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Old 07-21-2005, 03:26 AM
William L. Oppenheim, M.D.
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

I agree that for the $20 at Costco, you might as well upgrade, rather than
worry about being a version behind. As to Yodlee, Bank of America now offers
its own version of consolidation,, which seems to work a lot better for me
than Money.

"Mark Vetrano" <abc[at]abc.com> wrote in message
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> I got premium for $20 (costco) and feel that it is WELL worth that price to
> upgrade from 2005 Dlx.
> The major things I have noticed are:
> (1) No more duplicate downloads of Yodlee accounts (worth $20 itself to
> me!).
> (2) Much faster than 2005 for me (17MB file on an AMD 64 w 2GB ram that
> was
> a dog for 2005)
> (3) The "Updates in progress" window now hides if you check the box (bug).
> (4) Some of the Yodlee matching is better than 2005 so far.
> (5) Very Nice backup file enhancements - muli-version capability, CD etc.
> Mark
> "SteveC" <src[at]conklan.us> wrote in message
> news:%23m9B3N7iFHA.3288[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I think it is a bit smoother than 2005 too. Was it worth the upgrade

> price?
> > Probably not. It would be nice if MS would allow Deluxe and Premium
> > users

> a
> > free upgrade to the next year (2 years for Premium Users) because lately
> > these updates are really incremental.
> > "DL Browne" <xyz[at]C.Com> wrote in message
> > news:uNcqy45iFHA.3656[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > I must say I have been happy with it compared to 2005. I am one of those
> > > few money users ( not essential) that uses every aspect of Money. I

> haven't
> > > seen any absolutely fabulous new features (although I do love integrated
> > > incrementally backup to cdrom), but it does seem faster and a bit more
> > > stable than 2004. And as premium 2006 only costs 20 bucks at Costco, I
> > > would call it a worthy upgrade.
> > > > > --
> > > Denny Browne
> > > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> > > message news:OrywTT0iFHA.3568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which)
> > > > started this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably
> > > > the
> > > > worst collective thing that ever happened to either product.
> > > > > > > To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a
> > > > three year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility.

> Are
> > > > the update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not.
> > > > Compared
> > > > to what Money's been getting? You bet!
> > > > > > > "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> > > > > Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06

> really
> > > > > should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we
> > > > > want
> > > > > to spend our money on once in a while?
> > > > > > > > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the
> > > > > 2nd
> > > > > year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> > > > > released.
> > > > > > > > > > > >


  #9  
Old 07-19-2005, 06:31 PM
SteveC
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

Well I have updated every year and started using Money, version 1, which
replaced Dollars and Sense, which is what I first started using in DOS days.
I never did you MYM although I beta tested a Windows version way back which
never worked very well (or was that Dollars and Sense?). I saw the same
interface a few years later on a shareware program (name escapes me) which I
downloaded for fun and it didn't work any faster or better. You think Money
is slow!
"Tom Oviedo" <tomoviedo[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe more reliable, easier to use and get the job done.
> I've mentioned this previously. A few years ago I bought a $20 Black and
> Decker rechargeable drill. It did the job, but poorly. What a waste of
> time trying to use that thing. One day I got frustrated enough to drop the
> dough on a $300 Dewalt 18v 3 speed hammer drill. I use it around the house
> maybe once a month. It was so worth the money I spent. I do whatever I
> need to do with so little time and effort.
> I use Money 2-3-4 times a week, but feel like it's like the $20 B&D drill.
> Ok, maybe it's the $60 model. I'd like the $300 model and would gladly pay
> that much for the tool to do the job I need to do more easily,
> efficiently, with less wresting and fewer bugs.
> It's like the old saying, "I don't want a drill... I want a hole" (with as
> little time and effort as possible)". For financial software, I don't want
> a better version of Money... I was a better picture of my financial
> situtation with as little time and effort as possible so I can make the
> best financial decisions.
> Easier and more accurate tranaction downloading and matching, classes in
> scheduled loan payments, better and easier report generation and better
> performance (maybe being able to turn off the CPU-hog features I don't
> use) would be a great start.
> Unfortunately, MS keeps churning out the same old $60 version every year,
> at least the last 2-3.
> "Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
> news:a83md110ksl6gm2hkpfomkuahdmin637t6[at]4ax.com...
> > In microsoft.public.money, Tom Oviedo wrote:
> > > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd
> > > year
> > > in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was released.
> > > For financial software, I do not want to see new and fantastic.

> > Evolutionary and reliable, yes.
> > > New and fantastic should be a good direction for Xbox games.

>


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Old 07-19-2005, 05:29 AM
Tom Oviedo
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

Maybe more reliable, easier to use and get the job done.

