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| GOOD LUCK "Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:Ojdk#A0oFHA.1464[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... - quote - > Putting 2 & 2 together and reading between the lines, I think MS had a > problem with M2005 or M2006 that in the course of fixing broke downloads to > earlier versions. As these earlier versions were out of support....... > -- > Regards > Bob Peel, > Microsoft MVP - Money > For UK tips & fixes see > http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny. > For wishes or suggestions see > http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp > or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback > I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for. > "Mark Horn" <mark[at]hornclan.com> wrote in message > news:slrndg5r4m.ts.mark[at]home.hornclan.com... > > On 2005-08-16, Dick Watson <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> > wrote: > > > See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=120. It may be this "feature". > > > In this FAQ entry, what services are you thinking of when you say this: > > > Many of us always figured there was an implicit date beyond > > which Microsoft was not going to provide services that cost > > them money to provide on legacy interfaces that cost them > > money to maintain in exchange for the same $10 we paid for > > the software way back when. > > > I know that MSN provides quotes. But Microsoft is doing more than > > just shutting down access to the quotes. They're also shutting > > down a service that doesn't cost them anything. To wit: when I > > download OFX transactions from my bank's website, and import that > > file into Money, Microsoft is not involved at all. I do not send > > one bit to Microsoft. I don't send use a single CPU resource of > > theirs to do this. I use my bank's bandwidth and web page and my > > own network and CPU. > > > Yet, Microsoft decided to stop supporting any OFX transaction loads > > after a specific date. It doesn't cost them any more to support > > the interactions between a bank and it's customers than it does > > to support manual transaction entry after that date. And yet they > > don't turn off manual transaction entry after 2 years. What they've > > done is (IMHO) roughly equivalent shutting off cash flow after a > > certain time frame, and then using the excuse that it costs them > > extra money to continue to support it. > > > I'm not so sanguine about Microsoft's intentions here. I think > > this is a crappy move. If they want to just stop paying to > > support something, I've got no problem with that. But when they > > actively break something that's working, and it doesn't cost them > > anything to allow to continue to work, that's crossing the line > > from self-protection to nasty. > > > </complain |
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| On 2005-08-17, Bob Peel MVP <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: - quote - > Putting 2 & 2 together and reading between the lines, I think MS had a
I don't think that's the case. When I import an OFX file from my> problem with M2005 or M2006 that in the course of fixing broke downloads to > earlier versions. As these earlier versions were out of support....... bank directly into M03, Microsoft isn't involved at all. M03 simply refuses to import that file. I don't see how a fix to M05 or M06 could have caused this interaction to break. Additionally, I don't think this was accidental because the license agreement the explicitly states that downloads are going to "expire". And low and behold, they did. The fact that this is in the license agreement means that I have no complaint that will be upheld by any sort of court. It's certainly not illegal and any civil complaint will (correctly) fall on deaf ears. But it's still a sleazy thing for MS to have done. They intentionally broke working software even though that software's continuing to work wouldn't impact them. |
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| Putting 2 & 2 together and reading between the lines, I think MS had a problem with M2005 or M2006 that in the course of fixing broke downloads to earlier versions. As these earlier versions were out of support....... -- Regards Bob Peel, Microsoft MVP - Money For UK tips & fixes see http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny. For wishes or suggestions see http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for. "Mark Horn" <mark[at]hornclan.com> wrote in message news:slrndg5r4m.ts.mark[at]home.hornclan.com... - quote - > On 2005-08-16, Dick Watson <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: > > See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=120. It may be this "feature". > In this FAQ entry, what services are you thinking of when you say this: > Many of us always figured there was an implicit date beyond > which Microsoft was not going to provide services that cost > them money to provide on legacy interfaces that cost them > money to maintain in exchange for the same $10 we paid for > the software way back when. > I know that MSN provides quotes. But Microsoft is doing more than > just shutting down access to the quotes. They're also shutting > down a service that doesn't cost them anything. To wit: when I > download OFX transactions from my bank's website, and import that > file into Money, Microsoft is not involved at all. I do not send > one bit to Microsoft. I don't send use a single CPU resource of > theirs to do this. I use my bank's bandwidth and web page and my > own network and CPU. > Yet, Microsoft decided to stop supporting any OFX transaction loads > after a specific date. It doesn't cost them any more to support > the interactions between a bank and it's customers than it does > to support manual transaction entry after that date. And yet they > don't turn off manual transaction entry after 2 years. What they've > done is (IMHO) roughly equivalent shutting off cash flow after a > certain time frame, and then using the excuse that it costs them > extra money to continue to support it. > I'm not so sanguine about Microsoft's intentions here. I think > this is a crappy move. If they want to just stop paying to > support something, I've got no problem with that. But when they > actively break something that's working, and it doesn't cost them > anything to allow to continue to work, that's crossing the line > from self-protection to nasty. > </complain |
