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Old 04-19-2005, 03:47 PM
jaguardmymail@yahoo.com
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Default RE: MS Money 2005 hangs, other problems too

4-19-05 Problem resolved in upgrading to WxpProf sp2! Thanks to all posters

"jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com" wrote:

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> 1-7-05Pardon this verbose post but having perused previous posts without
> resolution to my MS Money 2005 woes I need to explain the scenario. Being a
> dissatisfied past Quicken user I converted to MS Money 2000 Standard Edition
> program which was offered preinstalled as well. Have had better results with
> it than with Quicken, and liked many of the features which Quicken did not
> offer. This is my first MS Money upgrade since previous version. (Recent
> TaxCut purchase offered “free”(after the rebate) Ms Money 2005, Standard
> Edition so I upgraded).
> Installation OK, even with running older version as well. Since I have
> accounts affiliated and with the click on a link one assumes the upgrade
> converts the old files to new, right? During the installation I chose not to
> uninstall previous MS Money versions (MS unrecommended but in the readme text
> file two concurrent running versions are supported by MS) so that shouldn’t
> be a problem.
> Since upgrading Money version the program semi opens/ “hangs”/ and I get a
> Money 2005 not responding if I close out running programs. This occurs after
> I do a reinstall, with disabling current firewall and Virus Scanner programs
> running on system, and closing programs/ deleting some to free up memory on
> system. (Currently system resources [at] 65% free but vacillated between 89%,
> and 39%).
> Sometimes I get as far as an update is available for MS Money 2005 and
> tries to locate, then program stops responding. So far I have been unable to
> download that update; haven’t been able to locate external to my Money 2005
> program either.
> I plan to upgrade Windows xp OS soon, but I noticed someone running the new
> OS has the same problem so that eliminates Windows 98, SE from being the
> culprit. Box lists as a compatible OS for the program anyway. I am running
> IE6 w/SP1(have 128 bit encryption), have adjusted the intranet security
> settings, cookies are enabled, and my ISP is 32-bit WinSock compliant. I
> tried a salvage recover file of the sample.mny file which does open, does go
> through the repair but leaves me with a sample file, and eventually responds
> not responding too. When I check the former version file conversion which it
> completed I get a message file cannot be located, and I must restore from a
> backup. I have my MS Money 2000 files backed up on floppy (which does
> restore) but I do not want to go back to restoring from floppy all the time.
> Any suggestions to:
> a)getting new program running,
> b)keeping the two versions distinct running separately (I have created two
> different paths to them when I installed but when I go to convert the files
> one combines with the other creating much confusion of file icons, changing
> icons (some new 2005 files now have the 2000 file icon, and vice versa),
> Incidentally the *.mn8 for the converted MS Money 2000 files into 2005 files
> opens as a sample file so I discarded it.
> c)link to update download external to program- sorry, msncentral.msn.com
> didn’t do it for me, Brent.
> d)Sometimes I dial up with a dialup connection in My Computer folder if the
> ISP icon isn’t working/ responding properly (~50%of the time). Do I need to
> disable WinSock if I do that and if so where do I find that? (as per read me
> .txt file).
> Thanks in advance to any responders.

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Old 01-08-2005, 12:28 PM
Art McClinton
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Default Re: MS Money 2005 hangs, other problems too

I agree with Cal but have found one additional thing that appears to
cause Money 05 problems. With the spyware that attacks IE you can get
strange hangs within Money that are caused by Money using IE which is
the one actually hanging and not responding. I suggest that you get
Ad-Aware, Spy-bot, or even the new MS Spyware removal program. Make
certain that its database is current and run it to verify that you do
not have spyware on you computer.

Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, "jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com"
> <jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > 1-7-05Pardon this verbose post but having perused previous posts without
> > resolution to my MS Money 2005 woes I need to explain the scenario. Being a
> > dissatisfied past Quicken user I converted to MS Money 2000 Standard Edition
> > program which was offered preinstalled as well. Have had better results with
> > it than with Quicken, and liked many of the features which Quicken did not
> > offer. This is my first MS Money upgrade since previous version. (Recent
> > TaxCut purchase offered free(after the rebate) Ms Money 2005, Standard
> > Edition so I upgraded).
> > Installation OK, even with running older version as well. Since I have
> > accounts affiliated and with the click on a link one assumes the upgrade
> > converts the old files to new, right? During the installation I chose not to
> > uninstall previous MS Money versions (MS unrecommended but in the readme text
> > file two concurrent running versions are supported by MS) so that shouldnt
> > be a problem.
> > Since upgrading Money version the program semi opens/ hangs/ and I get a
> > Money 2005 not responding if I close out running programs. This occurs after
> > I do a reinstall, with disabling current firewall and Virus Scanner programs
> > running on system, and closing programs/ deleting some to free up memory on
> > system. (Currently system resources [at] 65% free but vacillated between 89%,
> > and 39%).
> > Sometimes I get as far as an update is available for MS Money 2005 and
> > tries to locate, then program stops responding. So far I have been unable to
> > download that update; havent been able to locate external to my Money 2005
> > program either.
> > I plan to upgrade Windows xp OS soon, but I noticed someone running the new
> > OS has the same problem so that eliminates Windows 98, SE from being the
> > culprit. Box lists as a compatible OS for the program anyway. I am running
> > IE6 w/SP1(have 128 bit encryption), have adjusted the intranet security
> > settings, cookies are enabled, and my ISP is 32-bit WinSock compliant. I
> > tried a salvage recover file of the sample.mny file which does open, does go
> > through the repair but leaves me with a sample file, and eventually responds
> > not responding too. When I check the former version file conversion which it
> > completed I get a message file cannot be located, and I must restore from a
> > backup. I have my MS Money 2000 files backed up on floppy (which does
> > restore) but I do not want to go back to restoring from floppy all the time.
> > Any suggestions to:
> > a)getting new program running,

> If you were using XP, I would try creating a new user with
> Administrator privilege. Switch to that user and start Money with a
> new blank file. Let Money download the updates as that user.
> The theory is that if the problem is an IE6 setting, you will get
> default settings for the new user. If you succeed this way, it
> would accomplish the download, and it would point toward the reason
> the other did not work. You can delete the new user later, and
> your regular IE6 settings will not have been changed.
> So I suggest that you go to IE6 and first reset the Security Zones,
> do your update, and then tighten your system again. You can take
> notes on your setting before resetting the
> Start with
> Tools-> Options-> Security-> LocalIntranet-> DefaultLevel which may be
> sufficient.
> My IE6 Tools-> InternetOptions-> Security Trusted Sites list include
> these:
> *.fdl.msn.com *.moneycentral.msn.com login.passport.net
> *.microsoft.com
> There may be more that you would need. Those sites not listed will
> be handled by the Internet zone.
> I uncheck the "Require server verification" box.
> You can try the DefaultLevel Internet Zone security too, but don't
> forget to tighten things back up when done.
> > b)keeping the two versions distinct running separately (I have created two
> > different paths to them when I installed but when I go to convert the files
> > one combines with the other creating much confusion of file icons, changing
> > icons (some new 2005 files now have the 2000 file icon, and vice versa),
> > Incidentally the *.mn8 for the converted MS Money 2000 files into 2005 files
> > opens as a sample file so I discarded it.
> > c)link to update download external to program- sorry, msncentral.msn.com
> > didnt do it for me, Brent.

> I suggest possibly renaming the .mny files to incorporate the
> version into the filename.
> Don't use file icons to try to open the earlier-installed version.
> Go with File-> Open within Money at first. Then rely on each
> version's MRU list to let you go to the right file.
> > d)Sometimes I dial up with a dialup connection in My Computer folder if the
> > ISP icon isnt working/ responding properly (~50%of the time). Do I need to
> > disable WinSock if I do that and if so where do I find that? (as per read me
> > .txt file).

> You might try IE6-> -> Connections and specify to never dial a
> connection. That way you will not autodial, and can control the
> dialing yourself. I am not sure if this addresses your question, but
> it is the way I would operate on dialup.


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Old 01-08-2005, 01:17 AM
krogerb
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Default RE: MS Money 2005 hangs, other problems too

I understand your frustration. I have been a MS Money user from the very
first version and have upgraded each year. Big Mistake!! Last years'
version ran slowly and this year seems to be no exception. I am using XP OS
and hi mem and Athlon processor so it is not the machine or OS. I am ready
to unload all MS Money and revert to Money 2003 (seems like the last version
that worked efficiently). Sorry I cannot help you with your other questions.

rgb1124[at]cox.net

"jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com" wrote:

