OMG... well I archived 98 to 2002 Dec... and just today tried to pull it
up... ONLY 2001 shows!!! Unfortunately we may be looking at an IRS audit for
2002.

I could just strangle that tech guy that told me I needed to do so because
my 5 year old file was too big!!! Wasn't the problem of course.

Thank goodness I still have many many cd's with backups. Lets hope the
backup gods were good to me. XX fingers crossed.

Carole



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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As do I.

But I do not need to use Money Archive to create a relevant file. I already
have one. It's my Money data file.

"dougsan" <dougsan[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I do agree with all you have stated Mr. Watson. The "archive" file is
nothing more than a numerical addition to the longish list of archived MSM
files. In short, it looks nice to me to have a file for every year. Dumb?
Without question. But it makes me happy.

And I do have copies of all relevent files backed up off my computer.
--
All the world''s a stage

If all of your data is still in the current environment, what does the "2005
Archive" file do for you? If your intent is just to save a benchmark copy
for disaster recovery, why archive? Why not just burn a copy off to CD and
file that away? And once you get over that, then why archive in any case? I
can still print a report for 1993's activity in Money if I need/want to.

"dougsan" <dougsan[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Someone has to say this: I have used MS Money (MSM) since it was first
offered. I am not in love with it but I prefer it to all the other packages
of its ilk I have tried.

Every year when I have completed my taxes I run archive and it has worked
beautifully - until this year! MSM 2005 Standard created an archive file but
it did not remove any data from the original so it was a waste of time.
Nothing was damaged but the action accomplished nothing of value to me!

MSM product support suggested I repair the application and try again. I
did. Same result. So I made a copy of the original MSN file for 2005 and
called it 2005 Archive. I am living with the "full" MSN file for 2006 and am
adjusting to "the messy environment."

In short, why archive if nothing happens!

"Howie" <nothere[at]this.time> wrote in message
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Dunno. Not much.

Back when I was using MoneyCounts (well before Money 97) the archive
function in it actually was useful. When you archived off some transactions
as of a certain date, all transactions from that period were deleted from
the current file, and all transactions after that date were not in the
archive file. Of course, I did not have investments to consider IRR on from
initial purchase, so it didn't much matter.

I think MYM may also have had a better archive system, and it did handle
investments rather well.

Disk is cheap. There's not a lot of performance benefit in archiving so, in
Money, not much justification. I got far more performance improvement from
'starting over' and importing all my accounts to a new file. I do NOT
recommend that unless you know well what you're doing, but there are
definite benefits.
--
Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:02:22 -0700, "Dick Watson"
<littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote:

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Why in the world is this option available? What value does it
provide?

Just curious,


--Howie

Dick Watson wrote:
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I could have used this advice about a year ago when I unwittingly
archived my data file, thinking it was a good thing no less, and
trashed my file. That has led me to just begin again this year, this
very weekend, after a year of struggling to balance my friggin'
checkbook which was the very task I started using the computer to do
finances for in the first place.

Believe the hype -- do not archive your data.

To recover the lost data: rename the after-archive data file "useless
junk.mny". Rename the "archive" file "My Complete Money Data File.mny". Open
My Complete Money Data File. Add data you've added to the file since
archiving. Forget about archiving in the future.

"JmesDean" <JmesDean[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Where were you before I did this!?

Dick and many other long time Money users have been right HERE
continually telling people NOT to archive. Where were YOU?

Steve

Where were you before I did this!? Opened up 2005 "Archive" to run year-end
reports and am missing almost half the year. I'm ready to throw this 'puter
out the window! Any ideas or advice on how to recover the lost data or am I
just another victim of Microsoft's neverending game?

"Steve" wrote:

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What's designed to happen is that Money makes an exact copy of your file as
it is and calls it the archive. Then it deletes most, but not all,
transactions prior to the archive date you specified that are in the
original data file. It is supposed to adjust account beginning balances to
compensate for the removed transactions. Usually it does this correctly. The
resulting file may be somewhat smaller. Few find Money works faster with it.

The real issues, besides that sometimes it doesn't work as well as just
described, are that 1) the "archive" and the ongoing file overlap--duplicate
some of the transaction data, 2) there is no way to put the two back
together, 3) any data searches you want to do in the future involve looking
in both files, and 4) the "archive" file is stuck at the version level when
it was created unless you upgrade it along with your ongoing data file when
you move to future versions of Money.

<yooperz[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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OK, after so many agreed with you over this, I will at all costs avoid
archiving MS Money data. Out of curiousity, what happens when a person
archives Money data? Obviously something nasty -- I take it the
archived data can't be used or something?

Thanks,
Shelley

Steve wrote:
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Amen once more.
"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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I made that mistake in 2000 thinking I could speed it up... and what a bear
it was trying to patch it all back together. Good thing the salv tool
doesn't find any file errors now..it's been broken up and fixed alot up to
2004.

Glenn B.

"Recovering MS Money User"

"Steve" <sjcohen730[at]aol.com> wrote in message
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Add me to the Amen choir!

"Steve" <sjcohen730[at]aol.com> wrote in message
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"Steve" <sjcohen730[at]aol.com> wrote:

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Amen. I made the mistake of archiving 2 accounts that I closed in
1996 or 1997. WHat a mess that was. Now, I just happily live with
my 50MB file size that increases each year.
--
_____________________________________
Ed Hansberry
email - ed.hansberry[at]mvps.org
IM - silvernino[at]hotmail.com
My high-tech web page - http://www.ehansberry.com/

With year end quickly approaching this topic is intended for those
users of Microsoft Money who might intend to archive their 2005 data.
Do NOT do it. It will NOT do what you would think archiving a file
should do. All you have to do is continue using Microsoft Money
normally. The program can report your data by each year. It is
important that ALL your data remains in ONE current file. Back-up your
data on a regular basis, but don't archive. If the program runs slow,
don't assume that it is because of too much data in your file and by
archiving you will save space. Good luck. Steve