Since you mentioned the "USB printer", you might try adding a completely
different printer and make it the default (set it to print to "File" instead
of to any port) and see if that has any impact. I'm doubtful. But, who
knows, maybe you've stumbled upon something with respect to how Money
interacts with certain printers.

-Mark
"wiredup" <wiredup[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, wiredup wrote:

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Some may be, but rebooting would be the consequence I would expect.
I would not do that while I was in the middle of a long editing
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Here is a search that may offer an idea or so:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...04&safe=images

I wasn't sure if I could kill off svchost.exe processes without crashing the
system. It appeared that some of the .dll's were critical components of the
WinXP OS.

As soon as I return home on Friday, I'll check this out.

Thanks, Jason

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Are you saying you don't know which instance of svchost.exe is
eating cycles?

You know how much memory that instance takes, and you can see which
process takes that much memory.

You could kill that instance and see which disappears... however if
a particular instance is taking the time, I don't know what that
would tell you.

Reduce the priority of an instance of an/each svchost.exe to see if
that reduces the slowing (as a trouble shooting technique).

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560 may
offer an idea.

But I agree that your symptoms don't seem to match a pattern of
other people reporting the same.

Hmm, looks like I might need to do a reinstall of XP. Apparently, the
symptoms I am experience are unique. I guess the problem is that I do not
which application is misbehaving.

I did see online, relating to svchost.exe, that a USB printer was "polling"
too often causing the CPU utilization to jump.

Otherwise, I think I'm on my own.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, GWU Student wrote:

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:svchost.exe 804 DcomLaunch, TermService
:svchost.exe 860 RpcSs
:svchost.exe 928 AudioSrv, BITS, Browser, CryptSvc, Dhcp,
: dmserver, ERSvc, EventSystem,
: FastUserSwitchingCompatibility, helpsvc,
: lanmanserver, lanmanworkstation, Netman,
: Nla, RasAuto, RasMan, Schedule, seclogon,
: SENS, SharedAccess, ShellHWDetection,
: srservice, TapiSrv, Themes, TrkWks, W32Time,
: winmgmt, wscsvc, wuauserv, WZCSVC
:svchost.exe 972 Dnscache
:svchost.exe 1012 LmHosts, RemoteRegistry, SSDPSRV, WebClient
:spoolsv.exe 1260 Spooler
:explorer.exe 1624 N/A
oint32.exe 1680 N/A
:TaskSwitch.exe 1696 N/A
:PTFB.exe 1720 N/A
:PERSFW.exe 1816 PersFw
:svchost.exe 1880 stisvc
:wdfmgr.exe 1944 UMWdf
:alg.exe 1328 ALG
:iexplore.exe 1488 N/A
:svchost.exe 1920 HTTPFilter

That was much more similar than I would have guessed. I have 15
windows open currently, including Money 2005. I also have Ad-Aware
open, having just done a scan.

I also compared vs task manager, and I found two more than I had
originally pasted. I first saw 5 contiguous instances, but I saw 7
in task manager. So I checked more carefully and decided to
copy/paste the section of the list that contained all 7.

My task manager System Idle Process is normally > 90 in the CPU
column except for brief intervals.

That KB article had a different command that would give the amount
of memory for a given instance using the PID. The amount of memory
is listed in task manager. The memory amount would then be a key to
identify which instance is which in task manager to relate which is
burning CPU time.

In microsoft.public.money, GWU Student wrote:

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I don't often see CPU spike when running Money. When I do, it is of
limited time and during compression of the backup file from what I
remember. Other times the idle task seems to have a lot of time and
the disk waits seem to be the limiting factor. I usually only check
task manager when I hear disk activity for a while or things seem
slow. If they are slow for a few seconds I typically check Ping
Plotter, and then Task Manager.

