"William R Wood" <secret[at]???.net> wrote in message
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In hindsight, yes; with foresight, no. I will use your method in the future
to prevent bills or deposits from becoming a problem, before deleting them.

<tim.morrow[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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That is bad news and makes my idea useless.


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Yes, this is infuriating. I had this happen to me before. I think it
happened when I tried to delete a scheduled bill. They don't really go away
when you delete them. I saved the day most times by reverting to a backup
copy of my file that predated the deletion. Then I used the "this bill will
end at some point" method of getting rid of a scheduled bill I no longer
wanted. I just used that trick to get rid of a stale bill a couple of days
ago, it definitely works.


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I never tried the category fix. That sounds easier than recreating your
file. MSFT should definitely fix this problem after all these many years.
If nothing else works, the export/import method of creating a new Money file
definitely works but it takes quite a bit of time.

Good luck

Bill Wood

All,

I suffer from the same "phantom" bill problem. I can tell you that the
problem is NOT fixed in Money 2006. I haven't gotten around to trying
the "recreate all your categories" solution that is mentioned elsewhere
(search this newsgroup for "phantom bill").

Bill, I was encouraged by the possibility of your suggestion working.
Unfortunately, when I go to the Budget summary, right-click the budget
category, click Edit then select the offending thing from the list,
clicking OK does _not_ open that bill for editing. Clicking OK simply
dismisses the dialog.

This seems to be core to the problem: The bill has gotten "lost" and
is no longer editable.

Not sure whether to got with the category fix or recreate my Money
file, which is about 6 years old now.

Tim

"Medrian" <medrian74[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If I understand what you are saying, there is a fix. Problem: you deleted a
bill from Bills and Deposits but the budget reports still show the budgeted
amounts for that item anyway. If that is correct, here is how to fix it.
Go into the budget summary (click budget icon) and right click the offending
budget item. Choose edit, a dialog will appear called Edit Category.
Select the incorrect item from the drop down list under A Bill in this
category. There may be two or more items in the drop down list so make sure
you select the rogue bill. Click ok. The deleted (rogue) bill pops up in
the Edit Bills dialog. Now the tricky part. Check the box in front of
"This series will end at some point in time". Put a date in the Date of
final transaction box that is in the past. I usually use 12/31 of the
previous year. Put zero in Number of transactions remaining. Finally put
12/31/xx, (the same date as This series will end at some point in time) in
the Next due date box. Click ok.. The rogue bill should be gone. I have
done this many times in Money 2002 and I think it will also work in 2004.
Sometimes Money does not like the zero in Number of transactions remaining
and changes it to one. Sometimes this prevents the bill from being
eliminated. If this happens let one remain and try again. If the bill
shows up on the Bills and Deposits list again you can manually enter it in
the register as the final transaction and then manually delete it from the
register. If you fiddle with the dates, this method will work. I have
never failed to eliminate a rogue bill this way.

I don't know if this issue has ever been fixed. MSFT tech support knows
about it since I reported this bug back in 2002.


Regards,

Bill Wood
Fountain Hills, AZ

Still have the phantom bill.. but managed to get the budget sorted
eventually with the category fix - seems I didn't quite get it right the
first time.

Regardless of this - is it fixed in 2006?

Now I've read all the newsgroup comments on phantom bills and duplicate
budget entries it seems to have been a LONG standing issue that it's really
about time Microsoft fixed!

Thanks.

Hi all,

I've got a problem in MS Money 2004 where there appears to be a rogue, ie.
missing bill payment that is not displayed in the bills and payments listing
but IS included in the budget.

I have trawled user groups and the MS knowledge base for fixes and the
category move for all historical transactions does not work in my case.

I've also tried deleting past budgets but it makes no difference.

There is still this one bill entry that when I try to edit it from the
budget screen, no bill payment details come up - it's as if the program has
lost the reference to it somehow.

Has anyone else experienced this and have any idea:
a) how to fix it?
b) if it is fixed in 2006?

Final comment - I tried to get online support from MS but the product ID is
apparently invalid so it won't let me through to e-mail them. NOT
impressed!

Thanks for any help, even if it's just a "Yep, me too!"