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Old 08-30-2005, 12:17 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: 401(k) Automatic Payroll Investments

Yes. See also http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=14.

"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> What he said.
> In addition, I record the employer match portion as a negative amount on
> the after-tax deductions tab of the paycheck wizard. I categorize it as
> deferred-income. I have an offsetting deduction categorized as a transfer
> to the cash portion of the appropriate investment account.



 
Old 08-29-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: 401(k) Automatic Payroll Investments

What he said.

In addition, I record the employer match portion as a negative amount on the
after-tax deductions tab of the paycheck wizard. I categorize it as
deferred-income. I have an offsetting deduction categorized as a transfer to
the cash portion of the appropriate investment account.
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Chris Cowles
Gainesville, FL



Dick Watson wrote:
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> There is no one right answer. See below for comments.


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Old 08-29-2005, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: 401(k) Automatic Payroll Investments

There is no one right answer. See below for comments.

"guilo" <guilo.1uje71[at]no-mx.msusenet.com> wrote in message
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> What I would like to learn is how to setup an automatic "investment"
> deposit as part of my recurring paycheck.
> While it is clear how to setup these deposits, it is not clear how to
> make the payroll deduction for the 401(k) into an automatic "buy"
> investment. In my case, I have a set deduction (say $100) to be
> withdrawn (before tax) each pay period. I would like to direct those
> funds into a "buy" of a mutual fund at current market rate (the fund
> account is already setup of course). However, when I setup my
> deduction, I can either direct the funds to the cash part of the
> investment account -or - I have to specify market price + quantity for
> the investment. To be clear, given this is a recurring contribution, I
> have no way of knowing, quantity, commission, price, etc.


For this reason, among others, I setup two recurring transactions. The
first, as a component of my recurring paychecks, transfers my contribution,
401k loan repayment, and employer match to the 401k cash account. The second
is a recurring BILL (counter-intuitive, I know, but that's M02+ for you) set
to enter into the 401k cash account register that is SPLIT into several "Buy
Investment/CD" elements. You will probably have to type out "Buy
Investment/CD" as it will probably not be offered in the pull-down. Each
split Buy Investment/CD element is scheduled to Buy some hokey number of
shares based on some hokey price for total dollar amounts proportioned to
match my investment allocation election. I adjust these when I get the
actual number of shares bought by editing, deleting qty and price and
entering the reported exact qty. (I don't have commission involved.) Money
figures the approximate price given the other two variables.

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> Any ideas for how to setup these recurring contributions to
> automatically "buy" -- calculating quantity based on current market
> share value and a specific commission?


You can't readily do automatic since you cannot know the amount in advance.
You might be able to get this from downloaded transaction data, depending on
the FI involved, version of Money, phases of the moon, and so on. I do all
my entry manually and believe I have many fewer problems doing it this way.
Others can maybe help better with that aspect. I can help with 401k
questions otherwise.


 

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