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Old 11-24-2005, 09:15 PM
Cal Learner
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Pb wrote:

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> "Even before that, having roaming and a Passport does quite put your
> data "on the web" as a public site. While roaming makes your data
> accessible via browser, it is a secure connection like what you have
> to your bank's website."


Dang. I did not mean to write that. I meant to say does NOT
quite.....

The site is NOT public. You need the Passport credential to view the
site.


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> This is where I was trying to go! Any way to shut off (eliminate sync) or
> is this just a "convenience" that they feel we all want and it can't be shut
> off!
> Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!

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Old 11-24-2005, 07:10 PM
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"Even before that, having roaming and a Passport does quite put your
data "on the web" as a public site. While roaming makes your data
accessible via browser, it is a secure connection like what you have
to your bank's website."

This is where I was trying to go! Any way to shut off (eliminate sync) or
is this just a "convenience" that they feel we all want and it can't be shut
off!

Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!

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Old 11-22-2005, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet


"Treadmill" <treadmill23nospam[at]email.com> wrote in message
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> > > From what it says, it certainly seems that new MSN Billpay accounts pay
> > > directly in Money.
> > > What words cause you to infer that?

> > Sorry, what I meant to say is that MSN Billpay accounts DON'T pay directly

> in Money. Lost that one word there...


"Existing accounts will continue to work as they have previously (using sync
with MSN Money and your Passport),... "

But that seems to be true only for existing accounts.


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Old 11-21-2005, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:45:48 -0600, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Treadmill wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:56:28 -0600, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > > > http://moneycentral.msn.com/common/networkstatus.asp
> > > From what it says, it certainly seems that new MSN Billpay accounts pay

> > directly in Money.

> What words cause you to infer that?

Sorry, what I meant to say is that MSN Billpay accounts DON'T pay directly
in Money. Lost that one word there...
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> > > Given that my new billpay account appears to be directly with Checkfree, is
> > there perhaps going to be another way to get a direct Checkfree account
> > other than MSN?

> I don't know how long https://mycheckfree.com/ has been there.

Mycheckfree looks like it only for eBills, not for any bill.

However, for years as a Quicken user I had a checkfree account that I could
deal directly with Checkfree, even when there was no obviously way to get
that type of account from Quicken or the Checkfree web site. They actually
had an 800 number staffed with helpful people! I only switched off Quicken
when they stopped supporting QIF file.

TM
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:45 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Treadmill wrote:

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> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:56:28 -0600, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
> > http://moneycentral.msn.com/common/networkstatus.asp

> From what it says, it certainly seems that new MSN Billpay accounts pay
> directly in Money.


What words cause you to infer that?

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> Given that my new billpay account appears to be directly with Checkfree, is
> there perhaps going to be another way to get a direct Checkfree account
> other than MSN?


I don't know how long https://mycheckfree.com/ has been there.



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Old 11-21-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:56:28 -0600, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

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From what it says, it certainly seems that new MSN Billpay accounts pay
directly in Money.

Given that my new billpay account appears to be directly with Checkfree, is
there perhaps going to be another way to get a direct Checkfree account
other than MSN?

TM
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:56 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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> I'm no expert in this, so forgive any ignorance exposed by the following
> questions.


http://moneycentral.msn.com/common/networkstatus.asp has some
information on the change.

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Old 11-21-2005, 06:58 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Dick Watson wrote:

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> Are you saying that an M04/5/6 user who sets up a new MSN Bill Pay account
> will be unable to do so in any way that is directly integrated with the
> local Money application and that such a setup would only be via MSN Money on
> the Web (which just happens to be able to sync back with your local Money
> copy)?
> Will such a user be able to enter an epay transaction in their local
> Money register and sync it with the web after which the bill pay service
> pays it?


I was not trying to imply what you said. I would wait to see what
MSN and CheckFree say in the next several days.

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Old 11-21-2005, 06:38 PM
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I'm no expert in this, so forgive any ignorance exposed by the following
questions.

