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Old 11-15-2005, 01:14 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Ian wrote:

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> Yes, but TR only seem to give %. Am I missing something?
> I've been using appreciation as a proxy for unrealized gains but it really
> doesn't balance, and I can't for the life of me figure out why...
> Seems like there has to be a way to do this. I can't be the first person to
> want to balance net worth with income and expenses...


Also see the Performance by Investment Account report. Customize the
date and other factors to your preferences.

You could perhaps paste two or more reports into Excel to combine
data.

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Old 11-15-2005, 01:04 AM
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In microsoft.public.money, Ian wrote:

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> Yes, but TR only seem to give %. Am I missing something?

You are right. Those are in %.
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> I've been using appreciation as a proxy for unrealized gains but it really
> doesn't balance, and I can't for the life of me figure out why...


Price appreciation does not include dividends, but the Gain column
does. Neither of those are for the last year, however.


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> Seems like there has to be a way to do this. I can't be the first person to
> want to balance net worth with income and expenses...


I think you might be.

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Old 11-15-2005, 12:36 AM
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Yes, but TR only seem to give %. Am I missing something?

I've been using appreciation as a proxy for unrealized gains but it really
doesn't balance, and I can't for the life of me figure out why...

Seems like there has to be a way to do this. I can't be the first person to
want to balance net worth with income and expenses...

Cheers,
Ian

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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> In microsoft.public.money, Ian wrote:
> > > Let me ask it this way...Is there a way to total up unrealized gains for a

> > given period? I've only seen reports that total it from the date of
> > purchase of the asset until an "as-of" date. I cannot discern the unrealized
> > gain/loss over the last year, for example.

> Do you have the Total Return YTD (TR YTD) and Year (TR Yr) columns
> configured in for your Portfolio view?

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Old 11-14-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Financial Question

In microsoft.public.money, Ian wrote:

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> Let me ask it this way...Is there a way to total up unrealized gains for a
> given period? I've only seen reports that total it from the date of
> purchase of the asset until an "as-of" date. I cannot discern the unrealized
> gain/loss over the last year, for example.


Do you have the Total Return YTD (TR YTD) and Year (TR Yr) columns
configured in for your Portfolio view?


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Old 11-14-2005, 09:07 PM
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Good feedback - thanks.

I have the same strategy and account for all my activity too. I think
you're right...the net worth calculation is accurate - at least I have no
reason to doubt it. I'm just looking for a way to drill down on what changed
over the period.

Let me ask it this way...Is there a way to total up unrealized gains for a
given period? I've only seen reports that total it from the date of
purchase of the asset until an "as-of" date. I cannot discern the unrealized
gain/loss over the last year, for example.

Once again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Ian

"Steve" wrote:

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> Ian, net worth is the total of all the asset accounts less the total of
> all the liability accounts. That's the way Money looks at it. I account
> for all my activity and find the net worth report accurately reflects
> my net worth because I make sure everything is included. I don't think
> a income less expense basis will work in money. Steve

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Old 11-14-2005, 04:06 PM
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Ian, net worth is the total of all the asset accounts less the total of
all the liability accounts. That's the way Money looks at it. I account
for all my activity and find the net worth report accurately reflects
my net worth because I make sure everything is included. I don't think
a income less expense basis will work in money. Steve

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Old 11-14-2005, 03:44 PM
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In microsoft.public.money, Ian wrote:

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> Thanks for the response. From what I can tell, the net worth report just
> totals up account balances. I'm trying to reconcile Money much like you
> would a bank account:
> Previous net worth + changes = current net worth.
> I'd like to be able to get it to balance and then obviously drill down on
> the changes.


See if
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;176329
helps. I doubt it will be what you want, but it is available.

To get to the Account Transactions report later versions is under
the Income and Expenses heading.




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Old 11-14-2005, 03:27 PM
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Thanks for the response. From what I can tell, the net worth report just
totals up account balances. I'm trying to reconcile Money much like you
would a bank account:

Previous net worth + changes = current net worth.

I'd like to be able to get it to balance and then obviously drill down on
the changes.

Thanks, again
Ian

"Chris Cowles" wrote:

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> "Ian" <Ian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5822655F-25DA-4032-A25C-628FED71E739[at]microsoft.com...
> > I'm trying to do a simple reconciliation of my finances for the current
> > year.
> > Basically, the structure would look something like this:
> > > Net Worth 12/31/2004

> > + Income (including realized gains) for current year 2005
> > - Expenses for current year
> > + Unrealized gains (losses) for current year
> > = Net worth as of today
> > > Does this make sense? Does anyone know of a report that can provide this

> > and have it balance, or alternatively, where I can pull the numbers from
> > to
> > have it balance? I've tried different reports and I've tried pulling
> > numbers
> > from Money. But, I can't find a pre-defined report or seem to get the
> > numbers to balance and haven't been able to find anything in the FAQs.
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.

> Does the model Net Worth report not do that?

 
Old 11-14-2005, 02:29 AM
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"Ian" <Ian[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> I'm trying to do a simple reconciliation of my finances for the current
> year.
> Basically, the structure would look something like this:
> Net Worth 12/31/2004
> + Income (including realized gains) for current year 2005
> - Expenses for current year
> + Unrealized gains (losses) for current year
> = Net worth as of today
> Does this make sense? Does anyone know of a report that can provide this
> and have it balance, or alternatively, where I can pull the numbers from
> to
> have it balance? I've tried different reports and I've tried pulling
> numbers
> from Money. But, I can't find a pre-defined report or seem to get the
> numbers to balance and haven't been able to find anything in the FAQs.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Does the model Net Worth report not do that?


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Old 11-13-2005, 08:26 PM
Ian
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Default Financial Question

I'm trying to do a simple reconciliation of my finances for the current year.
Basically, the structure would look something like this:

Net Worth 12/31/2004
+ Income (including realized gains) for current year 2005
- Expenses for current year
+ Unrealized gains (losses) for current year
= Net worth as of today

Does this make sense? Does anyone know of a report that can provide this
and have it balance, or alternatively, where I can pull the numbers from to
have it balance? I've tried different reports and I've tried pulling numbers
from Money. But, I can't find a pre-defined report or seem to get the
numbers to balance and haven't been able to find anything in the FAQs.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Ian
 

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