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Old 07-28-2005, 10:39 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Mutual Fund Conversion

In microsoft.public.money, Michael Gordon, MVP wrote:

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> Problem with this method is it creates a taxable transaction (unless this is
> a tax-deferred account). A stock split, then a rename will retain the
> cost/date basis.


Make that a 11352 shares for every 11353 shares split.

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> --
> Michael Gordon
> MVP
> "Wally" <Wally[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C41F4C92-67A7-49D1-9E80-0203A45F5567[at]microsoft.com...
> > I would suggest simply entering a sell of the old fund and a buy of the new
> > one. Enter the number of shares and the total dollar amount and let the
> > share prices look after themselves.
> > > "Bob" wrote:
> > > > I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
> > > shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original
> > > fund
> > > were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between
> > > the
> > > two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
> > > determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in
> > > funds
> > > even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005
> > > Deluxe.


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Old 07-27-2005, 03:50 PM
Marilyn & Bob
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Default Re: Mutual Fund Conversion

I'm not sure if there would be any negative consequences to this, but I
would try a Remove Shares of the full amount of Vanguard share (without
listing the share value) followed by an Add Shares equal to the amount of
Admiral shares. The net will be the same as your removal of .105 shares,
but would more closely track what happened. I don't think this should
affect your cost basis, but I have not tried it.
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Bob" <Bob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news58C7E42-B400-4D22-9248-34C2C34EFD9A[at]microsoft.com...
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> Because the actual share difference was so small it did not seem possible
> to
> perform a split that would result in the correct number of shares behind
> the
> decimal point and I would have to use add/remove shares to correct.
> Therefore
> I used Joe's suggestion and just removed the .105 shares and renamed the
> fund
> along with changing the ticker symbol. This was the method I was planning
> to
> use at the start but wanted to post to see if anyone else knew of a
> solution
> that more accurately reflected what occurred. While the solution Wally
> offered would work it was in a taxable account and therefore cost basis
> information would be lost. Thanks for the help.
> "Joe Smith" wrote:
> > Have you tried just renaming the fund, changing the ticker symbol and
> > removing/adding the necessary shares?
> > > Should keep all the cost basis the same, and just leave a memo field when

> > you remove/add the difference in shares to explain it was a conversion.
> > > "Bob" <Bob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:480AC490-BDBA-4547-8EFD-B5268170C205[at]microsoft.com...
> > > I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to
> > > Admiral
> > > shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original
> > > fund
> > > were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between
> > > the
> > > two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying
> > > to
> > > determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in

> > funds
> > > even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005

> > Deluxe.
> > >

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Old 07-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Bob
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Default Re: Mutual Fund Conversion

Because the actual share difference was so small it did not seem possible to
perform a split that would result in the correct number of shares behind the
decimal point and I would have to use add/remove shares to correct. Therefore
I used Joe's suggestion and just removed the .105 shares and renamed the fund
along with changing the ticker symbol. This was the method I was planning to
use at the start but wanted to post to see if anyone else knew of a solution
that more accurately reflected what occurred. While the solution Wally
offered would work it was in a taxable account and therefore cost basis
information would be lost. Thanks for the help.

"Joe Smith" wrote:

- quote -

> Have you tried just renaming the fund, changing the ticker symbol and
> removing/adding the necessary shares?
> Should keep all the cost basis the same, and just leave a memo field when
> you remove/add the difference in shares to explain it was a conversion.
> "Bob" <Bob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:480AC490-BDBA-4547-8EFD-B5268170C205[at]microsoft.com...
> > I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
> > shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original fund
> > were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between the
> > two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
> > determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in

> funds
> > even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005

> Deluxe.

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Old 07-27-2005, 01:32 AM
Joe Smith
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Default Re: Mutual Fund Conversion

Have you tried just renaming the fund, changing the ticker symbol and
removing/adding the necessary shares?

Should keep all the cost basis the same, and just leave a memo field when
you remove/add the difference in shares to explain it was a conversion.

"Bob" <Bob[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:480AC490-BDBA-4547-8EFD-B5268170C205[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
> shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original fund
> were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between the
> two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
> determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in

funds
> even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005

Deluxe.


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Old 07-27-2005, 12:40 AM
Michael Gordon, MVP
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Default Re: Mutual Fund Conversion

Problem with this method is it creates a taxable transaction (unless this is
a tax-deferred account). A stock split, then a rename will retain the
cost/date basis.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"Wally" <Wally[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C41F4C92-67A7-49D1-9E80-0203A45F5567[at]microsoft.com...
- quote -

> I would suggest simply entering a sell of the old fund and a buy of the new
> one. Enter the number of shares and the total dollar amount and let the
> share prices look after themselves.
> "Bob" wrote:
> > I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
> > shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original
> > fund
> > were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between
> > the
> > two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
> > determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in
> > funds
> > even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005
> > Deluxe.



 
Old 07-26-2005, 09:38 PM
Wally
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Default RE: Mutual Fund Conversion

I would suggest simply entering a sell of the old fund and a buy of the new
one. Enter the number of shares and the total dollar amount and let the
share prices look after themselves.

"Bob" wrote:

- quote -

> I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
> shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original fund
> were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between the
> two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
> determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in funds
> even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005 Deluxe.

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Old 07-26-2005, 07:26 PM
Bob
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Default Mutual Fund Conversion

I own shares in a Vanguard Index Fund that recently converted to Admiral
shares in a tax free conversion. The number of shares in the original fund
were 1192.065 but due to a penny difference in the share price between the
two funds the new fund only has 1191.96 shares . Therefore I am trying to
determine how to best enter this transaction to reflect the change in funds
even though my cost basis will remain the same. I am using Money 2005 Deluxe.
 

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