Are you saying that an M04/5/6 user who sets up a new MSN Bill Pay account
will be unable to do so in any way that is directly integrated with the
local Money application and that such a setup would only be via MSN Money on
the Web (which just happens to be able to sync back with your local Money
copy)? Will such a user be able to enter an epay transaction in their local
Money register and sync it with the web after which the bill pay service
pays it? Or is a separate web session directly with MSN Bill Pay
involved--i.e., little or no value-add from the local copy of Money?

It sounds like the camel is going another step beyond merely sticking its
nose in the tent. To mix a metaphor, it's another handful of nails in the
coffin of Money as a standalone app installed on your machine and under your
control. That's not to say I don't understand and, at some level,
appreciate, their motive...

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> ...that ability will not
> apply to new accounts set up for MSN Bill Pay accounts. For those
> new accounts, you will NOT be able to download it into existing
> versions of Money. You will only be able to use MSN Bill Pay on the
> web.



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Old 11-21-2005, 05:21 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

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> After the recent changes, the bill pay will be using the regular OFX
> interface, and will not require that you have a Passport or roaming
> set up on your file.


I was incorrect in that statement. To continue to do the access to
MSN Bill Pay via Microsoft Money, you will need a Passport on your
file, and you will need Roaming enabled.

Also, the ability to do that will only apply to pre-existing
accounts (your account is grandfathered), and that ability will not
apply to new accounts set up for MSN Bill Pay accounts. For those
new accounts, you will NOT be able to download it into existing
versions of Money. You will only be able to use MSN Bill Pay on the
web.

If you currently have MSN Bill Pay working, change your password as
directed. But don't disable it for online access in your Money
file.


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Old 11-21-2005, 03:48 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Chris Cowles wrote:

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> "Pb" <Pb[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0D109F85-F682-46CF-AF93-0FD5FF35DD7E[at]microsoft.com...
> > Cal, thanks, but I guess I am not understanding the process, as when I
> > checked this, the setup button was grayed out and I do not want to sync. I
> > do
> > not want to access from any computer nor do I want any of my history shown
> > there either. I was unaware that this was there until I went to the
> > BillPay
> > site due to the recent changes to the Bill pay process.

> My understanding is that, if you use MSN Billpay, your data will be on the
> web. Others may correct my misunderstanding.


After the recent changes, the bill pay will be using the regular OFX
interface, and will not require that you have a Passport or roaming
set up on your file.

Even before that, having roaming and a Passport does quite put your
data "on the web" as a public site. While roaming makes your data
accessible via browser, it is a secure connection like what you have
to your bank's website.
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

"Pb" <Pb[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Cal, thanks, but I guess I am not understanding the process, as when I
> checked this, the setup button was grayed out and I do not want to sync. I
> do
> not want to access from any computer nor do I want any of my history shown
> there either. I was unaware that this was there until I went to the
> BillPay
> site due to the recent changes to the Bill pay process.


My understanding is that, if you use MSN Billpay, your data will be on the
web. Others may correct my misunderstanding.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL



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Old 11-20-2005, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

Cal, thanks, but I guess I am not understanding the process, as when I
checked this, the setup button was grayed out and I do not want to sync. I do
not want to access from any computer nor do I want any of my history shown
there either. I was unaware that this was there until I went to the BillPay
site due to the recent changes to the Bill pay process.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Pb wrote:
> > Is it possible to "turn off" the internet portion of MSN BillPay and still
> > maintain the functionality within Money? ie not have all my transactions
> > listed on the internet??

> Check Tools-> Settings-> AccessYourMoneyDataOnTheWeb

 
Old 11-20-2005, 02:34 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MSN Bill Pay on Internet

In microsoft.public.money, Pb wrote:

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> Is it possible to "turn off" the internet portion of MSN BillPay and still
> maintain the functionality within Money? ie not have all my transactions
> listed on the internet??


Check Tools-> Settings-> AccessYourMoneyDataOnTheWeb
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Old 11-20-2005, 02:28 PM
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Default MSN Bill Pay on Internet

Is it possible to "turn off" the internet portion of MSN BillPay and still
maintain the functionality within Money? ie not have all my transactions
listed on the internet??
 

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