Cal,
Per the CMD command: tasklist /SVC, I have the following:

svchost.exe 1192 DcomLaunch, TermService
svchost.exe 1248 RpcSs
svchost.exe 1288 AudioSrv, BITS, Browser, CryptSvc, Dhcp,
dmserver, ERSvc, EventSystem,
FastUserSwitchingCompatibility, helpsvc,
lanmanserver, lanmanworkstation, Netman,
Nla, RasMan, Schedule, seclogon, SENS,
SharedAccess, ShellHWDetection, srservice,
TapiSrv, Themes, TrkWks, W32Time, winmgmt,
wscsvc, wuauserv, WZCSVC
svchost.exe 1360 Dnscache
svchost.exe 1440 Alerter, LmHosts, SSDPSRV, WebClient

Note above: WebClient. Do you mind executing the same command and
comparing?

Thanks!


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** Comments below.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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** I guess it is not, but they are complicated. E.g., bought an investment
property. Had to do some "creative" transaction to ensure proper accounts
are debited/credited for EOY reporting. It would be an absolute pain.

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** hmmm, I guess Intuit and MSFT have similar challenges!

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** Yes. Some of which where a result of migrating to 05.

Hi Cal,

(comments below)

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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** I'm not running passport.

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** I will check into this...

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** Whether I run Money or not, the svchost.exe maximizing cpu time occurs.
I guess I cannot be completely sure Money is the problem. It just happened
to surface at the same time. Since both you and Dick aren't experiencing
the same problem as I, then I might be barking up the wrong tree.

** When you all see CPU time spike, it's while running Money and msmoney.exe
is the problem, am I correct?

Comments below.

"GWU Student" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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I guess that doesn't seem like all that many transactions to me, but you
have to decide what's appropriate in your case.

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It's hard to say what that means. Maybe something, maybe nothing. Lots of
new M users (prior to M05 anyway) come here complaining about Q and Intuit's
support or lack thereof.

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Have you closed lots of accounts since 9/20?

In microsoft.public.money, GWU Student wrote:

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Do you need a Passport on your file? You might consider making a
copy of your file. Then remove the Passport on your working file.

There are some feature that will not work that way, but you may not
find a problem with that.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314056 writes of svchost.exe. I
don't know that it will tell you anything useful to identify the
problem. Having svchost.exe taking up significant CPU time starting
with when you installed Money seems strange.

Are you saying that things are fine when you have rebooted since you
ran Money, but things bog down after you have run Money 2005?

I've been on M05 since 9/20 or so. I've had Money since 1996, but not all
data was in there. The problem is I have about 90 transactions in my
personal checking alone. Plus, i have investments sprawled all over the
place and investment properties w/ bank accounts. I have WAY too many
transactions to go back.

So, I'm on the fence about Quicken b/c it would make doing my taxes easier
at EOY, even though I don't like the interface as much. What I can say is
MSFT's newsgroups are hammered w/ complaints while very few complaints are
in Intuit's.

I tried to export/import, but reference transactions, to other accounts that
were closed, were killing me. So, either stay on M05 or go to Q05 in 2005.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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Why does anything I said mean you have to stay on M05? How much data did you
have in M04 before the upgrade and how long have you been entering data in
M05?

"GWU Student" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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Wow--everything! Well, it looks like i am stuck on Money 2005. I really
don't like Quicken 2005... Hopefully, M05 was the challenge of an
architecture change... maybe 06 will be better.

Thanks.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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That's certainly one strategy. It will get involved since you will have to
hand-edit the export files to remove the duplicates and get down to just the
subsequent ones. Depending on volume (i.e., how long it's been since you
upgraded) hand entering these is probably easiest. Of course, I say this as
someone who hand-enters EVERYTHING.

"GWU Student" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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so, the subsequent transactions... do an export/import?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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When you upgraded to M05, M04 left a backup file that was your M04 file,
just renamed *.M12. The only issue is entering subsequent transactions.

"GWU Student" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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Dick,

What would be your best recommendation for going back to 04? Export to .qif
? or what?

I've also purchased Quicken 2005. While this thing is blazing fast, I don't
think it is quite as feature rich and intuitive as Money.

JS


"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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My best M05 idea is Just Say No.

"GWU Student" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message
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