"Jonathan" wrote:

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Some comments inline.

"Jason" <cfjraz[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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Comparison reports were in M04. Even if Essential Budget stinks, you can
Just Say No to Essential * and use Advanced * instead.

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There are problems here, but I don't know what all of the limitations are.
There is a way to login "offline" to a local file with cached Passport
credentials. (Th summer 04 case had these credentials getting invalidated
after an online authentication attempt.) But why do Passport authentication
in the first place if you need nothing that Passport authentication enables?

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I'm betting that more legitimate users--data owners--have been locked out of
their own Money data than intruders have been locked out of somebody else's
Money data by either of the authentication schemes Money makes available.
Also, don't forget that the strategic direction is almost surely to
eliminate the "local data" part of this problem. And as much as I don't like
it, I'm not sure that's a bad thing ***for the users in the center of the
target they are aiming at***. Many of these users can't/won't backup, don't
understand where their data is stored, don't implement even mediocre data
protection/security practices, don't know what version they are running,
can't remember where the CD is with that version, and so forth. Can MSN be a
worse place for their data than their home machine?

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"You can run 2006 in a mode that fixes several bugs in 2003 and does not
introduce any new ones."

Could you please provide a little more detail here?

I've been a Money user since 98. I upgraded every year through 2003, and
then stayed there. I don't remember why I skipped 2004 anymore, but the
inability to list categories and subcategories separtely when entering
transactions was a deal breaker for me in 2005.

I've downloaded and tested the 2006 trial, and I see that the category issue
is fixed, but it is also still fine in 2003. There are a couple things I
like a little better here and there in 2006, like the ability to show both
bank and local balance on the accounts home page (instead of a couple clicks
deeper in 2003), and the essential budget doesn't stink, I guess.
Comparrison reports are also a mild plus.

Overall though, it seems like there is more wasted space at the top of the
screen, and I don't like that half the links on the 'bottom' toolbar are
really links to internet content. I can find this content just fine in a
web browser, thank you very much. Also, I still have no interest in
syncronization of my own data with MSN money, or the ability to enter
transactions from anywhere.

In fact, I remember pretty clearly the way 2004 users who used passport were
locked out of their own data just before 2005 came out.

I know that if I ultimately move to 2006 I can continue to avoid using a
Passport, but does anybody know if it is possible to access the data stored
in a 2006 file protected by a MS Passport if you know the username and
password, but the MS servers, or your own internet connection are down?

In a product like this, it just makes no sense to me to require remote
authentication for access to local data, potential for file cracking
programs notwithstanding. For me, this is really one of the top 2 biggest
disincentives to Money's new directions.

On balance, I think I'd actaully continue to stay with 2003 if possible, but
if 2003 really does stop working in 6 weeks, I guess it'll be a pretty
simple decision, and yes, I think that does stink.

J...





"Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message
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IF that's true--and I suspect it has to be for bank downloads but maybe not
for quotes--then it should be hack-able, no? We've got a bunch of bright
people here... (Sets me to thinking.)

"Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message
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You can run 2006 in a mode that fixes several bugs in 2003 and does not
introduce any new ones. 2006 does not require that you set up using a
passport and MSN Moneycentral downloads. Likewise you do not have to
set up automatic downloads from your Financial Institutions if the
require the third party Yodlee package if you wish to continue using the
FI website access to manually download the OFX files. The code to cut
you off from the 2003 downloads is running on your system so MS has no
way to not cut you off at that time. Also with the rebates at COSTCO
and other places going away within 6 weeks you might just want to get
the new version.

Art

Jonathan wrote:

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It is rumoured that 2006 has improved over 2005 but....
Yes they WILL stop downloads and that is everything - shares, direct from
you bank, etc etc

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Jonathan" <bartlettjonathan[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am on Money 2003 which I found to be rock-solid. Last year I tried
out 2005, but rejected it due to reasons you are all well aware of.

I know about access being potentially cut-off to me in 6 weeks, but
whether or not they will follow through on that remains to be seen.

Besides that, is there any other reason to do an upgrade now? I cannot
think of any, but am open if anybody actually recommends it.