I've had the exact same problem as Keith and Feisty. Super Salvage Utility
says the file is password protected, but doesn't recognize the password.
Tried all the various suggestions, and was running most current version of
program. Am about to try Vadim's idea of exporting to QIF -- and sending
file to MS to fix. This product is horrendous.

"Feisty" wrote:

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F> And then other times it takes 3 to 5 minutes to change from accounts to
F> the bills and deposits view.

DW> If it makes you feel any better, I don't find that hard to believe.

I wonder, did they figure out to make at least their msn links working at
that time - or even that was above and beyond.

I think it would be very good if every user with these problems opened
support incident with Microsoft, and followed up to the corporate office
when their "far east" support offers not much but "we apologize for the
inconvenience this may have caused, but unfortunately...". Hopefully, if the
quality of their software bites them financially, they at some point might
make a step or two in the right direction.

Vadim

If it makes you feel any better, I don't find that hard to believe.

"Feisty" <Feisty[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Oh no Vadim Rapp, his is not the only one that crashes. Mine does too. And
only Money 20005 crashes. No other programs. And I'm talking often And
then other times it takes 3 to 5 minutes to change from accounts to the bills
and deposits view.

"Vadim Rapp" wrote:

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I also know alot of people on Quicken and they never have these horrific
issues.

"Keith Nelson" wrote:

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Oh Keith you just about summed it up for me. I have had every single problem
you are talking about and then more. Just try to do a monthly report, but
then get ready to have 2005 shut down on you on the spot. Microsoft should
be paying us to use this horrible program.

"Keith Nelson" wrote:

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good suggestions.

"Vadim Rapp" wrote:

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You are correct - I will agree with about being more careful with backups...
I allowed an auto update to overwrite my latest - I restore from 45 days ago
and manually brought the data current..

"Bob Peel MVP" wrote:

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Hello Keith:
You wrote in conference microsoft.public.money on Fri, 4 Mar 2005
22:59:02 -0800:

KN> I did that - even installed it on a brand new fresh out of the box Dell
KN> Computer... it is definately a corrupt data file and MS has not utility
KN> to repair it.

assuming that you have already run salvage utility, you can export all your
accounts into qif files, then import them into new money file. It's surely
time-consuming, but you probably have already lost more time on the fight
with the crashes.

I would also send the file to Microsoft support and insist that _they_ fix
it. I understand that most people wouldn't even think about such a step, but
I in fact did exactly that once, and, according to MS, it has resulted in
some improvements of the salvage utility, which is supposed to repair _any_
damage.


Vadim

Where is your backup? You do backup don't you?

--
Rick Faria - MCSE / A+
RDF Technical Services - www.rdfts.com
Email: support at rdfts dot com


"Keith Nelson" <KeithNelson[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I did that - even installed it on a brand new fresh out of the box Dell
Computer... it is definately a corrupt data file and MS has not utility to
repair it.

"Vadim Rapp" wrote:

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that is the version I am using... I have uninstalled - reinstalled... the
file is corrupt - one bad transaction that can not be resolved.

"Bob Peel MVP" wrote:

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Hello Keith:
You wrote in conference microsoft.public.money on Fri, 4 Mar 2005
07:59:05 -0800:

KN> I made the horrific mistake of trying out Money 2005 - I am using the
KN> demo version and stood have stayed with 2004. Money crashes almost
KN> 90% of the time I load it....

While Money 2005 is truly bad product, probably one of the worst Microsot
software releases ever, I would think that crashing at this rate is not
entirely its fault. I have it too, and though it's slow, though it often
merely shows absolutely wrong dollars, etc., etc., however it does not
really crash.

Is Money the only software on your system that crashes?

I would try the following, in this order:

run a thorough check of the system for the viruses and spyware

uninstall/reinstall Money

run it with all other application stopped.


Vadim

I switched from Quicken to Money 2005 about 6 weeks and am quite
pleased with it. I'd used Quicken for about 7 years and find Money to
be a better product, at least for what I do. And, it's specifically
the downloads from my bank, investment accounts and credit cards that
works much better than Quicken.

As far as stability, Money has worked well so far. Each new update
of Quicken was so bug-laden that I wanted to scream!




On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:59:05 -0800, Keith Nelson <Keith
Nelson[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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You need to check Help > About for the version number. You should be on
14.0.*.1105. This version is the online update that Dick alluded to that
fixed many of the early on-line problems.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Keith Nelson" <KeithNelson[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I wouldn't confuse having no desire or willingness or interest in fixing
something with having no idea how to fix it.

"Keith Nelson" <KeithNelson[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I wished I had seen your article earlier also - believe me.

I have quite a few clients using Quicken and they all seem to have much
better results.....

What amazes me the most is that Microsoft, while acknowledging a data
corruption issue with Money has no idea on how to fix it... and it 6 months
has made no headway in resolving the issue.

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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I'm assuming you have allowed Money to install its M05 Internet Updates.
They may improve some issues. They will not solve all that ails M05. See
http://umpmfaq.info/Money2005.htm for my thoughts on M05. Too bad you didn't
look here first. I, for one, would have warned you.

See http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=17 for one thought on rollback.

BTW, what's your basis for assuming Quicken is a stable product?

"Keith Nelson" <Keith Nelson[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I made the horrific mistake of trying out Money 2005 - I am using the demo
version and stood have stayed with 2004. Money crashes almost 90% of the
time I load it.... I can not clear transactions downloaded from my bank, nor
can I delete them and attempt to recreate them. I have used the internal
file repair utility and it is of no value. I tried super salvage but it does
not even function - asks for a password but does not use the file password.

Anyone know of anyway to convert the money file back to 2004 or a stable
product like Quicken? I have used money for over 5 years - this is the worse
release ever.