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Old 05-09-2005, 03:57 AM
Paul Pedersen
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

Thanks for your responses.

I've been using expenses & income for a while now, not really satisfied with
it. I'll try using a Reimburseables account for a while, see how that works
out.



"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> Comments inline.
> "Paul Pedersen" <no-reply[at]swen.com> wrote in message
> news:e2HwJCOUFHA.3392[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in

> > message news:OImnEmAUFHA.1796[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > Assuming you had an expense category and added the expenses, Money also
> > > "overstates" your expenses. That sounds like a wash to me.
> > > Except that they often come in different periods.

> True. But this is still good data. I want to know if I'm unbalanced in a
> period on this stuff and need to track where the money is.
> > > As to using the same category, that's surely another way some people
> > > use.
> > > Money complains but you can tell it to get over it, or you can turn off
> > > the
> > > complaining forever in Tools|Options.
> > > I'd prefer to do that only for that one category, but it doesn't seem to

> > be possible.

> You can't selectively tell it to quit whining. But you can tell Money you
> really do want to categorized inceom as expense or vice versa every time
> you do it with one enter key.
> > > As to the reimbursable receivables account, this is another way.
> > > That also serves the purpose of reminding me when reimbursements are

> > falling behind.

> So does the imbalance in expenses to income.
> > It's kind of annoying to set up what should be an expense category as a
> > transfer instead, but it can be done.

> True enough. Or, as noted above, you can just use the expense category in
> the first place. This is why I do this with reimbursibles like this.
> > > There is no One Right Answer. Each method has plusses/minuses. Whichever
> > > works best for you is what you should do.
> > > IOW, no "good" answer. But either would be usable. I still remember

> > entering "negative salary" in Quicken to account for payroll deductions
> > (15 years ago).

> What's good? Honest accounting? Use the expenses and income.



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Old 05-05-2005, 01:19 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

Comments inline.

"Paul Pedersen" <no-reply[at]swen.com> wrote in message
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> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:OImnEmAUFHA.1796[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Assuming you had an expense category and added the expenses, Money also
> > "overstates" your expenses. That sounds like a wash to me.

> Except that they often come in different periods.


True. But this is still good data. I want to know if I'm unbalanced in a
period on this stuff and need to track where the money is.

- quote -

> > As to using the same category, that's surely another way some people use.
> > Money complains but you can tell it to get over it, or you can turn off
> > the
> > complaining forever in Tools|Options.

> I'd prefer to do that only for that one category, but it doesn't seem to
> be possible.


You can't selectively tell it to quit whining. But you can tell Money you
really do want to categorized inceom as expense or vice versa every time you
do it with one enter key.

- quote -

> > As to the reimbursable receivables account, this is another way.
> That also serves the purpose of reminding me when reimbursements are
> falling behind.


So does the imbalance in expenses to income.

- quote -

> It's kind of annoying to set up what should be an expense category as a
> transfer instead, but it can be done.


True enough. Or, as noted above, you can just use the expense category in
the first place. This is why I do this with reimbursibles like this.

- quote -

> > There is no One Right Answer. Each method has plusses/minuses. Whichever
> > works best for you is what you should do.

> IOW, no "good" answer. But either would be usable. I still remember
> entering "negative salary" in Quicken to account for payroll deductions
> (15 years ago).


What's good? Honest accounting? Use the expenses and income.


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Old 05-04-2005, 07:35 PM
Paul Pedersen
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"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OImnEmAUFHA.1796[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Assuming you had an expense category and added the expenses, Money also
> "overstates" your expenses. That sounds like a wash to me.


Except that they often come in different periods.



- quote -

> As to using the same category, that's surely another way some people use.
> Money complains but you can tell it to get over it, or you can turn off
> the
> complaining forever in Tools|Options.


I'd prefer to do that only for that one category, but it doesn't seem to be
possible.



- quote -

> As to the reimbursable receivables account, this is another way.

That also serves the purpose of reminding me when reimbursements are falling
behind.

It's kind of annoying to set up what should be an expense category as a
transfer instead, but it can be done.




- quote -

> There is no One Right Answer. Each method has plusses/minuses. Whichever
> works best for you is what you should do.


IOW, no "good" answer. But either would be usable. I still remember entering
"negative salary" in Quicken to account for payroll deductions (15 years
ago).

Thanks.




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Old 05-03-2005, 05:57 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

Assuming you had an expense category and added the expenses, Money also
"overstates" your expenses. That sounds like a wash to me.

As to using the same category, that's surely another way some people use.
Money complains but you can tell it to get over it, or you can turn off the
complaining forever in Tools|Options.

