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  #16  
Old 07-02-2005, 06:48 PM
Kenny
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

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> > I'm using MS Money 2000.
> > > When doing the internet update, which has previously been okay, I now see

> > the error message:
> > > Online Quotes and Exchange Rates:

> > Money was unable to retrieve a quote for FTSE (London). The symbol $US:FTSE
> > is invalid. To correct an invalid or expired symbol, go to the Details for
> > that investment from the Portfolio and correct or delete the symbol.
> > > How can I correct this problem?

> There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.


I`m new to this can please tell me how I go about changing this, thanks


  #15  
Old 06-16-2005, 08:15 AM
peter
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, James wrote:
> > I'm using MS Money 2000.
> > > When doing the internet update, which has previously been okay, I now see

> > the error message:
> > > Online Quotes and Exchange Rates:

> > Money was unable to retrieve a quote for FTSE (London). The symbol
> > $US:FTSE
> > is invalid. To correct an invalid or expired symbol, go to the Details for
> > that investment from the Portfolio and correct or delete the symbol.
> > > How can I correct this problem?

> There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.


The problem is that its not possible to change the code. The Indexs in
"Investments to watch" are "hard wired" the "details" are greyed out. If it
was a stock I had entered I would be able to change the code.
Peter


  #14  
Old 06-15-2005, 07:04 AM
Rednelle
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

Thanks Dick,

uk. in the URL makes all the difference

Rednelle



  #13  
Old 06-14-2005, 10:14 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

Try
http://uk.moneycentral.msn.com/inves...y=GB%3AB058DQ5.
At least when I do it, it comes back with both of your symbols and one
alternative for each.

"Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for that.
> GB:TS20 does work from Money 2000, and also if I hit with that string in
> 'Search for options by company symbol' on the

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor.../detail/stock_
> quote webpage.
> But how did you find that GB:TS20 is the symbol for Treasury 4 3Q% 2020 ?
> I don't see where this alternative is listed. What am I doing wrong?



  #12  
Old 06-14-2005, 08:47 PM
Rednelle
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

Dick,

Thanks for that.

GB:TS20 does work from Money 2000, and also if I hit with that string in
'Search for options by company symbol' on the
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor.../detail/stock_
quote webpage.

But how did you find that GB:TS20 is the symbol for Treasury 4 3Q% 2020 ?
I don't see where this alternative is listed. What am I doing wrong?

Rednelle


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> When I go to http://uk.moneycentral.msn.com and try to get data on either
of
> these (GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8), I get nowhere in terms of getting a
> quote. Given this, it doesn't surprise me that Money gets nowhere asking

for
> a quote for them from MSN.
> But it does list alternatives GB:TS20 and GB:AUC, both of which it

provides
> quotes for. It also says "Quotes supplied by ComStock, a division of
> Interactive Data Corporation, and are delayed at least 20 minutes."
> If GB:TS20 or GB:AUC don't work from Money, I'd consider this possibly a
> Money/MSN issue since MSN seems to happily quote them. Have you tried

either
> of them? As to why GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8 don't work, I'd think

ComStock
> is the reason why, not Money and probably not MSN.
> "Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d8nb9c$5e1$1[at]nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > Using your telephone analogy, I go to directory enquiries

> (http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...=http://moneyc
> > entral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?ipage=qd) and ask for a symbol.
> > > My stock is Great Britain Treasury 4 3Q% STK 2020

> > MSN lists these symbols GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8 against this

stock?
> > But if I use either of these symbols (with or without a preceding $

sign,
> in
> > Money 2000), or if I hit on them, I get nothing.
> > > Where should I go to get the symbol not likely, but actually, required

to
> > ensure Money 2000 retrieves good data for this stock?



  #11  
Old 06-14-2005, 08:15 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

When I go to http://uk.moneycentral.msn.com and try to get data on either of
these (GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8), I get nowhere in terms of getting a
quote. Given this, it doesn't surprise me that Money gets nowhere asking for
a quote for them from MSN.

But it does list alternatives GB:TS20 and GB:AUC, both of which it provides
quotes for. It also says "Quotes supplied by ComStock, a division of
Interactive Data Corporation, and are delayed at least 20 minutes."

