In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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Keep an extra backup at each stage until things are right.

Sorry, I was on the phone with MS support. I think I need to step back and
look at what they did. They had me go into {portfolio Mgr}{Work with
Investments} and {Delete Investment} to remove the MF that was supposed to
be a stock etc.

In the end they told me someone would call me back in 72 hours. I don't
think they helped much, but I lost my internet connection last night so I
will re-group and start a new Later thread this morning.

Thanks for all your help, I think I'm much closer, but still not there yet!!


"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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The purpose of this procedure is disassociate a security from the
download process. The problem this cures is that Money associates
downloaded fund by CUSIP. Renaming and/or changing the symbol is
not sufficient to appear as a different security.

Create dis_mf.ofx by cutting and pasting the portions between the
Begin and End lines (below) into a file named dis_mf.ofx.

I suggest making an extra copy of your Money file as a precaution.

File-> Import dis_mf.ofx

Select the appropriate Account from the list.

Select the institution as the actual institution that holds the
account.

You should get the "You have n statements to read" screen. The
account you just imported into should show the name account name
followed by (1). Click that name.

You should get the pop-up that says "Money found the following
investment in your brokerage statement:".

Select "This investment is already in my investment portfolio with
a different name. I use the following investment in my investment
portfolio to track this investment:". From the drop-down list,
choose the mutual fund you are trying to get rid of. Click Next.
When you get the "Are you sure xxxxx is the same investment as
yyyy?", click Yes.

If you get the screen that says "Do you want to change the ticker
symbol for xxxx in Money from yyyy to zzzz to match the statement,
click Yes.

Get the screen that says "The positions reported on nn/nn/nn
statement don't match those in you Money account. Do you want to
update your account to match the statement?". I would select No,
but it is up to you. Click Finish.

Now download from your broker for real.

Feel free to suggest improvements to this procedure.




========================Begin:dis_mf.ofx========== ==============
OFXHEADER:100
DATA:OFXSGML
OLDFILEUID:NONE
NEWFILEUID:NONE
CHARSET:1252
VERSION:102
COMPRESSION:NONE
ENCODING:USASCII
SECURITY:NONE

<OFX<SIGNONMSGSRSV1

<SONRS<STATUS<CODE> 0
<SEVERITY> INFO
<MESSAGE> SUCCESS
</STATUS<DTSERVER> 20040302
<LANGUAGE> ENG
<DTPROFUP> 20030403
<DTACCTUP> 20040201
</SONRS> </SIGNONMSGSRSV1<INVSTMTMSGSRSV1

<INVSTMTTRNRS<TRNUID> Zzzz1
<STATUS<CODE> 0
<SEVERITY> INFO
<MESSAGE> Success so far with MF displacement
</STATUS
<INVSTMTRS<DTASOF> 20040302
<CURDEF> USD
<INVACCTFROM<BROKERID> YourBrokerOrZzzz2
<ACCTID> YourAccountOrZzzz3
</INVACCTFROM<INVPOSLIST
<POSMF<INVPOS<SECID<UNIQUEID> Zzzz4
<UNIQUEIDTYPE> CUSIP
</SECID<HELDINACCT> CASH
<POSTYPE> LONG
<UNITS> 0.01
<UNITPRICE> 01.00
<MKTVAL> 0.010
<DTPRICEASOF> 20040302
</INVPOS</POSMF</INVPOSLIST
</INVSTMTRS</INVSTMTTRNRS</INVSTMTMSGSRSV1

<SECLISTMSGSRSV1<SECLIST
<MFINFO<SECINFO<SECID<UNIQUEID> Zzzz4
<UNIQUEIDTYPE> CUSIP
</SECID<SECNAME> Zzzz5
<TICKER> Zzzz6
</SECINFO</MFINFO
</SECLIST</SECLISTMSGSRSV1</OFX
=========================END:dis_mf.ofx=========== =============

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In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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yes. The point is to say that this oddball stock is the same as the
stock that Fidelity has been matching up with in error. The plan is,
then, that when you later download from Fidelity, it will not
pre-assume that the thing you have 1100 shares of is that stock.
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That is a problem then. You want to say that the new fake oddball
stock is the one you want to do away with. If that is not offered as
a choice, I don't know what that could indicate. I think you are
saying that Money thinks TPBJ is a stock rather than a fund. Is that
the way it is? If not, then that would change the solution.

