David,

Thanks for the info! That's EXACTLY what was going on. I upgraded to 2006
this past weekend so it's good to know that they got this kink figured out.
I'm sure it was a real task for the developers to track this
sporadic bug down. I'm glad they succeeded!

Thanks again!

Paul


David wrote:
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Paul,

The bug appears to be fixed in the new Money 2006.

The bug, specifically, was this:
- Dividend amounts show as negative numbers, though they were entered as
positive numbers.
- The proceeds of the stock sales are treated as negative numbers though
they should be positive.
- It may or may not have something to do with sync'ing with MSN Money. All
the reporters seem to have that in common.
- It is not related to downloading transactions from OFX since it happens in
accounts that are not linked to an OFX institution.
- The recurs even if you manually fix the transactions. When you quit and
restart Money, the numbers are negative again.

Anyway, I tried first the trial version then the full version, and it is
fixed. Or, I should say the transactions stayed correct after I manually
fixed each and every one, then quit and restarted Money. Both the trial
version and full versions are available for download. "Premium" is $50 after
rebate.

My steps:
1) Install Money 2006.
2) Allow it to upgrade my data file to the new version.
3) Did a standard file repair.
4) Did a quick file repair. (Can't hurt, right?)
5) Fixed dividends by typing the positive number over the negative number.
6) Fixed stock sales by deleting the proceeds number, then pressing Enter to
force Money to recalculate it from the (quantity x price) - commission.

The sales are tricky because they do not appear in red as obvious negative
number. Instead, you need to notice that they are reducing rather than
increasing your cash balance.

- David


"Paul" wrote:

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no - these transactions are populated via ofx, not yodlee.

Dick Watson wrote:
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Hi all. I spoke with someone at support. He was perplexed as well and
suggested I first run a standard salvage, then a quick salvage. Then, I
made 3 new entries mirroring 3 of the erroneous transactions. Then, I blew
away (delete, not voided) the 3 original erroneous transactions. After each
cycle of 3 add/3 delete, we exited money (i have auto backup on by the way).
When we went back into Money, the three transactions were just fine. We
repeated this 3 at a time until all 6 of my investment accounts were back to
reality.

What fixed it? Don't know. Doing both salvages may have been part of the
equation. Maybe doing 3 at a time was critical. Don't know. But, I'm
happy. Try it - it's tedious and maybe you don't have to do in batches of
3. I just did what the technician told me and got the results I needed.
Email me if you have any questions. I do have a case number so if you have
to call support, you can reference the number and perhaps save some time.

Dick Watson wrote:
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What happens if you enter the transactions by hand? Is Yodlee involved?

If you think Quicken is a better alternative, by all means, go for it:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...400&spf=1&sp=1

If you think Excel is a better alternative, I'm betting you don't understand
the problem. Money, with transactions entered by hand, saves all of these
nightmares and is still a database. In Excel, you'll have little choice but
to enter the transactions by hand and, once the data is there, there's still
not much you can do with it like query and report and so forth.

"Joe Banton" <jbanton[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3ezte.1307$lv.598[at]newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
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This is definitely a problem in Money 2005. I experienced the same problems
and deleted all of my investment transactions after March, 2005. That's when
my problem started happening. Everything looked ok until the next update and
it went back to negative Reinvested Dividends. I have only found this
occurring on the Tax estimator reports and Tax related Transactions reports.
The portfolio balances look ok. If it is not fixed soon I am looking at
alternatives such as Excel or Quicken.
"Paul" <palar1[at]REMOVEthisTEXTcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:N--dnW7ohN71QjHfRVn-iw[at]comcast.com...
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In microsoft.public.money, Paul wrote:

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See if the amount is in the wrong Payment/Deposit column in the Cash
Transactions register. If so, try modifying the amounts in the
Transactions register. Delete the total. Rub out the least
significant digit in the Quantity and renter it. The total should
get put back then

If you get the changing reconciled transaction warning accept it.
Then check that the amount is now in the proper Deposit column in
the Cash Transactions.


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I don't know. I wonder if it could come from somehow matching a
transaction to the wrong thing, (sale proceeds matched with MMF buy,
for example), but I don't know. I had run into something similar,
but I did not figure out how to reproduce it.

I have been on Money Deluxe 2005 for a while now. Last week, I was looking
at my investment accounts and noticed that the cash accounts associated all
have negative cash-on-hand. Upon further review, I found about 15 sale
transactions that looked just fine in the Investment Transactions registers
but were marked as payments, rather than deposits, in the related Cash
Transaction accounts. I did a standard repair but that didn't seem to help
and it showed no broken records when I viewed the log. I then voided each
of the incorrectly recorded transactions and re-entered them manually. All
was fine until I closed Money and went back in. At that point, everything
was back to negatives again. It seems that the errors include dividends
being listed as negative as well as sales of equities.

I went ahead and did a 'msmoney -s' but that made the problem worse - now
all the negative amounts have doubled. Fortunately, I kept a backup to use
in case the -s made things worse. So, I'm back to the "less-worse" version
of my portfolio.

Can you please help me? This is happening on transactions regardless of
whether they come in from Scottrade via .ofx or whether I enter them
manually.

Many thanks!!!