If GB:TS20 or GB:AUC don't work from Money, I'd consider this possibly a
Money/MSN issue since MSN seems to happily quote them. Have you tried either
of them? As to why GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8 don't work, I'd think ComStock
is the reason why, not Money and probably not MSN.

"Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> Using your telephone analogy, I go to directory enquiries
(http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...=http://moneyc
> entral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?ipage=qd) and ask for a symbol.
> My stock is Great Britain Treasury 4 3Q% STK 2020
> MSN lists these symbols GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8 against this stock?
> But if I use either of these symbols (with or without a preceding $ sign,

in
> Money 2000), or if I hit on them, I get nothing.
> Where should I go to get the symbol not likely, but actually, required to
> ensure Money 2000 retrieves good data for this stock?



  #10  
Old 06-14-2005, 07:30 PM
Rednelle
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

Dick,

Using your telephone analogy, I go to directory enquiries
(http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor...=http://moneyc
entral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?ipage=qd) and ask for a symbol.

My stock is Great Britain Treasury 4 3Q% STK 2020
MSN lists these symbols GB:B058DQ5 and GB:B06YGL8 against this stock?
But if I use either of these symbols (with or without a preceding $ sign, in
Money 2000), or if I hit on them, I get nothing.

Where should I go to get the symbol not likely, but actually, required to
ensure Money 2000 retrieves good data for this stock?

Rednelle




"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:e6OL$8GcFHA.228[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Microsoft Money/MSN Does provide the Internet Update facility. But they
> don't provide the data that goes in on either end.
> Let me try to simplify it for you.
> Money knows how to take stock symbols YOU INPUT and go to an MSN server

and
> ask that server to return data for those symbols. Assuming it gets data

back
> for those symbols, it knows what to do with it. The server knows how to

take
> the symbols and look them up in a data set based on data MSN RECEIVES FROM
> SOMEBODY. If that somebody sends data with symbol "xyz" and you tell Money
> to ask for symbol "xyz" all is well. If that somebody sends data where
> symbol "xyz" has been changed to "abc" and you are still asking for "xyz",
> neither the MSN server nor Money has any clue what to do.
> Your best bet is to go to the MSN Money site for your country and try to
> find the security you are looking for in their quotes/symbol lookup
> mechanism. Whatever symbol that uses is likely what you have to tell Money
> to ask for (in Investment Details Symbol) to get back good data.
> It's like your phone: if you call someone and the person who answers the
> phone you called is speaking Japanese and you only speak English, blaming
> the phone company is probably not helpful. The connected the call. They
> can't control the inputs on the ends of that connection.



  #9  
Old 06-13-2005, 11:25 PM
Dick Watson
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Microsoft Money/MSN Does provide the Internet Update facility. But they
don't provide the data that goes in on either end.

Let me try to simplify it for you.

Money knows how to take stock symbols YOU INPUT and go to an MSN server and
ask that server to return data for those symbols. Assuming it gets data back
for those symbols, it knows what to do with it. The server knows how to take
the symbols and look them up in a data set based on data MSN RECEIVES FROM
SOMEBODY. If that somebody sends data with symbol "xyz" and you tell Money
to ask for symbol "xyz" all is well. If that somebody sends data where
symbol "xyz" has been changed to "abc" and you are still asking for "xyz",
neither the MSN server nor Money has any clue what to do.

Your best bet is to go to the MSN Money site for your country and try to
find the security you are looking for in their quotes/symbol lookup
mechanism. Whatever symbol that uses is likely what you have to tell Money
to ask for (in Investment Details Symbol) to get back good data.

It's like your phone: if you call someone and the person who answers the
phone you called is speaking Japanese and you only speak English, blaming
the phone company is probably not helpful. The connected the call. They
can't control the inputs on the ends of that connection.

