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| Cal, thanks for picking up the thread. To answer your question: If one continues with the example and reports the cap gain transaction of a US$ account together with a C$ account, you will see that the cap gain of the US$ transaction is reported in C$ and correctly; i.e. using the exchange rate at each buy/sell transaction, translates the cost and proceeds into C$ and reports the gain/loss. Surely there IS NO GAIN or LOSS in my example when reported in the original foreign currency (i.e. US$). After all, buy 1 share of MSFT [at] US$100 then sell 1 share of MSFT [at] US$100, no matter what tax law, there is no gain or loss in US$. There mayu be gain or loss in another currency (in my case C$) depending on the exchange rate at time of each transaction. As I mentioned above, when the report is in C$ (when reporting multiple accounts) it IS correct. Please take another look at this. Thanks "Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote: - quote - > In microsoft.public.money, Frustrated Money User wrote: > > > This is OBVIOUSLY incorrect, since a report in US$ should show ZERO > > gain/loss. The problem is that although the report says it is in US$, in > > reality, Money04 converts each transaction using the transaction exchange > > rate to C$, then reconverts back to US$ using the master exchange rate from > > OPTIONS. > It is not so obvious to me. > This kind of thing is often based on how tax laws view things. From > the viewpoint of the CRA, would this be zero-gain trade? I don't > know. > From the view of the US IRS if things were reversed, it would not be > a zero-gain trade. I think each trade would be treated as if > converted at then-current exchange rates. That would appear to be > the paradigm that Money is using. > I am not saying how things should be. I am saying that how it should > be treated by Money is not obvious. Trying to apply principles of > logic to matters involving tax law does not always work. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Frustrated Money User wrote: - quote - > This is OBVIOUSLY incorrect, since a report in US$ should show ZERO
It is not so obvious to me.> gain/loss. The problem is that although the report says it is in US$, in > reality, Money04 converts each transaction using the transaction exchange > rate to C$, then reconverts back to US$ using the master exchange rate from > OPTIONS. This kind of thing is often based on how tax laws view things. From the viewpoint of the CRA, would this be zero-gain trade? I don't know. From the view of the US IRS if things were reversed, it would not be a zero-gain trade. I think each trade would be treated as if converted at then-current exchange rates. That would appear to be the paradigm that Money is using. I am not saying how things should be. I am saying that how it should be treated by Money is not obvious. Trying to apply principles of logic to matters involving tax law does not always work. |
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| Using Money 2004 standard edition (I understand the same applies to Money 2005): Tax-Capital gains report of an investment in foreign currency shows an error. I'd appreciate if MVP's can try the recreation of the error and advise what plans Microsoft Development team has regarding correction of the error. The error can be recreated as follows: 1: set up a file using CA$ as base currency and an exchange rate of US$1 =CA$1.2 2: set up an investment account in US$ 3: 1/Jan/05, buy 1 share of MSFT [at] US$100 (exchange rate US$1=CA$1.5 4: 2/Jan/05, sell 1 share of MSFT [at] US$100 (exchange rate US$1=CA$1.3 5: Go to Reports-taxes-capital gains and display the capital gains, it will show: Capital Gains Investment account name 01/Jan/05 through 31/12/05 Investment Quantity Date Bought Date Sold Sale Proceeds Purchase Cost Gain/Loss MICROSOFT 1 01/01/05 02/01/05 US$108.33 us$125.00 (US$16.67) This is OBVIOUSLY incorrect, since a report in US$ should show ZERO gain/loss. The problem is that although the report says it is in US$, in reality, Money04 converts each transaction using the transaction exchange rate to C$, then reconverts back to US$ using the master exchange rate from OPTIONS. Furthermore, the same method seems to be used for display of PORTFOLIO values and thus shows the same error. |
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