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Old 10-15-2005, 04:51 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: IRA Reallocations Showing In YTD Estimated Capital Gains Tax S

In microsoft.public.money, Wanda wrote:

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> I am using Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe Version 14.0.120.1105.
> The problem data is on Taxes-> Capital Gains Estimator-> View action plan Year
> To Date data. The Proposed sale data is correct except for carry over
> long-term amount being used on Year To Date items that are not valid.


What did you mean by that? Are you saying the carry-forward amount
is not correct?

I don't know where the carry-forward amount comes from.

- quote -

> There
> is no taxes involved in reallocation existing contributions on an IRA
> rollover annuity.


So your problem is not with the "Proposed" section, but the problem
is with the "Year to date" section of the "Action Plan"?

And you somehow infer that some Sell in a particular tax deferred
account is affecting the "Year to date" section of the "View Action
Plan". And that when you "Select accounts", that tax deferred
account is not listed.


- quote -

> The YTD capital gains report is correct but does not agree
> with the View action plans tab's "Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summary" Year
> to date data.


And now you are contrasting with the "YTD Capital Gains" report.
Right? I tried it with my data, and the Gain/Loss numbers from the
Year to date matched the report.

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> I would have thought that the two would pull from the same
> information.
> Resetting the accounts makes no difference because the IRA Rollover account
> is not listed to select or deselect.


You are referring to the "Select accounts" I assume.

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> Even if I zero out all proposed sale
> accounts, the Year to date data in the View action plan tab's "Estimated
> Capital Gains Tax Summary" is incorrect.
> Do you have any ideas how why there is different Year To Date data between
> the YTD Capital Gains Report and the Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summary?


I think I am just getting more confused.

You might go ahead and try File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair
and maybe even make an extra backup and try
File-> RepairMoneyFile-> StandardFileRepair


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> Thank you for your time and previous response,
> Wanda
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:
> > In microsoft.public.money, Wanda wrote:
> > > > When I was using the Capital Gains Estimator Tool to estimate the taxes on
> > > some stocks and mutual funds I am thinking of saleing, I noticed that the
> > > Year To Date Short-Term and Long-Term data did not agree with the YTD Capital
> > > Gains Report.
> > > Is the problem data on (using Money 2006 path)

> > Taxes-> CapitalGainsEstimator-> EstimateCapitalGainsTax in the section
> > called ResultsOfProposed Sales? Or is the problem with the YTD
> > Capital > Gains Report?
> > > If it is the report, try Customize-> Reset. If that does not do it,

> > try Customize-> Reset-> Accounts, and de-select the accounts you do
> > not want included.
> > > If the problem is the Capital Gains Estimator, try clicking

> > SelectAccounts and de-select the accounts you do not want included.
> > > Note that the Capital Gains Estimator allows you to group by account

> > or position. It also is totaling up only the things you are
> > proposing to sell as indicated by a non-zero in the QtyToSell
> > column.
> > > > > > The difference is due to automated balancing transations in my IRA Rollover
> > > Annuity Account. The IRA account is setup as an Investment Retirement Tax
> > > Deferred account so I do not know why it is showing up in the report.
> > > > > > > > Steps I have taken to try and resolve the problem:
> > > > > 1. Check each annuity investment tax-deferred box.
> > > 2. Switch the account's details retirement and tax-deferred check boxes off
> > > and on.
> > > 3. Backed up existing file, deleted the IRA account and then rerun tax
> > > summary. It was correct which is why I know it is the IRA account.
> > > 4. Painstackingly re-entered all IRA account transations into a new account
> > > to see if that made any difference....NO
> > > That is a very rigorous processes and description. You might note

> > what version of Money you are using.
> > > > > > > I am at a lost of what else to try. I would like to use the Captial Gains
> > > Estimator tool without having to create my own spreadsheet. Any ideas what
> > > to try next?

>
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Old 10-14-2005, 07:41 PM
Wanda
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Default Re: IRA Reallocations Showing In YTD Estimated Capital Gains Tax S

I am using Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe Version 14.0.120.1105.

The problem data is on Taxes-> Capital Gains Estimator-> View action plan Year
To Date data. The Proposed sale data is correct except for carry over
long-term amount being used on Year To Date items that are not valid. There
is no taxes involved in reallocation existing contributions on an IRA
rollover annuity. The YTD capital gains report is correct but does not agree
with the View action plans tab's "Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summary" Year
to date data. I would have thought that the two would pull from the same
information.

Resetting the accounts makes no difference because the IRA Rollover account
is not listed to select or deselect. Even if I zero out all proposed sale
accounts, the Year to date data in the View action plan tab's "Estimated
Capital Gains Tax Summary" is incorrect.

Do you have any ideas how why there is different Year To Date data between
the YTD Capital Gains Report and the Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summary?