- quote -

> 1-7-05Pardon this verbose post but having perused previous posts without
> resolution to my MS Money 2005 woes I need to explain the scenario. Being a
> dissatisfied past Quicken user I converted to MS Money 2000 Standard Edition
> program which was offered preinstalled as well. Have had better results with
> it than with Quicken, and liked many of the features which Quicken did not
> offer. This is my first MS Money upgrade since previous version. (Recent
> TaxCut purchase offered “free”(after the rebate) Ms Money 2005, Standard
> Edition so I upgraded).
> Installation OK, even with running older version as well. Since I have
> accounts affiliated and with the click on a link one assumes the upgrade
> converts the old files to new, right? During the installation I chose not to
> uninstall previous MS Money versions (MS unrecommended but in the readme text
> file two concurrent running versions are supported by MS) so that shouldn’t
> be a problem.
> Since upgrading Money version the program semi opens/ “hangs”/ and I get a
> Money 2005 not responding if I close out running programs. This occurs after
> I do a reinstall, with disabling current firewall and Virus Scanner programs
> running on system, and closing programs/ deleting some to free up memory on
> system. (Currently system resources [at] 65% free but vacillated between 89%,
> and 39%).
> Sometimes I get as far as an update is available for MS Money 2005 and
> tries to locate, then program stops responding. So far I have been unable to
> download that update; haven’t been able to locate external to my Money 2005
> program either.
> I plan to upgrade Windows xp OS soon, but I noticed someone running the new
> OS has the same problem so that eliminates Windows 98, SE from being the
> culprit. Box lists as a compatible OS for the program anyway. I am running
> IE6 w/SP1(have 128 bit encryption), have adjusted the intranet security
> settings, cookies are enabled, and my ISP is 32-bit WinSock compliant. I
> tried a salvage recover file of the sample.mny file which does open, does go
> through the repair but leaves me with a sample file, and eventually responds
> not responding too. When I check the former version file conversion which it
> completed I get a message file cannot be located, and I must restore from a
> backup. I have my MS Money 2000 files backed up on floppy (which does
> restore) but I do not want to go back to restoring from floppy all the time.
> Any suggestions to:
> a)getting new program running,
> b)keeping the two versions distinct running separately (I have created two
> different paths to them when I installed but when I go to convert the files
> one combines with the other creating much confusion of file icons, changing
> icons (some new 2005 files now have the 2000 file icon, and vice versa),
> Incidentally the *.mn8 for the converted MS Money 2000 files into 2005 files
> opens as a sample file so I discarded it.
> c)link to update download external to program- sorry, msncentral.msn.com
> didn’t do it for me, Brent.
> d)Sometimes I dial up with a dialup connection in My Computer folder if the
> ISP icon isn’t working/ responding properly (~50%of the time). Do I need to
> disable WinSock if I do that and if so where do I find that? (as per read me
> .txt file).
> Thanks in advance to any responders.

 
Old 01-07-2005, 09:50 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: MS Money 2005 hangs, other problems too

In microsoft.public.money, "jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com"
<jaguardmymail[at]yahoo.com[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

- quote -

> 1-7-05Pardon this verbose post but having perused previous posts without
> resolution to my MS Money 2005 woes I need to explain the scenario. Being a
> dissatisfied past Quicken user I converted to MS Money 2000 Standard Edition
> program which was offered preinstalled as well. Have had better results with
> it than with Quicken, and liked many of the features which Quicken did not
> offer. This is my first MS Money upgrade since previous version. (Recent
> TaxCut purchase offered free(after the rebate) Ms Money 2005, Standard
> Edition so I upgraded).
> Installation OK, even with running older version as well. Since I have
> accounts affiliated and with the click on a link one assumes the upgrade
> converts the old files to new, right? During the installation I chose not to
> uninstall previous MS Money versions (MS unrecommended but in the readme text
> file two concurrent running versions are supported by MS) so that shouldnt
> be a problem.
> Since upgrading Money version the program semi opens/ hangs/ and I get a
> Money 2005 not responding if I close out running programs. This occurs after
> I do a reinstall, with disabling current firewall and Virus Scanner programs
> running on system, and closing programs/ deleting some to free up memory on
> system. (Currently system resources [at] 65% free but vacillated between 89%,
> and 39%).
> Sometimes I get as far as an update is available for MS Money 2005 and
> tries to locate, then program stops responding. So far I have been unable to
> download that update; havent been able to locate external to my Money 2005
> program either.
> I plan to upgrade Windows xp OS soon, but I noticed someone running the new
> OS has the same problem so that eliminates Windows 98, SE from being the
> culprit. Box lists as a compatible OS for the program anyway. I am running
> IE6 w/SP1(have 128 bit encryption), have adjusted the intranet security
> settings, cookies are enabled, and my ISP is 32-bit WinSock compliant. I
> tried a salvage recover file of the sample.mny file which does open, does go
> through the repair but leaves me with a sample file, and eventually responds
> not responding too. When I check the former version file conversion which it
> completed I get a message file cannot be located, and I must restore from a
> backup. I have my MS Money 2000 files backed up on floppy (which does
> restore) but I do not want to go back to restoring from floppy all the time.
> Any suggestions to:
> a)getting new program running,


If you were using XP, I would try creating a new user with
Administrator privilege. Switch to that user and start Money with a
new blank file. Let Money download the updates as that user.

The theory is that if the problem is an IE6 setting, you will get
default settings for the new user. If you succeed this way, it
would accomplish the download, and it would point toward the reason
the other did not work. You can delete the new user later, and
your regular IE6 settings will not have been changed.

