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Old 02-21-2005, 04:35 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Assigning proper transaction categories ?

In microsoft.public.money, Ed wrote:

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> Thanks so much for the assistance. Now everything looks good as far as
> deposits and transfers. But I am still having a bit of trouble with the
> credit card account and two payments. So here's some more detail on this
> problem:
> On 1/18/05 I made an electronic funds transfer for payment to Citi Bank from
> my checking account for $3,000 . In my Citi Bank account I can see the Citi
> Cards Bill Payment from my checking for $3,000 on 1/18/05. I can also see
> on 1/20/05 the same transaction as an electronic payment notice from Citi
> Bank when I downloaded their statement.
> Should I just delete one? Would this mess up my next reconciliation?


Two mutually exclusive choices:

1. Delete one AND turn the other into a transfer. No mess-up will
occur. Next time, make the first you process into a transfer, and
match the next one you process to the transfer. This is the
normal/classic method.

2. Delete neither. Make the category of BOTH the SAME expense
category. This is a way that is probably more foolproof in that you
won't get out of sync if you do nothing.

In any case, downloading is good.
[signed]
Silent Majority :-)


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Old 02-21-2005, 04:26 AM
Ed
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Default Re: Assigning proper transaction categories ?

Dear Cal & Dick,

Thanks so much for the assistance. Now everything looks good as far as
deposits and transfers. But I am still having a bit of trouble with the
credit card account and two payments. So here's some more detail on this
problem:

On 1/18/05 I made an electronic funds transfer for payment to Citi Bank from
my checking account for $3,000 . In my Citi Bank account I can see the Citi
Cards Bill Payment from my checking for $3,000 on 1/18/05. I can also see
on 1/20/05 the same transaction as an electronic payment notice from Citi
Bank when I downloaded their statement.

Should I just delete one? Would this mess up my next reconciliation?

Thanks again!

-- Ed


(Please delete the 'REMOVE-THIS' and '2000' from my e-mail address to reply
directly.)
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Ed wrote:
> > I am new to Microsoft Money and while things seem to be going very well I
> > have a few transactions that I don't know how to catagorize.
> > > How should the following be catagorized?
> > > #1. An automatic withdrawl from my main checking account to saving? (And

> > in
> > the Savings Account, what should the 'deposit' be catagorized as?)

> Transfer:SavingsAccount, and at the other end it will appear as
> Transfer:MainChecking.
> > > #2. Deposit to main checking account?

> Depends.
> > > #3 Payment to a credit card from the main checking account? (And in the

> > Credit Card Account, I seem to have a double-entry for a payment. But I am
> > hesitant to just delete one of them. One came from downloading the info
> > from
> > my credit card company, while the other came from downloading my statement
> > from my checking account.

> Here are two ways I like:
> 1. When you process the first transaction of the credit card
> payment, set the category as a transfer to the other ( credit card
> or bank account), or use the equivalent "SPECIAL Credit Card
> Payment" category. When you process the second transaction,Money
> should match it. Be careful to not just Accept if Money did not
> find the match on its own for some reason. Click Change and match
> it to the transfer you already made if Money did not match it for
> you. I would consider this the classic of the ways I like. Note
> that for this you would *not* use the Money 2005 "EXPENSE Credit
> Card Payment".
> 2. In method 2, don't handle credit card payments as transfers or
> the pre-defined "Credit Card Payment Instead create one category of
> "CC payment" or some such. If you define the category as an
> expense category, expect a warning when you use it to represent the
> payment within the credit card account -- if you have the warning
> enabled. Just click Yes in response to the warning. The category
> should net at zero in reports across accounts, and you can still
> customize to ignore the category if you like. use the Money 2005
> "EXPENSE Credit Card Payment". For this method you could use
> the Money 2005 "EXPENSE Credit Card Payment".



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Old 02-20-2005, 09:22 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Assigning proper transaction categories ?

Oooops. http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=147

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
message news:OOd8JE5FFHA.2824[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> See answers below.
> "Ed" <ecorreia.REMOVE-THIS[at]pacbell.2000.net> wrote in message
> news:eDFhP74FFHA.2568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I am new to Microsoft Money and while things seem to be going very well I
> > have a few transactions that I don't know how to catagorize.
> > > How should the following be catagorized?
> > > #1. An automatic withdrawl from my main checking account to saving? (And

> > in the Savings Account, what should the 'deposit' be catagorized as?)

> Transfer:[name of savings acct] in the checking account. This will also
> take care of the other half and become a Transfer:[name of checking acct]
> transaction in the savings acct. Transfer is a very important "special
> category" that is used, one way or another, for any activity that makes
> you neither richer (income) or poorer (expense). Since this is money you
> had then and have now, it's not income or expense--it's a classic
> Transfer.
> > #2. Deposit to main checking account?

