"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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Ya I have noticed that you have a hard time interpreting like statements and
offering meaningful suggestions. I have read all of your replies in this NG
over the past 3 months and I'm guessing that you didn't earn your MVP by
offering help in the Money NG.

Even though I am MCT, MCSE, MCSA.........I don't have all the answers all
the time.

Anyway congrats on the MVP

D

In microsoft.public.money, Joe Clark wrote:

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Did you try Mark's suggestion?


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My definition of "same" differs from others, I have noticed.

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For that I would look at correcting the Opening Balances of the
problem accounts.

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That sounds severe.

Thanks everyone for your responses and suggestions. I have tried every
suggestion here save for the uninstallation of the Investment toolbox as I
have no such app installed. Perhaps that comes only with the Premium edition
and I have only the Deluxe.

There are other people in these newsgroups that are reporting the very same
problem. One reported an after-synch balance in the trillions. I believe he
too upgraded directly from 2002 to 2005 and therein may be the issue. I am
convinced there is an upgrading issue from 2002 to 2005 involving MSN
Moneycentral. The gentleman who started this thread, that I seem to have
unintentionally hijacked, reports this (I think) as well.

I had high hopes in the suggestion of using a new passport...a simple
solution that seemes as if it would work. I took my 2005 file with the
passport disabled, and enabled it with a new passport. MSN should have
absolutely no connection to my original accounts at that point, but as soon
as it synched...the now familiar 77k balanced reappeared.

I didn't take the hours it would to double check this, but all the
duplications seem to be in 2002 and 2003 in the registeres, both checking and
saving. I am going to try to use Money2002 to archive those years, thereby
removing them from the registers and try again.

Thanks again,

-Joe

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Joe Clark wrote:

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PS!!!!

Do NOT use the same Passport on your Money 2002 and your Money 2005
files!

In case you haven't already tried this, you can also try to disable sync
(making sure to select the choice to delete the data from the server), then
reconvert your Money 2002 file and then let it resync. It might be that the
duplicated data was on the MSN Money servers.

-Mark

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Joe Clark wrote:

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Most credit card companies do direct access, and don't need
Passport. Changing the credit card is a lot easier than changing the
banks, tho.

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Perhaps you have tried this one. Perhaps not. I am not sure how this
will play with the Yodlee, but if you have tried those other things,
this one seems worth a try. I don't know if it will solve that or
not. Please let us know if you try it.

In Add-Remove Programs, remove MSN Money Investment Toolbox. Then
use your moneycentral portfolio to delete each account with the
non-deluxe portfolio. Then re-convert a copy of your Money 2002
file. If when you do your updating initially you find accounts
duplicated, do the appropriate Merge right away.

Incidentally, Money 2005 also made a backup copy of your Money 2002
file as *.m10.

Thank you Cal, that was a fast response.

I actually have removed my passport and the MSN synch. I would love to not
use the synch at all. Unfortunately, Money will not allow me to work online
with either of my banks or one of my credit card companies without both the
Passport and moneycentral functions also enabled. Apparently it has
something to do with that Yodlee service.

So to be more accurate the program isn't completely useless as is. It still
does work as an electronic checkbook with great reporting features. But then
again so was Money 2002. The main reason I upgraded to Money2005 was so I
could finally work directly out of Money with my bank, mortgage, and CC
companies. I can't do that until the MSN/Money function is fixed.

Thank you though for sending the workaround, I should have mentioned that I
had done that already.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Joe Clark <Joe
Clark[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

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Do you want to do Moneycentral sync?

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If you don't want to do Moneycentral sync, you could either remove
the Passport, delete the accounts on Moneycentral before syncing, or
put a different Passport onto your file before syncing.

I am commenting in case you wanted to try. If you were just
lamenting, sorry to have bothered you.

Yes, I too have this version 14.0.120.1105. Its the only version I ever had
since I updated the program before attempting to upgrade my Money2002 file
with it.

Everything works fine until the moment I do anything that causes the MSN
Moneycentral synch to happen. Once that happens, hundreds of transactions in
my checking and savings get duplicated as far back as 2003 and my balance one
once account goes from approx 1,500.00 to over 77,000.00. Obviously this is
a showstopper and I thank heaven I made a backup of the 2002 file before
trusting it to Money2005.

This program is useless until this particular bug gets fixed. But the first
step is for MS to acknowledge it still exists and that the November "fix" had
no effect on it.

"Joe Graeber" wrote:

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"Bob Peel, MVP" <Bob_Peel[at]NO_SPAMkiandra.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<#a#KhXI2EHA.2804[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl> ...

I too am running with the November update, 14.0.120.1105 and I have
been having these issues as recently as 3 days ago when I spent almost
2 hours on the phone with Microsoft Money Support. In fact, that
reminds me, they were supposed to call me back within 24 hours -- 3
days ago. Guess I should ask for an update to my case(s).

I was hoping the update would 'fix me', but no go ... same problems,
duplicate categories, extra checking account that can't be merged
(which destroys all my upcoming bills since they're linking to the
correct pre-existing checking account which is no longer enabled for
epay. The new one is enabled for epay, but only has the MSN Billpay
transactions in it, and cannot be merged. Let's not forget that
wonderful category issue where you end up with Category and
Category-#1 for every category in your money file just about.

I've tried all sorts of things, putting them both in the same
institution, verifying the account numbers and addresses, etc.
Apparently, the merge feature is looking for some special criteria
we're simply not able to change (or at least that I haven't changed
yet). I hope it's fixed soon ... this has thrown all my reporting and
budgets completely out of whack.

Is there an ETA for a new patch? : )

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What version no does Help > About give?

Post update it should be 14.0.120.1105. If you have that you have the latest
although I understand there may be further updates in due course.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.


"Matthew Coble" <MatthewCoble[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Peel:

Thanks for your prompt response....

What was the date of this online update? I was struggling with Money 2005 as
recently as a week ago. Are you referring to the mid-November update? (If so,
that didn't do it for me.) Or rather a more recent one?

MC


"Bob Peel, MVP" wrote:

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There has been an online update released that has fixed many of the problems
for most people.

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Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny.
For wishes or suggestions see
http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.


"Matthew Coble" <Matthew Coble[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Microsofties:

So I spent several weeks and several email exchanges with Microsoft Support
trying to sort out the numerous issues I've been having with Money 2005:

1) Money crashed often when trying to run my Money 2002 file. (Seemingly
fixed with recent update.)

2) Money inserted duplicate entries into most of my day-to-day accounts
going back to May 2003. Thousands of them.

3) Money randomly created duplicate categories.

4) Items 2 and 3 are seemingly due to Yodlee or the MSN website
synchronization or something like that. I want to use the MSN syncing so my
wife can easily tune into our finances.

5) Money did not reliably perform it's "Internet Updates" with my various
financial institutions, notably E*Trade and NetBank, both of which have
worked fine for years. Sometimes they worked. Usually they didn't. And
there's that pesky duplicates issue.

Thankfully, I had backed up my Money files, so I've personally rolled back
to a prior version of Microsoft Money. I STRONGLY recommend that long-time
users of Money do the same until the various show-stopper issues are resolved.

Which brings me to my question....

So, Microsofties, any update on when the public Money 2005 beta test will be
wrapped up? I'd sure like to use the spiffy new version, but I must insist on
waiting until it actually works.

So when's it gonna work?

Matthew Coble
Atlanta, GA