Cindy, I'm not a Money expert either, but have been using it since the mid-
nineties. Today it really stumped me and I have worked for hours trying to
resolve what I thought was my fault (it just might be). I use Money 2002 and
after reading some of the newsgroup entries about 2004 and 2005,
specifically, I don't want to upgrade anytime soon. Anyway, my problem is, I
deleted the password to the .Net Passport sign-in at the opening of Money and
now cannot get into my file! Does Microsoft have a "fix" to make the file
reset either the sign-in email address or the password? I am have the
password recorded and have never been successful in using the on-line
experience, only the "work off-line" version. Now it won't work either way
even though I've tried some of the fixes (use the registry to register the
DLL that may be corrupted) deleted Internet temp files and created a new user.

I have posted my requested at a couple of newsgroups, and with Microsoft
customer help, so hope someone will help me get back to my totally electronic
home accounting before I miss paying something important!
Thanks,

"Cindy Winegarden" wrote:

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Hi Steve,

One question of yours that Dick didn't cover is when does the Beta end.
Anyone involved in the Beta is under a non-disclosure agreement and couldn't
answer that question. Anyone who isn't a Microsoft Money team member or a
Beta tester wouldn't know the answer. Finally, when a Beta ends the product
bits are released to manufacturing (RTMed) and then there is a 6-8 week
period before the product actually hits store shelves.

"Us guys" (MVPs) are not employees of Microsoft and therefore do not control
product decisions. While you may have valid points about product weaknesses
(I'm no Money expert), your holding MVPs accountable for those weaknesses is
misdirected.

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy_winegarden[at]msn.com www.cindywinegarden.com


"Steve Wormuth" <wormuth[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm clueless why you address this to the MVPs like they get a vote or
something.

When will the beta period expire? Probably about the time M06 comes out.

Specific remaining comments against relevant snippets.

"Steve Wormuth" <wormuth[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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As you note, this is far from a new trend.

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This is also not a new thing in M05. Archiving has ALWAYS worked this way.
There are many reasons not to archive and you have cited several of them.
Why archive in the first place?

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What does the 20MB vs. floppy question have to do with anything? The backup
to floppy is designed for floppy. Some of us even use it. (Ten floppies once
a week here.) Note that it will also back up to other removable devices that
support standard (NTFS/FAT) file systems. (At least you can in M04. Can't
say for M05. Its backup to floppy has some other incredibly annoying issues
like it won't overwrite an old backup by itself, no how, no way.) Certainly
you don't want them to add a CD burning engine to Money when they struggle
so with finanacial management functionality as it is?

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What question? Who said it's not easy with Money? Have you actually tried
logging into MSN Money with a passport once your data was put up there with
the same Passport? There is no rocket science there. I'd never done it and
had no clue what gave. Didn't read Help-squat. I did the sync with the web
(from M05 with the sample data file), browsed to http://moneycentral.msn.com
in IE, saw a "My Money" tab link, clicked on it, saw "Sign in now to see
your data" and did so. No big deal. I suspect that if I'd navigated to
http://moneycentral.msn.com in a session already authenticated by the same
Passport it would have been even easier.

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Some of the patches--M02 scheduled transactions and M05 in general have been
significant changes, though not without problems and not always in good
directions. Besides, if it really were SP5, there would have been more bugs
fixed quicker/by now.

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What's to say? As you note, these are not new issues.

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Us guys? Who are you meaning? The "Hey MVPs"???

What's your data migration strategy for when you switch back to Quicken?

Greetings,

1. Why is it so damn sloooooow? I can click to accept a downloaded
transaction and it takes 1-2 minutes to "think" on my P4 system.
Happens on any PC I install it on. It gets slower with every
version...

2. What are these MoneyCoreFiles in the installation folder? I
assume they are downloaded patches, but the folders are the same size
as the original program. Each update is occupying 100 MB of space
without the average users knowledge. Can I delete them?

3. Archiving old stuff is painful. Due to it's slowness... I
removed about six months worth of old transactions for the first time
yesterday, and it took 1 hour and 15 minutes. PC's do tens of
thousands of calculations per second, but adding and subtracting to
Money takes hours? Not to mention the archive only copies your
original file as the archive... It does remove them from your current
file, but I could have copied the original myself. Why not actually
move old transactions *only* to a new archive file?

4. Still can't select an alternate backup location to replace the
dumb 3.5" floppy option. When was last time 20 MB fit on a freaking
floppy?

5. Told the software to hide it's dialog box when downloading updates
over and over. The option does nothing, it comes back next time...

6. The sounds are messed up again... Never seems to install the
sounds under all user profiles, like the "Designed for XP" logo
requires...

7. Help is useless and outdated... Help tells me to use "money web
express" to enter a transaction on the web when away from home. Show
me a link...

8. By the way... Nobody ever answered my question about how to enter
a transaction in my cash account when on the road. Easily done with
Quicken...

9. Etc... Etc...


Money 2005 is nothing more than Money 2000 SP-5. Not a new version,
just the same old, with patches... If I were just being purposefully
inflammatory I wouldn't expect anyone to address these issues, but
these are legitimate points which we have all complained about for
*years* in this group. Even though these are valid points, I don't
suspect any takers on this post...

I switched from Quicken many years ago, but I will go back next
version. You guys just don't listen...

Steve


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