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Old 10-13-2005, 06:51 PM
Clint
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> synchronization. Just before that line in the 2005 one (not got the 2006 one
> at hand) it says though you can turn it off. If they didn't put that in,
> then there would be a problem in that they need to do it.


It does give you the option to turn off internet-based services but, of
course, it is not clear how that will cripple the program because just about
everything you want to do today is connected to the internet. If I turn it
off, does that mean I can't get to my investment provider, etc? It's not
clear what is affected.

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> The EULA doesn't cover Microsoft's license or obligation (it's for the end
> user) - i can't see anything that would specifically allow them to spray the
> information across the net, as they would be bound by privacy laws, and
> would probably explicity require something in the EULA to allow them, which
> there isn't.


As you said, the EULA doesn't cover this but it does release MS from any
liability for the program (as is typical for the industry). There may be
privacy restrictions but they are not covered in the EULA being agreed to.

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> When speaking to the Microsoft Money people, their obligation on data
> protection is something they really take very seriously. The have other very
> tight licenses with third parties etc.


I agree, which is why I accepted the license and continued. However, the
EULA is clearly written to protect Microsoft and not me or my personal info.
Most of the EULA is standard, but I don't like the internet-based portion of
it. At all. I almost didn't continue past the license. I don't like that
the functionality ends in two years. I don't even know what functionality
that affects - I don't see a FAQ that details specifically what functionality
is affected. I do know that Microsoft takes privacy seriously, but I would
suggest that EULA be modified to reference privacy restrictions.

Thanks for the comments. I upgraded from Money 2004 and while there are
things I'd like to change and some bugs I'd like to stomp, it really is a
good program overall.
 
Old 10-13-2005, 07:41 AM
Glyn Simpson, MVP
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Default Re: License gives MS access to your account names, transactions, etc??

I think you're correct in implying that the EULA, how it is written, is for
synchronization. Just before that line in the 2005 one (not got the 2006 one
at hand) it says though you can turn it off. If they didn't put that in,
then there would be a problem in that they need to do it.

The EULA doesn't cover Microsoft's license or obligation (it's for the end
user) - i can't see anything that would specifically allow them to spray the
information across the net, as they would be bound by privacy laws, and
would probably explicity require something in the EULA to allow them, which
there isn't.

When speaking to the Microsoft Money people, their obligation on data
protection is something they really take very seriously. The have other very
tight licenses with third parties etc.

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"Clint" <Clint[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:11376949-A3AE-4452-8903-D35E02FFC19B[at]microsoft.com...
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> I just read the EULA on my new copy of Money 2006 and noticed a clause that
> reads
> "These features send to Microsoft information which may include, but is
> not
> limited to, account names, financial transactions, payees, budget limits
> and
> alert settings. By using these features, you consent to Microsoft's
> collection of this information. Examples of these Internet-Based Services
> are Accounts, Bills, and Budget."
> WHAT???!!!! I realize that this is probably required in order to support
> the synchronization and web access to your account in Money and other
> things
> but it was still a stunner and Microsoft's nice EULA holds them completely
> blameless if they spray your private info across the net. Not that they
> intend to. I hope. Your access to these internet-based features also
> expires in 2 years, forcing you to continue upgrading.
> Just so you know...



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Old 10-13-2005, 01:50 AM
Clint
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Default License gives MS access to your account names, transactions, etc??

I just read the EULA on my new copy of Money 2006 and noticed a clause that
reads

"These features send to Microsoft information which may include, but is not
limited to, account names, financial transactions, payees, budget limits and
alert settings. By using these features, you consent to Microsoft’s
collection of this information. Examples of these Internet-Based Services
are Accounts, Bills, and Budget."

WHAT???!!!! I realize that this is probably required in order to support
the synchronization and web access to your account in Money and other things
but it was still a stunner and Microsoft's nice EULA holds them completely
blameless if they spray your private info across the net. Not that they
intend to. I hope. Your access to these internet-based features also
expires in 2 years, forcing you to continue upgrading.

Just so you know...
 

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