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Old 03-15-2005, 05:18 PM
richard
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Default Re: Ameritrade/MSM2005 daytrader's nightmare

"hg" <kjhfa[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23zweCoKKFHA.3132[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
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> I downloaded my trades from ameritrade to 2005MSM and had the correct amt
> of money in my cash account. However, MSM showed all of these positions I
> had that I don't have. Turns out that if you buy/sell on the same day, MSM
> doesn't look at the time of day you bought or sold. So if it happens to
> enter the "sell" first, msmoney does a "add shares" correction so you have
> shares to sell. Then it adds in your "buys" and now you have all of these
> extra shares......... MSM will not let you delete the "add
> shares"........... What to do??


The easiest way that I found to correct this was to change the "sell" to a
"short sell" and then delete the "add shares". I know this is not right,
but I got real tired of editing the sell transaction to be the buy
transaction then editing the buy transaction to be the sell transaction then
deleting the add shares transaction.

As far as I know, this will give the correct numbers, so I guess it will be
good enough for me. I hope Microsoft fixes this.

Richard


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Old 03-14-2005, 11:34 PM
J Jung
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Default Re: Ameritrade/MSM2005 daytrader's nightmare

I've been playing around with this mess and found out that microsoft
intentional puts the sells before the buys, no matter if you put it in
manually or what. Minor flaw in the grand scheme, but very significant if
you day trade............... a real pain in the ***.



"hg" <kjhfa[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23zweCoKKFHA.3132[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I downloaded my trades from ameritrade to 2005MSM and had the correct amt
> of money in my cash account. However, MSM showed all of these positions I
> had that I don't have. Turns out that if you buy/sell on the same day, MSM
> doesn't look at the time of day you bought or sold. So if it happens to
> enter the "sell" first, msmoney does a "add shares" correction so you have
> shares to sell. Then it adds in your "buys" and now you have all of these
> extra shares......... MSM will not let you delete the "add
> shares"........... What to do??



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Old 03-14-2005, 03:31 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Ameritrade/MSM2005 daytrader's nightmare

In microsoft.public.money, hg wrote:

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> I downloaded my trades from ameritrade to 2005MSM and had the correct amt of
> money in my cash account. However, MSM showed all of these positions I had
> that I don't have. Turns out that if you buy/sell on the same day, MSM
> doesn't look at the time of day you bought or sold. So if it happens to
> enter the "sell" first, msmoney does a "add shares" correction so you have
> shares to sell. Then it adds in your "buys" and now you have all of these
> extra shares......... MSM will not let you delete the "add
> shares"........... What to do??



I first said "First, create a big-enough fake AddShares that
pre-dates the others. Delete the original unwanted addShares. Then
finally delete the recent fake AddShares."

I now think that first method doesn't work.

Instead, hand enter a new Buy with the right date. Then Void or
Delete the original buy. Delete the AddShares.

To work around this in the future, you could hand-enter your Buys
before processing the downloads, and let Money match the downloaded
Buys to those. That way they would be first-entered.

I wish Money would give an easier way to handle this. Allowing the
share balance to go negative, perhaps after a warning would be one
way. Letting you reorder the entry order with a "touch" operation
would be another.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 03:02 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Ameritrade/MSM2005 daytrader's nightmare

In microsoft.public.money, hg wrote:

- quote -

> I downloaded my trades from ameritrade to 2005MSM and had the correct amt of
> money in my cash account. However, MSM showed all of these positions I had
> that I don't have. Turns out that if you buy/sell on the same day, MSM
> doesn't look at the time of day you bought or sold. So if it happens to
> enter the "sell" first, msmoney does a "add shares" correction so you have
> shares to sell. Then it adds in your "buys" and now you have all of these
> extra shares......... MSM will not let you delete the "add
> shares"........... What to do??

First, create a big-enough fake AddShares that pre-dates the others.
Delete the original unwanted addShares. Then finally delete the
recent fake AddShares.

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Old 03-14-2005, 02:25 PM
hg
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Default Ameritrade/MSM2005 daytrader's nightmare

I downloaded my trades from ameritrade to 2005MSM and had the correct amt of
money in my cash account. However, MSM showed all of these positions I had
that I don't have. Turns out that if you buy/sell on the same day, MSM
doesn't look at the time of day you bought or sold. So if it happens to
enter the "sell" first, msmoney does a "add shares" correction so you have
shares to sell. Then it adds in your "buys" and now you have all of these
extra shares......... MSM will not let you delete the "add
shares"........... What to do??


 

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