So I suggest that you go to IE6 and first reset the Security Zones,
do your update, and then tighten your system again. You can take
notes on your setting before resetting the

Start with
Tools-> Options-> Security-> LocalIntranet-> DefaultLevel which may be
sufficient.

My IE6 Tools-> InternetOptions-> Security Trusted Sites list include
these:

*.fdl.msn.com *.moneycentral.msn.com login.passport.net
*.microsoft.com

There may be more that you would need. Those sites not listed will
be handled by the Internet zone.

I uncheck the "Require server verification" box.

You can try the DefaultLevel Internet Zone security too, but don't
forget to tighten things back up when done.





- quote -

> b)keeping the two versions distinct running separately (I have created two
> different paths to them when I installed but when I go to convert the files
> one combines with the other creating much confusion of file icons, changing
> icons (some new 2005 files now have the 2000 file icon, and vice versa),
> Incidentally the *.mn8 for the converted MS Money 2000 files into 2005 files
> opens as a sample file so I discarded it.
> c)link to update download external to program- sorry, msncentral.msn.com
> didnt do it for me, Brent.


I suggest possibly renaming the .mny files to incorporate the
version into the filename.


Don't use file icons to try to open the earlier-installed version.
Go with File-> Open within Money at first. Then rely on each
version's MRU list to let you go to the right file.



- quote -

> d)Sometimes I dial up with a dialup connection in My Computer folder if the
> ISP icon isnt working/ responding properly (~50%of the time). Do I need to
> disable WinSock if I do that and if so where do I find that? (as per read me
> .txt file).


You might try IE6-> -> Connections and specify to never dial a
connection. That way you will not autodial, and can control the
dialing yourself. I am not sure if this addresses your question, but
it is the way I would operate on dialup.


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Old 01-07-2005, 09:11 PM
jaguardmymail@yahoo.com
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Default MS Money 2005 hangs, other problems too

1-7-05Pardon this verbose post but having perused previous posts without
resolution to my MS Money 2005 woes I need to explain the scenario. Being a
dissatisfied past Quicken user I converted to MS Money 2000 Standard Edition
program which was offered preinstalled as well. Have had better results with
it than with Quicken, and liked many of the features which Quicken did not
offer. This is my first MS Money upgrade since previous version. (Recent
TaxCut purchase offered “free”(after the rebate) Ms Money 2005, Standard
Edition so I upgraded).
Installation OK, even with running older version as well. Since I have
accounts affiliated and with the click on a link one assumes the upgrade
converts the old files to new, right? During the installation I chose not to
uninstall previous MS Money versions (MS unrecommended but in the readme text
file two concurrent running versions are supported by MS) so that shouldn’t
be a problem.
Since upgrading Money version the program semi opens/ “hangs”/ and I get a
Money 2005 not responding if I close out running programs. This occurs after
I do a reinstall, with disabling current firewall and Virus Scanner programs
running on system, and closing programs/ deleting some to free up memory on
system. (Currently system resources [at] 65% free but vacillated between 89%,
and 39%).
Sometimes I get as far as an update is available for MS Money 2005 and
tries to locate, then program stops responding. So far I have been unable to
download that update; haven’t been able to locate external to my Money 2005
program either.
I plan to upgrade Windows xp OS soon, but I noticed someone running the new
OS has the same problem so that eliminates Windows 98, SE from being the
culprit. Box lists as a compatible OS for the program anyway. I am running
IE6 w/SP1(have 128 bit encryption), have adjusted the intranet security
settings, cookies are enabled, and my ISP is 32-bit WinSock compliant. I
tried a salvage recover file of the sample.mny file which does open, does go
through the repair but leaves me with a sample file, and eventually responds
not responding too. When I check the former version file conversion which it
completed I get a message file cannot be located, and I must restore from a
backup. I have my MS Money 2000 files backed up on floppy (which does
restore) but I do not want to go back to restoring from floppy all the time.
Any suggestions to:
a)getting new program running,
b)keeping the two versions distinct running separately (I have created two
different paths to them when I installed but when I go to convert the files
one combines with the other creating much confusion of file icons, changing
icons (some new 2005 files now have the 2000 file icon, and vice versa),
Incidentally the *.mn8 for the converted MS Money 2000 files into 2005 files
opens as a sample file so I discarded it.
c)link to update download external to program- sorry, msncentral.msn.com
didn’t do it for me, Brent.
d)Sometimes I dial up with a dialup connection in My Computer folder if the
ISP icon isn’t working/ responding properly (~50%of the time). Do I need to
disable WinSock if I do that and if so where do I find that? (as per read me
..txt file).

Thanks in advance to any responders.

 

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