So right now, Money thinks TPBJ is a ______________

and Money thinks FDGRX is a _________________

I must be thick. When running the code you provided am I supposed to be
selecting the (TPBJ) in the drop down list where you say

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If so it never appears as a selection! Or should I select the the FDGRX
fidelity Growth? Currently called a stock incorrectly.



"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:

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Oops... that should be only the name comes over in the QIF file. The
symbol does not. You add that in later.

In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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What may have happened in Quicken is that you had the same
investment as two different investments.

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If you do QIF export and import, only the symbol of investments
comes over. QIF import would be one way to get things going, but I
would not give up on the other yet.

If you do decide to try QIF, there are some tips.

But first, I had made some assumptions in the description I gave you
before. Were those accurate?

Is your problem that there is a still a stock with name FDGRX? If
so, rename it to zzzz3 and blank its symbol.

Is there a fund defined that should have symbol FDGRX? Make its
symbol be FDGRX and make its name be Fidelity Growth.

Then go thru all transaction of zzzz3 and change them to
transactions of Fidelity Growth.


But, yes. you could do the export+Import. The slightly tricky point
will be to make transactions under both names refer to the same
fund. So ready for those QIF tips, or do you want to try some more
with the existing file?



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I think I am in over my head with this money file. I'm not sure if I
screwed it up or if it was that way in Quicken, but I must take the blame to
stay married.

I want to start fresh with this investment account from today. Can I export
all accounts, investment, checking etc. Then create a new file and import
only accounts that I know are good. Then if I set up a new investment
account for fidelity and download from Broker, will this incorrect mapping
disappear?




"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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One thing that I find useful for accepting transactions is Alt+P. I
think it will auto-repeat if you hold it down.

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OK. Here is what I think may be the solution, if I understand
correctly.

FDRDX is what you call a fund holding, and currently in the details
it does not show a symbol.

TPBJ is defined as a stock, it is an old artifact, and it has symbol
FDRDX.

If you are doing direct download from Fidelity using OFX type
access, there is an solution that will seem strange. Keep a copy of
your file in case you don't like the result.

First, let's get the ID (CUSIP) and symbol for the real FDRDX to
not be associated with TPBJ.

The purpose of this is disassociate a security from the download
process. The problem this cures is that Money associates OFX
downloaded stock by CUSIP. Renaming and/or changing the symbol is
not sufficient to appear as a different security.

Create dis_sk.ofx by cutting and pasting the portions between the
Begin and End lines (below) into a file named dis_sk.ofx.

I suggest making an extra copy of your Money file as a precaution.

File-> Import dis_sk.ofx into Money

Select the appropriate Account from the list.

Select the institution as the actual institution that holds the
account (Fidelity I think).

You should get the "You have n statements to read" screen. The
account you just imported into should show the name account name
followed by (1). Click that name.

You should get the pop-up that says "Money found the following
investment in your brokerage statement:".

Select "This investment is already in my investment portfolio with
a different name. I use the following investment in my investment
portfolio to track this investment:". From the drop-down list,
choose the stock you are trying to get rid of. Click Next. When
you get the "Are you sure xxxxx is the same investment as yyyy?",
click Yes.

If you get the screen that says "Do you want to change the ticker
symbol for xxxx in Money from FDRDX to zzz2 to match the statement,
click Yes.

Get the screen that says "The positions reported on nn/nn/nn
statement don't match those in you Money account. Do you want to
update your account to match the statement?". I would select No,
but it is up to you. Click Finish.

Now download from your broker for real. When the actual position
comes in, Money should ask if that exists in your file under another
name. Say that it matches the actual fund you want it to match. Also
change the symbol of FDRDX to FDRDX.

Feel free to suggest improvements to this procedure.


========================Begin:dis_sk.ofx========== ==============
OFXHEADER:100
DATA:OFXSGML
OLDFILEUID:NONE
NEWFILEUID:NONE
CHARSET:1252
VERSION:102
COMPRESSION:NONE
ENCODING:USASCII
SECURITY:NONE

<OFX<SIGNONMSGSRSV1

<SONRS<STATUS<CODE> 0
<SEVERITY> INFO
<MESSAGE> SUCCESS
</STATUS<DTSERVER> 20040302
<LANGUAGE> ENG
<DTPROFUP> 20030403
<DTACCTUP> 20040201
</SONRS> </SIGNONMSGSRSV1<INVSTMTMSGSRSV1