"Circe" <circe2002uk[at]yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I was under the impression that Microsoft provided the internet update
> facility, so my reasoning was this:
> I purchased MS Money for which Microsoft provide an internet update
> facility. This has worked okay up until recently when it suddenly stopped
> working, I suppose because of something Microsoft did to the update

facility
> at their end. I've found out that the only way to fix this is to use
> something called a "hex editor" to edit the file which looks terribly
> complicated and technical, and appears after trawling through yet more

news
> posts probably wont work on my copy of Money. If Microsoft changed
> something that broke the program I'm using then of course I'd like them to
> provide a little fix for me. If someone else changed something that
> Microsoft access and use then I'd have thought that every Money user would
> be affected and that Microsoft would be fixing it.
> After reading peoples comments it's all looking a lot more murkey.



  #8  
Old 06-13-2005, 06:27 PM
Circe
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> Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
> exchange symbol changes?



I was under the impression that Microsoft provided the internet update
facility, so my reasoning was this:

I purchased MS Money for which Microsoft provide an internet update
facility. This has worked okay up until recently when it suddenly stopped
working, I suppose because of something Microsoft did to the update facility
at their end. I've found out that the only way to fix this is to use
something called a "hex editor" to edit the file which looks terribly
complicated and technical, and appears after trawling through yet more news
posts probably wont work on my copy of Money. If Microsoft changed
something that broke the program I'm using then of course I'd like them to
provide a little fix for me. If someone else changed something that
Microsoft access and use then I'd have thought that every Money user would
be affected and that Microsoft would be fixing it.

After reading peoples comments it's all looking a lot more murkey.



  #7  
Old 06-12-2005, 03:38 PM
Rednelle
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I am corrected.

Rednelle


"Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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- quote -

> Sorry but Money does use SEDOL stock & share codes.
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For UK tips & fixes see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> For wishes or suggestions see
> http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
> or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d8f8fi$nhg$1[at]nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > The stock exchange symbols that we are talking about are symbols unique

to
> > MSN, as far as I know, and it would not be unreasonable of Microsoft to
> > let
> > their customers know if, for whatever reason, they chose to change them.
> > > What is the point in registering the product if it is not to allow the

> > manufacturer to notify known customers of such changes.
> > > In UK the London stock exchange has SEDOL and TOPIC codes to identify

> > stocks
> > & shares and it is regrettable that Microsoft does not make it crystal
> > clear
> > that these longstanding symbols are not what Money requires.
> > > Rednelle
> > > > > "Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message

> > news:eJelFrqbFHA.3400[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
> > > exchange symbol changes?
> > > > > --
> > > Regards
> > > Bob Peel,
> > > Microsoft MVP - Money
> > > > > For UK tips & fixes see
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> > > For wishes or suggestions see
> > > http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
> > > or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback
> > > > > I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> > > > > "Circe" <circe2002uk[at]yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:d8f1jg$3c8$1[at]nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > > > > > How can I correct this problem?
> > > > > > > > > There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> > > > > Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.
> > > > > > > Everyday people need a patch from Microsoft, not a technical
> > > > instruction
> > > > that's over their heads. Surely Microsoft must have a patch

available?
> > > > > > > > > > >

  #6  
Old 06-11-2005, 08:34 PM
Bob Peel MVP
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Sorry but Money does use SEDOL stock & share codes.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> The stock exchange symbols that we are talking about are symbols unique to
> MSN, as far as I know, and it would not be unreasonable of Microsoft to
> let
> their customers know if, for whatever reason, they chose to change them.
> What is the point in registering the product if it is not to allow the
> manufacturer to notify known customers of such changes.
> In UK the London stock exchange has SEDOL and TOPIC codes to identify
> stocks
> & shares and it is regrettable that Microsoft does not make it crystal
> clear
> that these longstanding symbols are not what Money requires.
> Rednelle
> "Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eJelFrqbFHA.3400[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
> > exchange symbol changes?
> > > --

> > Regards
> > Bob Peel,
> > Microsoft MVP - Money
> > > For UK tips & fixes see

> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> > For wishes or suggestions see
> > http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
> > or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback
> > > I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> > > "Circe" <circe2002uk[at]yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

> > news:d8f1jg$3c8$1[at]nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > > > > How can I correct this problem?
> > > > > > > There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> > > > Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.
> > > > > Everyday people need a patch from Microsoft, not a technical
> > > instruction
> > > that's over their heads. Surely Microsoft must have a patch available?
> > > > > >


  #5  
Old 06-11-2005, 07:06 PM
Dick Watson
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"Rednelle" <rednelle31[at]btinternet.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

> The stock exchange symbols that we are talking about are symbols unique to
> MSN, as far as I know, and it would not be unreasonable of Microsoft to
> let
> their customers know if, for whatever reason, they chose to change them.