Thank you for your time and previous response,
Wanda

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Wanda wrote:
> > When I was using the Capital Gains Estimator Tool to estimate the taxes on
> > some stocks and mutual funds I am thinking of saleing, I noticed that the
> > Year To Date Short-Term and Long-Term data did not agree with the YTD Capital
> > Gains Report.

> Is the problem data on (using Money 2006 path)
> Taxes-> CapitalGainsEstimator-> EstimateCapitalGainsTax in the section
> called ResultsOfProposed Sales? Or is the problem with the YTD
> Capital > Gains Report?
> If it is the report, try Customize-> Reset. If that does not do it,
> try Customize-> Reset-> Accounts, and de-select the accounts you do
> not want included.
> If the problem is the Capital Gains Estimator, try clicking
> SelectAccounts and de-select the accounts you do not want included.
> Note that the Capital Gains Estimator allows you to group by account
> or position. It also is totaling up only the things you are
> proposing to sell as indicated by a non-zero in the QtyToSell
> column.
> > > The difference is due to automated balancing transations in my IRA Rollover

> > Annuity Account. The IRA account is setup as an Investment Retirement Tax
> > Deferred account so I do not know why it is showing up in the report.
> > > Steps I have taken to try and resolve the problem:
> > > 1. Check each annuity investment tax-deferred box.

> > 2. Switch the account's details retirement and tax-deferred check boxes off
> > and on.
> > 3. Backed up existing file, deleted the IRA account and then rerun tax
> > summary. It was correct which is why I know it is the IRA account.
> > 4. Painstackingly re-entered all IRA account transations into a new account
> > to see if that made any difference....NO

> That is a very rigorous processes and description. You might note
> what version of Money you are using.
> > > I am at a lost of what else to try. I would like to use the Captial Gains

> > Estimator tool without having to create my own spreadsheet. Any ideas what
> > to try next?

 
Old 10-13-2005, 03:34 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: IRA Reallocations Showing In YTD Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summa

In microsoft.public.money, Wanda wrote:

- quote -

> When I was using the Capital Gains Estimator Tool to estimate the taxes on
> some stocks and mutual funds I am thinking of saleing, I noticed that the
> Year To Date Short-Term and Long-Term data did not agree with the YTD Capital
> Gains Report.


Is the problem data on (using Money 2006 path)
Taxes-> CapitalGainsEstimator-> EstimateCapitalGainsTax in the section
called ResultsOfProposed Sales? Or is the problem with the YTD
Capital > Gains Report?

If it is the report, try Customize-> Reset. If that does not do it,
try Customize-> Reset-> Accounts, and de-select the accounts you do
not want included.

If the problem is the Capital Gains Estimator, try clicking
SelectAccounts and de-select the accounts you do not want included.

Note that the Capital Gains Estimator allows you to group by account
or position. It also is totaling up only the things you are
proposing to sell as indicated by a non-zero in the QtyToSell
column.

- quote -

> The difference is due to automated balancing transations in my IRA Rollover
> Annuity Account. The IRA account is setup as an Investment Retirement Tax
> Deferred account so I do not know why it is showing up in the report.




- quote -

> Steps I have taken to try and resolve the problem:
> 1. Check each annuity investment tax-deferred box.
> 2. Switch the account's details retirement and tax-deferred check boxes off
> and on.
> 3. Backed up existing file, deleted the IRA account and then rerun tax
> summary. It was correct which is why I know it is the IRA account.
> 4. Painstackingly re-entered all IRA account transations into a new account
> to see if that made any difference....NO


That is a very rigorous processes and description. You might note
what version of Money you are using.


- quote -

> I am at a lost of what else to try. I would like to use the Captial Gains
> Estimator tool without having to create my own spreadsheet. Any ideas what
> to try next?

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Old 10-13-2005, 06:39 AM
Wanda
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Default IRA Reallocations Showing In YTD Estimated Capital Gains Tax Summa

When I was using the Capital Gains Estimator Tool to estimate the taxes on
some stocks and mutual funds I am thinking of saleing, I noticed that the
Year To Date Short-Term and Long-Term data did not agree with the YTD Capital
Gains Report.

The difference is due to automated balancing transations in my IRA Rollover
Annuity Account. The IRA account is setup as an Investment Retirement Tax
Deferred account so I do not know why it is showing up in the report.

Steps I have taken to try and resolve the problem:

1. Check each annuity investment tax-deferred box.
2. Switch the account's details retirement and tax-deferred check boxes off
and on.
3. Backed up existing file, deleted the IRA account and then rerun tax
summary. It was correct which is why I know it is the IRA account.
4. Painstackingly re-entered all IRA account transations into a new account
to see if that made any difference....NO

I am at a lost of what else to try. I would like to use the Captial Gains
Estimator tool without having to create my own spreadsheet. Any ideas what
to try next?

Thank you for your help,
Wanda
 

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