As to the reimbursable receivables account, this is another way.

There is no One Right Answer. Each method has plusses/minuses. Whichever
works best for you is what you should do.

"Paul Pedersen" <no-reply[at]swen.com> wrote in message
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> One problem with that approach is that it makes Money overstate your
income
> (even if it's non-taxable and doesn't show up on tax reports). For

instance,
> last month was unusual in that expense reimbursements were more than

double
> my income, and Money seems to think I made three times as much as I

actually
> did. (Would that it were true.)
> If I create an expense category "reimburseable expenses" and try to add
> reimbursements to that category, Money complains that I'm treating income

as
> an expense.
> Would it be better to have a "Reimburseables" account, and treat

everything
> as a transfer in or out of that?



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Old 05-03-2005, 03:52 PM
Paul Pedersen
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

One problem with that approach is that it makes Money overstate your income
(even if it's non-taxable and doesn't show up on tax reports). For instance,
last month was unusual in that expense reimbursements were more than double
my income, and Money seems to think I made three times as much as I actually
did. (Would that it were true.)

If I create an expense category "reimburseable expenses" and try to add
reimbursements to that category, Money complains that I'm treating income as
an expense.

Would it be better to have a "Reimburseables" account, and treat everything
as a transfer in or out of that?




"bs" <bsohn[at]bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> I manage job reimbursement by using both an expense and and income
> category. When I make expenditures for work, I dump them into the expense
> category Job Related Expenses. When I get reimbursed from my company, I
> categorize these into the income category Job Reimbursements. Neither of
> these categories is tagged for taxing purposes.
> I also maintain a customized report that only shows the transactions in
> the above referenced categories. This allows me to see if I'm getting
> reimbursed for everything that I'm spending.
> Good luck,
> -bs



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Old 04-17-2005, 01:18 PM
bs
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

I manage job reimbursement by using both an expense and and income category.
When I make expenditures for work, I dump them into the expense category Job
Related Expenses. When I get reimbursed from my company, I categorize these
into the income category Job Reimbursements. Neither of these categories is
tagged for taxing purposes.

I also maintain a customized report that only shows the transactions in the
above referenced categories. This allows me to see if I'm getting reimbursed
for everything that I'm spending.

Good luck,
-bs


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Old 04-17-2005, 04:15 AM
Barry Schwarz
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:21:01 -0700, "Ryan"
<Ryan[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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> Hi.
> I am having trouble categorizing transfers from one account to another, or
> reimbursements from work. For example, when I transfer money from one
> account, it comes across as a blank category and it isn't an expense or
> income, because I have already categorizes the underlyng expenses or income.


When you transfer money from your bank account to your wallet, your
net worth has not changed. Therefore, it is not an expense or an
income. It is simply a transfer.

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> Same idea with a reimbursement from work. I get a check from work that is
> an expense account payment, and I have already spend the money, so it doesn't
> fit.


This is different. When you incurred the expense, you allocated it to
some category. You should enter the reimbursement as a negative
expense against the same category. This way, the two will offset.
(This is the same way to handle returning an item you bought for a
refund.)

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> Now my income and expenses reports show this massive category of "unassigned."
> How are other folks doing it?




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Old 04-17-2005, 03:54 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

Some transfer the expenses to a cash account then transfer the
reimbursements from there. Others just use Job Expense:Reimbursable (or
similar) and Other Income:Job Expense Reimbursement (or similar). There is
no one right answer, but either of these seem preferable to Unassigned.

"Ryan" <Ryan[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> I am having trouble categorizing transfers from one account to another, or
> reimbursements from work. For example, when I transfer money from one
> account, it comes across as a blank category and it isn't an expense or
> income, because I have already categorizes the underlyng expenses or
> income.
> Same idea with a reimbursement from work. I get a check from work that is
> an expense account payment, and I have already spend the money, so it
> doesn't
> fit.
> Now my income and expenses reports show this massive category of
> "unassigned."
> How are other folks doing it?



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Old 04-16-2005, 11:21 PM
Ryan
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Default How to categorize transfers and reimbursements from work

Hi.

I am having trouble categorizing transfers from one account to another, or
reimbursements from work. For example, when I transfer money from one
account, it comes across as a blank category and it isn't an expense or
income, because I have already categorizes the underlyng expenses or income.

Same idea with a reimbursement from work. I get a check from work that is
an expense account payment, and I have already spend the money, so it doesn't
fit.

Now my income and expenses reports show this massive category of "unassigned."

How are other folks doing it?
 

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