney servers. Now that's what I call creepy.
Thanks.



 
Old 01-13-2006, 07:56 PM
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In answer to your questions.

Gone for good? Probably. You are one of very, very few people to visit the
NG who didn't find the thing somewhere between useless and downright creepy.

Install from M02 CD? Probably not. It wouldn't know anything about an M06
file, even if it were separately installable. The interfaces it called in
Money probably aren't even there anymore.

"Joan" <jrodenbaugh[at]adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> I know some considered this a pain, but today I went to use the
> browser plug-in Moneyside and it was gone. I didn't realize that
> upgrading to 06 would kill it. It came in handy when online shopping
> since I could store card info into it. Anyway to just install
> Moneyside from the 2002 disc?



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Old 01-13-2006, 07:41 PM
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Hi,
I know some considered this a pain, but today I went to use the
browser plug-in Moneyside and it was gone. I didn't realize that
upgrading to 06 would kill it. It came in handy when online shopping
since I could store card info into it. Anyway to just install
Moneyside from the 2002 disc?

Joan
 

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