Thanks, I understand.

Steve

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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: First, understand that Transfer is the general form for doing this,
: regardless of whether the target is a credit card account or a liability
: account. (Loan accounts use Loan Payment to automatically compute the
: interest component on an amortizing loan. A Loan Payment is computed from
: the total to be part interest expense/income and part transfer.) "Credit
: Card Payment" was added some time ago--Transfer has always been there--to
: confuse people into thinking that paying a credit card was somehow not a
: Transfer. It is. Since Transfer is normative and equally functional, I
: recommend its use instead of Credit Card Payment. M05 added a new Expense
: category called Credit Card Payments/Transfer to further muddy the waters
as
: to what Credit Card Payment and Transfer are. I'd recommend deleting this
: unless you are using Essential Register which I wouldn't recommend doing.
: Credit Card Payments/Transfer just causes confusion and bad data on
: expenses.
:
: Now, as to your second issue of the check numbers, I'm a little mystified
by
: this. I cannot duplicate the behavior of seeing the check number entered
in
: the source account in the register of the target account of a Credit Card
: Payment:[target] in M04. In M05, using two Advanced Register accounts, I
see
: the exact same behavior. In both versions, for the case of both a Credit
: Card Payment and a Transfer, I can enter a different number (or the same
: number if I feel like it) in each account register the transfer appears
in.
: These are separate numbers, though they may be equal.
:
: So, I conclude:
:
: 1) You may be using M05 Essential Registers which may work different and
: about which I know nothing,
: 2) You may be using downloaded data and the FIs load a number in the
credit
: card half of the transaction you ultimately match,
: 3) You can enter whatever number you want in the number field of the
: receiving half of the Transfer in your liability account by hand if you
: want. (I verified this in an M04 test file for a Liability account and a
: Transfer transaction.)
:
: I'm not sure why you'd want a check number from one account to show up as
a
: transaction number in another account's register. It would seem misleading
: to me.
:
: "Steve Thompson" <stthomp[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
: news:eivicr8%23EHA.3124[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
: > I'm using Money Deluxe 2005 and I have created several credit card
: > accounts.
: > When I enter a transaction into my checking account I can select a
: > category
: > to be paid to that specific credit card account and everything transfers
: > to
: > the proper credit card account including the check number written.
: : > Now I just created 2 more accounts as liabilities (Not Loans) although
: > they
: > are loans but loans from friends, not banks. The only categories for
these
: > loans are Transfer. Whereas, with my credit card accounts I have both
: > transfer and Credit Card Payment options to the specific credit card
: > accounts. But the only category option I have for the Liability account
is
: > Transfer. This is a little confusing to me because when I look at the
: > Liability register, the check number doesn't show and the category is
: > Transfer and there seems to be no way to enter the check number that was
: > written to that account. Yes I can see the check number written in my
: > checking account register but not the liability register. How can I
change
: > this so that I can record a payment in my checking account register just
: > like I would like making a credit card payment, Number one. And number
: > two,
: > How can I get the check number to show up in the liability account
: > register?
: : > I'm not doing a direct online bank transfer to this liability account.
:
:

First, understand that Transfer is the general form for doing this,
regardless of whether the target is a credit card account or a liability
account. (Loan accounts use Loan Payment to automatically compute the
interest component on an amortizing loan. A Loan Payment is computed from
the total to be part interest expense/income and part transfer.) "Credit
Card Payment" was added some time ago--Transfer has always been there--to
confuse people into thinking that paying a credit card was somehow not a
Transfer. It is. Since Transfer is normative and equally functional, I
recommend its use instead of Credit Card Payment. M05 added a new Expense
category called Credit Card Payments/Transfer to further muddy the waters as
to what Credit Card Payment and Transfer are. I'd recommend deleting this
unless you are using Essential Register which I wouldn't recommend doing.
Credit Card Payments/Transfer just causes confusion and bad data on
expenses.

Now, as to your second issue of the check numbers, I'm a little mystified by
this. I cannot duplicate the behavior of seeing the check number entered in
the source account in the register of the target account of a Credit Card
Payment:[target] in M04. In M05, using two Advanced Register accounts, I see
the exact same behavior. In both versions, for the case of both a Credit
Card Payment and a Transfer, I can enter a different number (or the same
number if I feel like it) in each account register the transfer appears in.
These are separate numbers, though they may be equal.

So, I conclude:

1) You may be using M05 Essential Registers which may work different and
about which I know nothing,
2) You may be using downloaded data and the FIs load a number in the credit
card half of the transaction you ultimately match,
3) You can enter whatever number you want in the number field of the
receiving half of the Transfer in your liability account by hand if you
want. (I verified this in an M04 test file for a Liability account and a
Transfer transaction.)

I'm not sure why you'd want a check number from one account to show up as a
transaction number in another account's register. It would seem misleading
to me.

"Steve Thompson" <stthomp[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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- quote -

Hello all,

I'm using Money Deluxe 2005 and I have created several credit card accounts.
When I enter a transaction into my checking account I can select a category
to be paid to that specific credit card account and everything transfers to
the proper credit card account including the check number written.

Now I just created 2 more accounts as liabilities (Not Loans) although they
are loans but loans from friends, not banks. The only categories for these
loans are Transfer. Whereas, with my credit card accounts I have both
transfer and Credit Card Payment options to the specific credit card
accounts. But the only category option I have for the Liability account is
Transfer. This is a little confusing to me because when I look at the
Liability register, the check number doesn't show and the category is
Transfer and there seems to be no way to enter the check number that was
written to that account. Yes I can see the check number written in my
checking account register but not the liability register. How can I change
this so that I can record a payment in my checking account register just
like I would like making a credit card payment, Number one. And number two,
How can I get the check number to show up in the liability account register?

I'm not doing a direct online bank transfer to this liability account.

TIA,

-U