I've mentioned this previously. A few years ago I bought a $20 Black and
Decker rechargeable drill. It did the job, but poorly. What a waste of time
trying to use that thing. One day I got frustrated enough to drop the dough
on a $300 Dewalt 18v 3 speed hammer drill. I use it around the house maybe
once a month. It was so worth the money I spent. I do whatever I need to do
with so little time and effort.

I use Money 2-3-4 times a week, but feel like it's like the $20 B&D drill.
Ok, maybe it's the $60 model. I'd like the $300 model and would gladly pay
that much for the tool to do the job I need to do more easily, efficiently,
with less wresting and fewer bugs.

It's like the old saying, "I don't want a drill... I want a hole" (with as
little time and effort as possible)". For financial software, I don't want a
better version of Money... I was a better picture of my financial situtation
with as little time and effort as possible so I can make the best financial
decisions.

Easier and more accurate tranaction downloading and matching, classes in
scheduled loan payments, better and easier report generation and better
performance (maybe being able to turn off the CPU-hog features I don't use)
would be a great start.

Unfortunately, MS keeps churning out the same old $60 version every year, at
least the last 2-3.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Tom Oviedo wrote:
> > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd
> > year
> > in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was released.

> For financial software, I do not want to see new and fantastic.
> Evolutionary and reliable, yes.
> New and fantastic should be a good direction for Xbox games.



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Old 07-18-2005, 05:39 PM
Michael Gordon, MVP
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

As a historian, I need to point out that annual upgrades began with Managing
Your Money (they were necessary because MYM required annual archiving for
tax purposes) and Quicken, when it appeared later, continued the pattern.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OrywTT0iFHA.3568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
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> Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which) started
> this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably the worst
> collective thing that ever happened to either product.
> To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a
> three year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility. Are
> the update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not. Compared to
> what Money's been getting? You bet!
> "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> > Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06 really
> > should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want to
> > spend our money on once in a while?
> > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd

> > year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> > released.



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Old 07-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Mark Vetrano
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

I got premium for $20 (costco) and feel that it is WELL worth that price to
upgrade from 2005 Dlx.

The major things I have noticed are:

(1) No more duplicate downloads of Yodlee accounts (worth $20 itself to
me!).
(2) Much faster than 2005 for me (17MB file on an AMD 64 w 2GB ram that was
a dog for 2005)
(3) The "Updates in progress" window now hides if you check the box (bug).
(4) Some of the Yodlee matching is better than 2005 so far.
(5) Very Nice backup file enhancements - muli-version capability, CD etc.

Mark

"SteveC" <src[at]conklan.us> wrote in message
news:%23m9B3N7iFHA.3288[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I think it is a bit smoother than 2005 too. Was it worth the upgrade
price?
> Probably not. It would be nice if MS would allow Deluxe and Premium users

a
> free upgrade to the next year (2 years for Premium Users) because lately
> these updates are really incremental.
> "DL Browne" <xyz[at]C.Com> wrote in message
> news:uNcqy45iFHA.3656[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I must say I have been happy with it compared to 2005. I am one of those
> > few money users ( not essential) that uses every aspect of Money. I

haven't
> > seen any absolutely fabulous new features (although I do love integrated
> > incrementally backup to cdrom), but it does seem faster and a bit more
> > stable than 2004. And as premium 2006 only costs 20 bucks at Costco, I
> > would call it a worthy upgrade.
> > > --

> > Denny Browne
> > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> > message news:OrywTT0iFHA.3568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which)
> > > started this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably the
> > > worst collective thing that ever happened to either product.
> > > > > To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a
> > > three year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility.

Are
> > > the update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not. Compared
> > > to what Money's been getting? You bet!
> > > > > "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
> > > news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> > > > Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06

really
> > > > should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want
> > > > to spend our money on once in a while?
> > > > > > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd
> > > > year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> > > > released.
> > > > >

  #5  
Old 07-18-2005, 04:12 PM
SteveC
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

I think it is a bit smoother than 2005 too. Was it worth the upgrade price?
Probably not. It would be nice if MS would allow Deluxe and Premium users a
free upgrade to the next year (2 years for Premium Users) because lately
these updates are really incremental.
"DL Browne" <xyz[at]C.Com> wrote in message
news:uNcqy45iFHA.3656[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
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> I must say I have been happy with it compared to 2005. I am one of those
> few money users ( not essential) that uses every aspect of Money. I haven't
> seen any absolutely fabulous new features (although I do love integrated
> incrementally backup to cdrom), but it does seem faster and a bit more
> stable than 2004. And as premium 2006 only costs 20 bucks at Costco, I
> would call it a worthy upgrade.
> --
> Denny Browne
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:OrywTT0iFHA.3568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which)
> > started this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably the
> > worst collective thing that ever happened to either product.
> > > To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a

> > three year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility. Are
> > the update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not. Compared
> > to what Money's been getting? You bet!
> > > "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message

> > news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> > > Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06 really
> > > should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want
> > > to spend our money on once in a while?
> > > > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd
> > > year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> > > released.