> It depends. Why did you receive the money? Wages:Bonus? Investment
> Income:Interest? Other income:Rebates and misc? Other income:Ebay
> proceeds? You can call it whatever you want. The category is just a way to
> collect the data with enough information to enable analysis for things
> like taxes and budget.
> > #3 Payment to a credit card from the main checking account? (And in the
> > Credit Card Account, I seem to have a double-entry for a payment. But I
> > am hesitant to just delete one of them. One came from downloading the
> > info from my credit card company, while the other came from downloading
> > my statement from my checking account.

> Transfer:[name of credit card] is generally the best thing to put in the
> checking account that paid the bill. As you note, this will also show up
> in the credit card account register. That's the beauty of it. Since you
> leaped to downloading transactions without understanding some of this
> stuff, you might want to read http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=x147 and
> http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?cat=13.



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Old 02-20-2005, 08:13 PM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: Assigning proper transaction categories ?

See answers below.

"Ed" <ecorreia.REMOVE-THIS[at]pacbell.2000.net> wrote in message
news:eDFhP74FFHA.2568[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I am new to Microsoft Money and while things seem to be going very well I
> have a few transactions that I don't know how to catagorize.
> How should the following be catagorized?
> #1. An automatic withdrawl from my main checking account to saving? (And
> in the Savings Account, what should the 'deposit' be catagorized as?)


Transfer:[name of savings acct] in the checking account. This will also take
care of the other half and become a Transfer:[name of checking acct]
transaction in the savings acct. Transfer is a very important "special
category" that is used, one way or another, for any activity that makes you
neither richer (income) or poorer (expense). Since this is money you had
then and have now, it's not income or expense--it's a classic Transfer.

- quote -

> #2. Deposit to main checking account?

It depends. Why did you receive the money? Wages:Bonus? Investment
Income:Interest? Other income:Rebates and misc? Other income:Ebay proceeds?
You can call it whatever you want. The category is just a way to collect the
data with enough information to enable analysis for things like taxes and
budget.

- quote -

> #3 Payment to a credit card from the main checking account? (And in the
> Credit Card Account, I seem to have a double-entry for a payment. But I am
> hesitant to just delete one of them. One came from downloading the info
> from my credit card company, while the other came from downloading my
> statement from my checking account.


Transfer:[name of credit card] is generally the best thing to put in the
checking account that paid the bill. As you note, this will also show up in
the credit card account register. That's the beauty of it. Since you leaped
to downloading transactions without understanding some of this stuff, you
might want to read http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?q=x147 and
http://umpmfaq.info/faqdb.php?cat=13.


 
Old 02-20-2005, 08:02 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: Assigning proper transaction categories ?

In microsoft.public.money, Ed wrote:

- quote -

> I am new to Microsoft Money and while things seem to be going very well I
> have a few transactions that I don't know how to catagorize.
> How should the following be catagorized?
> #1. An automatic withdrawl from my main checking account to saving? (And in
> the Savings Account, what should the 'deposit' be catagorized as?)


Transfer:SavingsAccount, and at the other end it will appear as
Transfer:MainChecking.

- quote -

> #2. Deposit to main checking account?

Depends.

- quote -

> #3 Payment to a credit card from the main checking account? (And in the
> Credit Card Account, I seem to have a double-entry for a payment. But I am
> hesitant to just delete one of them. One came from downloading the info from
> my credit card company, while the other came from downloading my statement
> from my checking account.


Here are two ways I like:

1. When you process the first transaction of the credit card
payment, set the category as a transfer to the other ( credit card
or bank account), or use the equivalent "SPECIAL Credit Card
Payment" category. When you process the second transaction,Money
should match it. Be careful to not just Accept if Money did not
find the match on its own for some reason. Click Change and match
it to the transfer you already made if Money did not match it for
you. I would consider this the classic of the ways I like. Note
that for this you would *not* use the Money 2005 "EXPENSE Credit
Card Payment".

2. In method 2, don't handle credit card payments as transfers or
the pre-defined "Credit Card Payment Instead create one category of
"CC payment" or some such. If you define the category as an
expense category, expect a warning when you use it to represent the
payment within the credit card account -- if you have the warning
enabled. Just click Yes in response to the warning. The category
should net at zero in reports across accounts, and you can still
customize to ignore the category if you like. use the Money 2005
"EXPENSE Credit Card Payment". For this method you could use
the Money 2005 "EXPENSE Credit Card Payment".

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:58 PM
Ed
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Default Assigning proper transaction categories ?

I am new to Microsoft Money and while things seem to be going very well I
have a few transactions that I don't know how to catagorize.

How should the following be catagorized?

#1. An automatic withdrawl from my main checking account to saving? (And in
the Savings Account, what should the 'deposit' be catagorized as?)

#2. Deposit to main checking account?

#3 Payment to a credit card from the main checking account? (And in the
Credit Card Account, I seem to have a double-entry for a payment. But I am
hesitant to just delete one of them. One came from downloading the info from
my credit card company, while the other came from downloading my statement
from my checking account.

Thanks in advance!

-- Ed
(Please delete the 'REMOVE-THIS' and '2000' from my e-mail address to reply
directly.)


 

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