Actually, they probably come from Microsoft's data supplier(s). MSN is not
in the financial informaiton business. They just pass this stuff through.
I'm betting there is not one person at MSN who knows or cares when one of
these symbols changes. From their PoV, it's just data-driven GIGO.

- quote -

> What is the point in registering the product if it is not to allow the
> manufacturer to notify known customers of such changes.


So they get your address to send marketing to you.

- quote -

> In UK the London stock exchange has SEDOL and TOPIC codes to identify
> stocks
> & shares and it is regrettable that Microsoft does not make it crystal
> clear
> that these longstanding symbols are not what Money requires.


Be that as it may.


  #4  
Old 06-11-2005, 05:53 PM
Rednelle
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Default Re: error in Money 2000 on internet update

The stock exchange symbols that we are talking about are symbols unique to
MSN, as far as I know, and it would not be unreasonable of Microsoft to let
their customers know if, for whatever reason, they chose to change them.

What is the point in registering the product if it is not to allow the
manufacturer to notify known customers of such changes.

In UK the London stock exchange has SEDOL and TOPIC codes to identify stocks
& shares and it is regrettable that Microsoft does not make it crystal clear
that these longstanding symbols are not what Money requires.

Rednelle



"Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eJelFrqbFHA.3400[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
> exchange symbol changes?
> --
> Regards
> Bob Peel,
> Microsoft MVP - Money
> For UK tips & fixes see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
> For wishes or suggestions see
> http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
> or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback
> I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.
> "Circe" <circe2002uk[at]yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d8f1jg$3c8$1[at]nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> > > > How can I correct this problem?
> > > > > There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> > > Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.
> > > Everyday people need a patch from Microsoft, not a technical instruction

> > that's over their heads. Surely Microsoft must have a patch available?

>

  #3  
Old 06-11-2005, 05:41 PM
Dick Watson
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Read like it to me. This guy is a perfect candidate for the upcoming
web-only version of Money.

"Bob Peel MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]kiandraNOSPAM.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
> exchange symbol changes?



  #2  
Old 06-11-2005, 05:26 PM
Bob Peel MVP
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Are you seriously suggesting that MS issue a patch everytime a stock
exchange symbol changes?

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Circe" <circe2002uk[at]yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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- quote -

> > > How can I correct this problem?
> > > There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.

> > Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.

> Everyday people need a patch from Microsoft, not a technical instruction
> that's over their heads. Surely Microsoft must have a patch available?



  #1  
Old 06-11-2005, 03:56 PM
Circe
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- quote -

> > How can I correct this problem?
> There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
> Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.


Everyday people need a patch from Microsoft, not a technical instruction
that's over their heads. Surely Microsoft must have a patch available?


 
Old 06-10-2005, 10:39 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, James wrote:

- quote -

> I'm using MS Money 2000.
> When doing the internet update, which has previously been okay, I now see
> the error message:
> Online Quotes and Exchange Rates:
> Money was unable to retrieve a quote for FTSE (London). The symbol $US:FTSE
> is invalid. To correct an invalid or expired symbol, go to the Details for
> that investment from the Portfolio and correct or delete the symbol.
> How can I correct this problem?


There have been several posts on this in microsoft.public.uk.money.
Change the symbol to $GB:UKX.


  #-1  
Old 06-10-2005, 10:23 PM
James
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Default error in Money 2000 on internet update

I'm using MS Money 2000.

When doing the internet update, which has previously been okay, I now see
the error message:

Online Quotes and Exchange Rates:
Money was unable to retrieve a quote for FTSE (London). The symbol $US:FTSE
is invalid. To correct an invalid or expired symbol, go to the Details for
that investment from the Portfolio and correct or delete the symbol.

How can I correct this problem?

Many thanks.

James


 

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