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| On 2005-08-17, Dick Watson <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: - quote - > As for it breaking transaction downloads and not breaking manual entry,
LOL! If the answer was anything greater than zero, I think I'd probably> you'd probably be able to guess how many tears I shed over that. have to start seriously worrying the end of the world. ![]() |
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| As for it breaking transaction downloads and not breaking manual entry, you'd probably be able to guess how many tears I shed over that. |
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| This was directed my way? You have a point. When I get back in the FAQ editing business, I'll try to remember to edit that answer. (Things are hectic now in part because my laptop's hard disk turned toes up on a recent trip. It WAS my web development database/testbed.) I don't know what the driver is for Microsoft to obsolete the older versions OFX/OFC stuff out-of-service. I'd bet one issue is helping weed the world of obsolete interfaces (read: OFC and, probably sooner or later, OFX) is one of them. Surely making it a forcing function to weed out old (read: non-revenue-generating) copies of Money is another. "Mark Horn" <mark[at]hornclan.com> wrote in message news:slrndg5r4m.ts.mark[at]home.hornclan.com... - quote - > On 2005-08-16, Dick Watson <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: > > See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=120. It may be this "feature". > In this FAQ entry, what services are you thinking of when you say this: > Many of us always figured there was an implicit date beyond > which Microsoft was not going to provide services that cost > them money to provide on legacy interfaces that cost them > money to maintain in exchange for the same $10 we paid for > the software way back when. > I know that MSN provides quotes. But Microsoft is doing more than > just shutting down access to the quotes. They're also shutting > down a service that doesn't cost them anything. To wit: when I > download OFX transactions from my bank's website, and import that > file into Money, Microsoft is not involved at all. I do not send > one bit to Microsoft. I don't send use a single CPU resource of > theirs to do this. I use my bank's bandwidth and web page and my > own network and CPU. > Yet, Microsoft decided to stop supporting any OFX transaction loads > after a specific date. It doesn't cost them any more to support > the interactions between a bank and it's customers than it does > to support manual transaction entry after that date. And yet they > don't turn off manual transaction entry after 2 years. What they've > done is (IMHO) roughly equivalent shutting off cash flow after a > certain time frame, and then using the excuse that it costs them > extra money to continue to support it. > I'm not so sanguine about Microsoft's intentions here. I think > this is a crappy move. If they want to just stop paying to > support something, I've got no problem with that. But when they > actively break something that's working, and it doesn't cost them > anything to allow to continue to work, that's crossing the line > from self-protection to nasty. > </complain |
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| On 2005-08-16, Dick Watson <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote: - quote - In this FAQ entry, what services are you thinking of when you say this: Many of us always figured there was an implicit date beyond which Microsoft was not going to provide services that cost them money to provide on legacy interfaces that cost them money to maintain in exchange for the same $10 we paid for the software way back when. I know that MSN provides quotes. But Microsoft is doing more than just shutting down access to the quotes. They're also shutting down a service that doesn't cost them anything. To wit: when I download OFX transactions from my bank's website, and import that file into Money, Microsoft is not involved at all. I do not send one bit to Microsoft. I don't send use a single CPU resource of theirs to do this. I use my bank's bandwidth and web page and my own network and CPU. Yet, Microsoft decided to stop supporting any OFX transaction loads after a specific date. It doesn't cost them any more to support the interactions between a bank and it's customers than it does to support manual transaction entry after that date. And yet they don't turn off manual transaction entry after 2 years. What they've done is (IMHO) roughly equivalent shutting off cash flow after a certain time frame, and then using the excuse that it costs them extra money to continue to support it. I'm not so sanguine about Microsoft's intentions here. I think this is a crappy move. If they want to just stop paying to support something, I've got no problem with that. But when they actively break something that's working, and it doesn't cost them anything to allow to continue to work, that's crossing the line from self-protection to nasty. </complain |
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| See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=120. It may be this "feature". "bondguy" <bondguy[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3593F4BC-3294-472E-88E4-9591A1352690[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I started using 2003 about a year ago and everything worked fine. A few > weeks ago I noticed that my portfolios were not updating, although I > would > get an "update complete." Has anyone experienced this problem and is there > a > work around. |
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| I started using 2003 about a year ago and everything worked fine. A few weeks ago I noticed that my portfolios were not updating, although I would get an "update complete." Has anyone experienced this problem and is there a work around. |
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