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Old 12-07-2004, 01:38 PM
Jaap
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Default Re: what is so hard about giving people what they want?

Thanks for the idea. I also downloaded the program and looked at it. Looks
promising, is quick, but has some flaws. I am interested in your evaluation
outcome. We may use this Newsgroups as it's their own fault that we are
looking for an alternative.
I was quite happy last year starting to use Money, but was disappointed at
this years signals on the Newsgroups, so I decided not to upgrade, but it's
very hard to find a suitable alternative.
Maybe there are more ideas out there (except Quicken, who also does not get
so many positive reports)


"das" <das[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8842C2A3-D052-4B67-A8DB-7C19A7460141[at]microsoft.com...
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> I too wonder who Microsoft is targeting as a user base. My biggest gripe is
> with the mismanagement of screen real-estate. but that is a different
> discussion.
> Have you seen AceMoney. I just started looking at it as an alternative
> since
> in the last two releases, Microsoft is drifting away my expectations for
> finance software.
> My initial observations is that it has a simple plain UI compared to the
> fancy UI features that Money seems to be spending money on. But it does
> have
> much of the functionality that I expect of finance software (Account
> Register/QIF downloads/Budget/Portfolio/Bill Schedule) . However, I will
> have
> to use it for a while before I decide to switch.
> "pony boy" wrote:
> > Who exactly does Microsoft think it's biggest audience is with MS Money?
> > If
> > it is the casual user with some desire for light online banking - then
> > the
> > software fails because of it's over-complexity. If it is the borderline
> > money management geek like myself who wants detailed accouting of their
> > personal accounts and the ability to manage them all online, then it
> > fails
> > because all those over-complex features just don't work worth a damn.
> > Riddle me this - has anybody ever actually used the various portfolio
> > analysis tools and gotten what they consider to be useful data/results?
> > > And the ads - my God, the ads! Does MS really think it's making money

> > selling all these links considering how badly it turns off customers?
> > > The only thing MS has going for it with this crap software is that there

> > is
> > only one competitor and it isn't any better.
> > > It is mind-boggling how complicated they have made this whole product.

> > They
> > should consider starting from scratch.
> > > >


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Old 12-05-2004, 12:13 AM
das
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Default RE: what is so hard about giving people what they want?

I too wonder who Microsoft is targeting as a user base. My biggest gripe is
with the mismanagement of screen real-estate. but that is a different
discussion.

Have you seen AceMoney. I just started looking at it as an alternative since
in the last two releases, Microsoft is drifting away my expectations for
finance software.

My initial observations is that it has a simple plain UI compared to the
fancy UI features that Money seems to be spending money on. But it does have
much of the functionality that I expect of finance software (Account
Register/QIF downloads/Budget/Portfolio/Bill Schedule) . However, I will have
to use it for a while before I decide to switch.


"pony boy" wrote:

- quote -

> Who exactly does Microsoft think it's biggest audience is with MS Money? If
> it is the casual user with some desire for light online banking - then the
> software fails because of it's over-complexity. If it is the borderline
> money management geek like myself who wants detailed accouting of their
> personal accounts and the ability to manage them all online, then it fails
> because all those over-complex features just don't work worth a damn.
> Riddle me this - has anybody ever actually used the various portfolio
> analysis tools and gotten what they consider to be useful data/results?
> And the ads - my God, the ads! Does MS really think it's making money
> selling all these links considering how badly it turns off customers?
> The only thing MS has going for it with this crap software is that there is
> only one competitor and it isn't any better.
> It is mind-boggling how complicated they have made this whole product. They
> should consider starting from scratch.

 
Old 12-04-2004, 03:35 AM
Dick Watson
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Default Re: what is so hard about giving people what they want?

Some of us would argue, in terms of extensibility and capability, that they
haven't made it nearly complex enough. That's a measure of their problem.
Lots of people can't deal with it despite the continued dumbing-down, others
want a serious tool.

"pony boy" <silver2000svt[at]aol.com> wrote in message
news:A09sd.26694$Mu3.1647137[at]twister.southeast.rr.com...
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> It is mind-boggling how complicated they have made this whole product.
> They should consider starting from scratch.



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Old 12-04-2004, 02:10 AM
pony boy
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Default what is so hard about giving people what they want?

Who exactly does Microsoft think it's biggest audience is with MS Money? If
it is the casual user with some desire for light online banking - then the
software fails because of it's over-complexity. If it is the borderline
money management geek like myself who wants detailed accouting of their
personal accounts and the ability to manage them all online, then it fails
because all those over-complex features just don't work worth a damn.
Riddle me this - has anybody ever actually used the various portfolio
analysis tools and gotten what they consider to be useful data/results?

And the ads - my God, the ads! Does MS really think it's making money
selling all these links considering how badly it turns off customers?

The only thing MS has going for it with this crap software is that there is
only one competitor and it isn't any better.

It is mind-boggling how complicated they have made this whole product. They
should consider starting from scratch.



 

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