For me I am back to Quicken after using MS for many years. I dumped Norton
for the same reason this year. Junk!!!

"Cindy Conover" wrote:

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Steve,

I use Money 05. I have a brain and do use it. I manually input all of my
data. I do update just incase I forget something. It is a nice feature
when it works and that does not mean that I am incapable of thinking on my
own.

Phil,
Let's face it. $25 is not a major price for what you get with
Money. To get all the bells and whistles that Money promises I would
have expected to pay $200 or more. Money is not going to fix all the
various problems identified. The reason is that each of us perform
different actions with Money attempting to do the correct entry. We
screw it up! Some of the canned answers Money spits out only confuse
the situation more. You really need to have some financial background
to work with it. The ONLY competition is Quicken and I wouldn't switch
after almost 10 years working with Money. I have updated yearly
including to Money 2005. Their online update in October/November at
least made the product work for me. I feel real sorry for anyone who is
trying to use Money 2005 with Yodlee. That product is best used online
with your investment broker website. Money has alot more to offer than
just running asset totals. Steve

Steve,

IMHO, the fact that people spend $$ on software and expect it to work should
not amaze you. I have been an avid money user since 2002 and have upgraded
every year while telling everyone I know how great the product is. However,
if my first experience with MS Money had been with 2005, I would have never
used the program beyond the first few weeks.

As you say, all of our financial data is available from our various
institutions. However, one of the reasons I purchased MS Money was for live
updates. The issue isn't that I can't download my data -- or enter it
manually (what I have to do in most cases). The issue is that I spent good
money on a commercial software product that has *major* bugs with no fixes in
site. And... make no mistake, the Yodlee fiasco is not the only serious
issue with the 2005 product.

There are other personal finance management solutions out there. If the
Money team doesn't get their act together soon, I will take your suggestion
and "use my brain" to find another solution that works as advertised.

"Steve" wrote:

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"Steve" wrote:

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It constantly amazes me that people spend $25 for this product
expecting it to do everything automatically for them. When it doesn't
work they just quit. Apparently they just don't want to use their own
brain and enter the data into Money themselves so that they can get the
only real benefit the program offers. It is a personal finance
mangement program. It helps you manage your finances. You have the
ability to make it work for you if you will only spend 1/2 the time you
now spend dealing with yodlee, msn, microsoft, etc and spend the time
just entering your data yourself. It is all available from your bank or
credit card company or even from your investment companies. Steve

I have had the same problems with Washington Mutual. I have spent many hours
getting it going again, lasts about two weeks and then it will stop updating.
I have given up and trying to get my accounts straightened out. I still need
to get MSN working without using the auto upadate. I give up, too many people
and phone numbers that point the finger at the other MSN or Microsoft, or MSN
bill pay or Yoodle. I hope it works someday. I will not try again untill
something is fixed.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Follow the click brick road at http://support.microsoft.com/money Need more
help.

<dennylee60[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110912259.281288.9070[at]l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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How do I open a case? To call in to their support center? Thanks.

In microsoft.public.money, dennylee60[at]gmail.com wrote:

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That one uses Yodlee interface to provide data, rather than the CU
having its own OFX server. Sometimes that develops a problem for a
while. You could contact Microsoft about that, or you could sit
tight to see if it gets rectified.

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Usually, even in the cases where that helps, the cookie part was
unneeded. Also do File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair; it is safe
and simple, but is probably not the cure in this case.

I am having problems with Capital One and Providian. The same length of
time and the same problem. I open a case with Microsoft and then say that
the problem is with Yoodle and they are trying to fix it. Opening a case
would be your best bet. It didn't even take a day for them to answer me.

Cindy

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The bank is California Coast
Credit Union. I have not been able to update it for over 2 weeks. The
last update was Feb 15 or so. When I click to have update occurs, the
dialog box would come up saying it is trying to update. After a few
minutes I would get a dialog box saying update did not occur because an
error has occurred with the finanical institition. I have no idea what
the error is and what Money did and did not do.

Another post describing a similar problem suggested to clear the cache,
cookies and delete all stored files. I did that but nothing seemed to
help.

Thanks.

In microsoft.public.money, dennylee60[at]gmail.com wrote:

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What bank?

How long since it stopped?

Are you clicking to have online updates occur? What happens?

Hello,
For some reason, MS Money 2005 stopped talking to my bank and I can't
seem to update any more. I am completely loss as to how to fix this.
Any suggestions? Thanks.