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| In article <uHjw5EXkFHA.3960[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl> , russpj[at]microsoft.com says... - quote - > Why do we require MSN servers to help out with Yodlee accounts?
I have two accounts that sync through Yodlee, Capitol One and City> It's partly historical, partly technical, and partly motivated by security > concerns. > MSN Money first implemented Yodlee aggregation for synchronization data on > the web site, and MS Money independently synchronized with the MSN Money > data store. So, the simplest implementation at the time was to hook those > two pieces together. > Of course, the fact that Yodlee at the time didn't have a system to supply > aggregated data to client desktops was a factor in our design as well. It > simply wouldn't have been possible to implement aggregation via Yodlee > without connecting to an intermediate server. (I am not aware that things > have changed.) > Not only was Yodlee's design well informed by security concerns, but this > overall design does have one additional desirable attribute. Your bank login > information is not stored on MSN Servers, and in fact it is not even passed > through during synchronization; Yodlee holds on to that privately and > securely. > -Russ Paul-Jones > MS Money Product Unit Manager > russpj[at]microsoft.com National of West Virginia. When I had M05, sometimes the connection with Yodlee would just disappear and you would have to go through the whole online setup routine again. This is still happening in M06. Is there a fix for this? Thanks. -- Robin Charleston, WV |
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| Along the same lines, has the security design been revised to avoid the problem of Passport users being locked out of their own financial data on their local computer? That, more than anything else, makes me leery of assigning a Passport to my file. I'm not on a screaming diatribe about incompetence - it's a simple human error of entering the wrong ip address in a server. Microsoft can try to reduce the risk but, I don't think it can be reduced to zero. -- Chris Cowles Gainesville, FL "Russ Paul-Jones" <russpj[at]microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uHjw5EXkFHA.3960[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > Why do we require MSN servers to help out with Yodlee accounts? ... > ... Not only was Yodlee's design well informed by security concerns, but > this > overall design does have one additional desirable attribute. Your bank > login > information is not stored on MSN Servers, and in fact it is not even > passed > through during synchronization; Yodlee holds on to that privately and > securely. |
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| Why do we require MSN servers to help out with Yodlee accounts? It's partly historical, partly technical, and partly motivated by security concerns. MSN Money first implemented Yodlee aggregation for synchronization data on the web site, and MS Money independently synchronized with the MSN Money data store. So, the simplest implementation at the time was to hook those two pieces together. Of course, the fact that Yodlee at the time didn't have a system to supply aggregated data to client desktops was a factor in our design as well. It simply wouldn't have been possible to implement aggregation via Yodlee without connecting to an intermediate server. (I am not aware that things have changed.) Not only was Yodlee's design well informed by security concerns, but this overall design does have one additional desirable attribute. Your bank login information is not stored on MSN Servers, and in fact it is not even passed through during synchronization; Yodlee holds on to that privately and securely. -Russ Paul-Jones MS Money Product Unit Manager russpj[at]microsoft.com "John DeMastri" <john_underscore_demastri_[at]_mindspring_dot_.com> wrote in message news:O6EQMDXjFHA.1948[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local > PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > Thanks - John |
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| I understand the business reason - it just seems like such a hack technically... thanks for the link, hadn't seen that for a while. "darp" <darp[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news 8B7FC39-D82D-4893-A118-2C328FE548C1[at]microsoft.com...- quote - > Check this link > http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archi...01/170682.aspx > It explains why Money is dependant (owned?) by MSN > "John DeMastri" wrote: > > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local > > PC > > like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. > > > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > > > Thanks - John > > > |
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| thanks! "Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message news:%%EDe.77233$%Z2.25995[at]lakeread08... - quote - > YES > John DeMastri wrote: > > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local > > PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee > > account. > > > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > > > Thanks - John |
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| Thanks to you and (as always) Dick for replying. Making this change would have been a looooong shot, but _I_ for one would have loved it ![]() "Richard Bollar" <bollar[at]bollar.org> wrote in message news:O010j0ejFHA.1148[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > Since Yodlee accounts update in MSN Money even without a Money sync, that > seems reasonable to me. > -- > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in > message news:%23iyXMLZjFHA.3544[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > I don't know for sure, but if I tell you I think this has not changed in > > M06 I will surely incite a better answer if there is one. I think it was a > > key part of the implementation design--I think they actually do the Yodlee > > sync stuff server-side and just use the legacy sync with the web stuff to > > get it to your local PC. Again, I'm not sure of this and say it in part to > > coax a better answer out of the firmament. > > > "John DeMastri" <john_underscore_demastri_[at]_mindspring_dot_.com> wrote in > > message news:O6EQMDXjFHA.1948[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport > > > or data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your > > > local PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee > > > account. > > > > > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > > > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > > |
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| Check this link http://blogs.msdn.com/philipsu/archi...01/170682.aspx It explains why Money is dependant (owned?) by MSN "John DeMastri" wrote: - quote - > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local PC > like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > Thanks - John |
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| Since Yodlee accounts update in MSN Money even without a Money sync, that seems reasonable to me. -- "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:%23iyXMLZjFHA.3544[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... - quote - > I don't know for sure, but if I tell you I think this has not changed in > M06 I will surely incite a better answer if there is one. I think it was a > key part of the implementation design--I think they actually do the Yodlee > sync stuff server-side and just use the legacy sync with the web stuff to > get it to your local PC. Again, I'm not sure of this and say it in part to > coax a better answer out of the firmament. > "John DeMastri" <john_underscore_demastri_[at]_mindspring_dot_.com> wrote in > message news:O6EQMDXjFHA.1948[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local > > PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee > > account. > > > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > > utilize the Yodlee sync services? |
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| YES John DeMastri wrote: - quote - > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local PC > like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > utilize the Yodlee sync services? > Thanks - John |
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| I don't know for sure, but if I tell you I think this has not changed in M06 I will surely incite a better answer if there is one. I think it was a key part of the implementation design--I think they actually do the Yodlee sync stuff server-side and just use the legacy sync with the web stuff to get it to your local PC. Again, I'm not sure of this and say it in part to coax a better answer out of the firmament. "John DeMastri" <john_underscore_demastri_[at]_mindspring_dot_.com> wrote in message news:O6EQMDXjFHA.1948[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... - quote - > The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or > data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local > PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. > Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to > utilize the Yodlee sync services? |
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| The fact that you're using Yodlee to sync shouldn't require a Passport or data on MS servers. Password and other info could be held on your local PC like other online services, or accessed via an existing Yodlee account. Does Money 2006 still require a Passport and all data on MS servers to utilize the Yodlee sync services? Thanks - John |
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