<INVSTMTTRNRS<TRNUID> ZzzzA1
<STATUS<CODE> 0
<SEVERITY> INFO
<MESSAGE> Success so far with stock modification of symbol and CUSIP
</STATUS
<INVSTMTRS<DTASOF> 20040221
<CURDEF> USD
<INVACCTFROM<BROKERID> YourBrokerOrZzzzA2
<ACCTID> YourAccountOrZzzzA3
</INVACCTFROM

<INVTRANLIST<DTSTART> 20040904000000.000[-5:EST]
<DTEND> 20041102194040.000[-5:EST]
<INCOME<INVTRAN<FITID> 2004093000000000000-182271229
<DTTRADE> 20040930120000.000[-5:EST]
</INVTRAN<SECID<UNIQUEID> 377zzz105
<UNIQUEIDTYPE> CUSIP
</SECID<INCOMETYPE> DIV
<TOTAL> 18.30
<SUBACCTSEC> CASH
<SUBACCTFUND> CASH
</INCOME

</INVTRANLIST
<INVPOSLIST
<POSSTOCK<INVPOS<SECID<UNIQUEID> 0zzz12345
<UNIQUEIDTYPE> CUSIP
</SECID<HELDINACCT> CASH
<POSTYPE> LONG
<UNITS> 50.0000
<UNITPRICE> 42.840
<MKTVAL> 2142.000
<DTPRICEASOF> 20041102000000.000[-5:EST]
</INVPOS</POSSTOCK
</INVPOSLIST
</INVSTMTRS</INVSTMTTRNRS</INVSTMTMSGSRSV1

<SECLISTMSGSRSV1<SECLIST
<STOCKINFO<SECINFO<SECID<UNIQUEID> 0zzz12345
<UNIQUEIDTYPE> CUSIP
</SECID<SECNAME> zzzz FAKE STOCK zzzz
<TICKER> zzz2
</SECINFO</STOCKINFO
</SECLIST</SECLISTMSGSRSV1</OFX
======================END:dis_sk.ofx ========================

This is very complicated. My wife was doing these accounts in Quicken for
years, I moved them to Money 2004 a trial copy, then I purchased Money 2005
and am now in charge of the accounts. I believe this is my fault as the
first time I looked at the statement it had something on the order of 387
transactions to read. I assume it has been downloading in Quicken for a
while and nobody was looking at it.

Basically I had to hit OK 387 times to accept the transactions, I tried to
read every one, but I admit I hit enter too quickly a few times, OK more
than a few times!!

I have restored a backup and it has the 387 transactions to read, so no luck
there

Currently FDGRX is listed as a Stock in Money. I don't know if that
happened in the Quicken conversion or if my wife entered it that way.

I believe that TPBJ was entered in Quicken, and it too has the Initials
FDGRX So I am at a loss.

I was very willing to start from today with this account, so I backed it up
then deleted it and re-created it, but FDGRX still listed incorrectly as a
stock., and when I download transactions from Fidelity it try to add 1100
TPBJ Which is NOT coming from Fidelity, I checked on the website it has no
such fund, stock etc. It has to be getting that from Money!!

I hope this helps!!
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In microsoft.public.money, SMERTZ wrote:

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If I understand this correctly, you have transactions for a security
called "FDGRX" with symbol FDGRX. That would be the FIDELITY GROWTH
mutual fund (which is not a Money Market fund) Is there no
indication for a holding of that in your Investment Holdings
position data when you click "Transactions to read" on your account
list after update?

There is a complex process. So lets try to understand the situation
better before getting into a solution. Have you been downloading
long, and, if not, do you have a recent backup that pre-dates your
downloading?

Before changing things, I wonder if you happen to have $1100 of cash
or swept money market funds. I find no reference to TPBJ with
Fidelity, so I wonder where that is coming from.

I am now getting automatic updates from my Investment account, when I click
on the downloaded information "Positions" Money is trying to add 1100 shares
of something called "Money Fund (TPBJ)" to my investment account. Funny
thing is I have exactually 1100 shares of FDGRX. So I am thinking somehow
this FDGRX got mapped to this "Money Fund (TPBJ)"

How can I change this mapping in Money so it stops trying to add 1100 shares
of something I don't have? Can I also delete this investment called "Money
Fund (TPBJ)" from some list in Money? I also think FDGRX is mis-classified
as a stock instead of a market fund, how do I change this?

Thanks

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