Do you know of a way to create test cases to verify these?

"Michael Gordon, MVP" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message
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Money 2005 seems to have fixed the hidden transaction problem in two ways:
1. By dealing with the suspect transactions while converting
2. Preventing this from happening again.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"Mark" <abcd[at]abcd.com> wrote in message
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You might try the QIF export/import method described in
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;838713 to see if
this is another example of the "hidden" transaction problem.

-Mark
"Arge" <bigbc37(nospam)[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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thanks

Bob
"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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BTW, I think I will update q=104 just to note this issue and note that
running the repair tools doesn't necessarily repair and that not all
corruption symptoms are easily manifested. You'll be immortal.

"Arge" <bigbc37(nospam)[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No doubt about that.

If I were trying to tackle this in Money, I'd do something like transfer all
the (still visible) transactions to a new account, then delete the old
account, then rename the new account back to the old name. Who knows, you
might have to do this to accounts on both sides. I've had to do that once in
12 years of using Money. Before I went to all that trouble, I'd try (in
copies of the main file) deleting one account or the other or both to see a)
if it would even let me delete the account(s)--failure to do so would be a
smoking gun, and b) to see if doing so removed any manifestations of the
problems you've seen lo these many years.

But the fact that this transaction goes back to May, 2003, may suggest that
this has been a (solitary???) nagging problem, NEVER rooted out. The problem
with the repair tools is that they clearly don't fix everything. In your
case, the problem never uniformly manifested itself--or you never found a
way to get it to do so. That makes it VERY hard since you cannot tell if the
repair actually fixed the problem or if there is more work/other
techniques--like one noted above--that need to be tried before declaring
victory and moving on.

So, given that possibility is actually what's been going on--*****and I
agree that there is insufficient data to say this for sure*****--I'd still
stand by the notion that the source of your never-ending corruption
experience was something, well, in your environment. It was a problem that
NEVER got rooted out of the data file and remained out there in the
environment, when you didn't think it was there, until it came back to
manifest itself another day. Granted the root cause was corruption in nature
and I've never doubted that this can happen. But this would not be a
never-ending series of serial corruption incidents randomly occurring due to
some fundamental and high probability tendency of Money to corrupt every
file it touches for every user who uses it, which I have doubted. It was
just one really tenacious corruption incident.

Hi Dick

After all this time, I may have found my problem in money and I am sure you
would be interested in it since you tried to help me for so long with the
corruption problems I was having.

For quite awhile now I have felt that it had some to do with a Credit Card
account as most of the time that I received a report on what the Salvage
tools repaired it usually showed a transaction and if I remember right it
was always a payment to this account.

As I noted the other day, since I loaded Quicken, Money has not froze on
my.....not once and I was starting to think Quicken's presence was
intimidating the money program.

I am using the same file I used in Money, but since using Quicken's
conversion file I noticed the American Express was off by 585.29 in both
Money and Quicken and I have never had to make an adjustment when balancing
the accounts. Today I received my Bank statement and when I started
balancing it, I found it was off by 585.29. At first I didn't remember what
accounts I had adjusted several days ago and by how much, but I started
thinking about the Salvage reports showing American Express as having the
problem.

I scan all of bills so I ran a report of all payments to American Express
and compared it to the scanned documents and I found the payment of My 16,
2003 for 585.29 was no longer in checking or the American Express account in
neither Quicken nor Money. That date is approximately the time that I
started having my corruption problems after starting over for the sixth or
7th time.

Anyway I am not for sure, but it sure does "smell" like corruption.

Bob