> >


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Old 07-18-2005, 01:40 PM
DL Browne
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

I must say I have been happy with it compared to 2005. I am one of those few
money users ( not essential) that uses every aspect of Money. I haven't seen
any absolutely fabulous new features (although I do love integrated
incrementally backup to cdrom), but it does seem faster and a bit more
stable than 2004. And as premium 2006 only costs 20 bucks at Costco, I would
call it a worthy upgrade.

--
Denny Browne
"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OrywTT0iFHA.3568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which) started
> this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably the worst
> collective thing that ever happened to either product.
> To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a
> three year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility. Are
> the update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not. Compared to
> what Money's been getting? You bet!
> "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> > Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06 really
> > should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want to
> > spend our money on once in a while?
> > > I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd

> > year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> > released.



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Old 07-18-2005, 03:00 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

Somewhere along the way Microsoft or Intuit (can't remember which) started
this stupid arms race of annual "upgrades". It was probably the worst
collective thing that ever happened to either product.

To Cal, I have to point out that Office gets significant upgrades on a three
year cycle and manages to retain reliability and compatibility. Are the
update new and fantastic? In an absolute sense, maybe not. Compared to what
Money's been getting? You bet!

"Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:erMh1jziFHA.3336[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like
> Office and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06 really
> should be Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want to
> spend our money on once in a while?
> I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd
> year in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was
> released.



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Old 07-18-2005, 02:05 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

In microsoft.public.money, Tom Oviedo wrote:

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> I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd year
> in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was released.


For financial software, I do not want to see new and fantastic.
Evolutionary and reliable, yes.

New and fantastic should be a good direction for Xbox games.

  #1  
Old 07-18-2005, 01:35 AM
Tom Oviedo
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

Thanks, that seems to be the concensus. I was hoping there was someone out
there happy with the thing for some real reasons that have escaped the rest
of us.

Why even release a new version? Why not just go the 3 year cycle like Office
and Windows, with fixes in between? (Sounds like Money 06 really should be
Money 04 SP2). And then give us some new, neat stuff we want to spend our
money on once in a while?

I was hoping for something new and fantastic. Disappointed for the 2nd year
in a row... and I wasn't exactly doing cart wheels when 04 was released.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:uX8vmhxiFHA.2180[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
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> I don't see how it's solved many, if any, of the issues I had with M05.
> (See http://umpmfaq.info/Money2005.htm. YMMV.) I have not gone to far with
> it though, it runs like a snail on major amounts of Valium on the one
> machine I've tested it on. Others are reporting improved performance. Go
> figure. It sounds like the Yodlee integration is more reliable. Beyond
> that, I can't say as anybody has reported much functionality that has
> really changed in ways that add to the net functionality of the product
> rather than just being so much minor "turd polishing". Of course, the same
> thing can be said back many years now. Somebody really got off on the new
> color scheme compared to the one in M04. Whatever floats your boat.
> "Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:O0woLPxiFHA.3316[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > I'm considering upgrading from 05 to 06. I've read a lot of negative
> > posts... disappointments, etc.
> > > Anyone happy with the upgrade? What's improved? What new features do you

> > like?



 
Old 07-17-2005, 09:44 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

I don't see how it's solved many, if any, of the issues I had with M05. (See
http://umpmfaq.info/Money2005.htm. YMMV.) I have not gone to far with it
though, it runs like a snail on major amounts of Valium on the one machine
I've tested it on. Others are reporting improved performance. Go figure. It
sounds like the Yodlee integration is more reliable. Beyond that, I can't
say as anybody has reported much functionality that has really changed in
ways that add to the net functionality of the product rather than just being
so much minor "turd polishing". Of course, the same thing can be said back
many years now. Somebody really got off on the new color scheme compared to
the one in M04. Whatever floats your boat.

"Tom Oviedo" <reply[at]via.newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:O0woLPxiFHA.3316[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
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> I'm considering upgrading from 05 to 06. I've read a lot of negative
> posts... disappointments, etc.
> Anyone happy with the upgrade? What's improved? What new features do you
> like?



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Old 07-17-2005, 09:09 PM
Tom Oviedo
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Default Money 06 Improvements, What Do You Like? <TJS Oviedo>

Hey all,

I'm considering upgrading from 05 to 06. I've read a lot of negative
posts... disappointments, etc.

Anyone happy with the upgrade? What's improved? What new features do you
like?

Thanks,

Tom.


 

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