thanks again for your response. My apology to make you confused. I could
use the database under money 2004, however, for one of the account I get
"operation cannot be performed" error. We are unable to get the database to
work under moneyh 2005.

On top of that recovery tool, we have also tried "ultra money" which has a
repair tool of itself. Through the analysis tool it shows that we have about
40 transactions that have illegal currencies, however, when we try to fix it,
the repair tool crashes, all we could do is to delete these transactions.
however, after fixing this problem, the same "cannot locate file" error
message appear everytime we try to upgrade the database into 2005.

After the long and stressful trials, we have decided to keep going along
with money 2004 until microsoft come up with a solution for the corrupted
file. We have evaluated the possibility of exporting and importing QIF
files, however, it is just too much for us. the account structure is really
complex and they are all inter-related to each other. The fact that loan
accounts cannot be moved is the actual reason we finally decided not to go
onto that approach. Unless there is another way of getting around it...

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Ronald wrote:

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Now I am more confused than normal. You had said the error you were
getting was "Money cannot locate filename or cannot open it,
possibly because it is a read-only file, you do not have permission
to change it, or your disk drive is write-protected. If you have
chosen the correct file and it cannot be accessed, you will need to
click OK and then Restore your most recent backup file." That error
would be associated with not being able to open the file.

Now you have the error "the operation cannot be performed". That
would be associated with having the file opened but failing when
trying to do a particular thing.

So if you do have the file open, yes, QIF export/import can be a
useful thing. You will certainly have a clean file afterwards. If
you do intend to do the QIF thing, there are some considerations. On
the other hand, there are things that can sometimes get rid of that
depending on what triggers the error.

I don't know anything about the application that you reference in
your later posting.

Moreover, I have downloaded the "money recovery" file from
www.officerecovery.com and tried to recovery the ms money database. However,
after stage 1 and stage 2 I got an error message saying "Error: MS Money
Template File". I am just wondering what kind of template file it is and if
this is the cause of the problem, is there anyway to solve it? Thanks.


"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Hi Cal,

I have tried again to copy the file to CD and back and even tried to do
it onto a non-ntfs (ie fat32) system partition, it still gives me the same
error. Browsing through this discussion board it seems that some of the
other people are having the same problem as well. Then I found a link to one
of the unofficial faq you and others from MVP put up, in there it says that I
might need to do the export and importing business, I am just wondering if it
is going to be my last resort? Is there any other ways that I can actually
repair a corrupted file? After reading that faq I do realise that the
database is corrupted. (it gave me the error message of "the operation
cannot be performed".


Thanks so much.

Regards,
Ronald

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Ronald wrote:

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I remember people getting that error as they were moving over to XP.
I produced it once by moving a file from one user to another. I
worked with it a while by copying the file to a FAT volume (that has
no ownership), to a CD and whatever. The symptom disappeared and I
was not able to reproduce it later.

I am not saying this was the same cause that you have.

Hi Cal,

Thanks again for your reply and the replies from MVP, much appreciated.
However, I guess this issue is with Microsoft Money itself, as Microsoft has
updated their knowledge base on this error message. Since we were using MS
Money 2004 Premium, it was not affected as stated in the knowledge base
article. However, for the 2005 versions, all editions (including premium)
are affected. that is why when we were upgrading from 2003 to 2004, we had no
problems, but when we try to upgrade from 2004 to 2005, there is this error
message. Here is the link to the updated error acknowledgement from the
knowledge base:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;320193 .

Again thanks for your time for all these days trying to sove the
problem for us.

Kind regards,
Dingwei Xin

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Ronald wrote:

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I don't understand the permissions system well. But if you move the
..mny file to the Shared Documents folder, does that change things?

If you made Everyone the owner, I wonder how that would work. It
sounds as if you are trying to access the file as more than one
user, or as a single user but trying to get away from that error.

Hi Cal,

I have again tried to change the access for everyone using the cacls
command, every time we change the access rights for everyone to full, and run
money, money automaticaly changes it back to C (change) it changes bullitin
users to R (readonly). Is there any way to get around it?

thanks.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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Uhmmm, I did get an error message when using salv.exe, saying the online
table error, however, it says that the problem has been fixed, yet still the
2005 money program does not recognise it. I also tried to use the cacls
command, and found I do have full access rights. thanks for the help... I
guess i should give up at this stage... seems to be all correct and the
program just does not load the file

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Ronald wrote:

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And yet salv.exe is not giving you errors, I infer.

And you are opening the modified *.mny file, with a different name,
that salv.exe produced? One way to open a particular file is to open
Money by double-clicking the Money file in Windows Explorer.

If in a command window you do
cacls "Ronald money.mny"
including the quotes, is one of the lines that follows is

aa\bb:F

where aa represents your computer name and bb is your user name, and
"Ronald money.mny" represents your Money file? The F is a real F
that stands for Full access rights.

Thansk for much for your help, however, after tried using the 2005 version of
salv.exe, it is still not working... giving me the same error message.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Ronald wrote:

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Run "\Program Files\Microsoft Money 2005\MNYCoreFiles\salv.exe"
to try to make a repaired version. Try level 2, perhaps followed by
a level 1.

Thanks a lot for your reply. I have checked the settings and yes the TEMP
variable is set. I have also tried to create a fresh copy of 2004 file, and
the 2005 version did upgrade the fresh copy, so I suspect there is something
corrupted with my database. Is there anyway to correct the corruption?
Thanks.

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" wrote:

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An alternative would be to find the 2004 file and try to double-click it,
this would ensure Money is finding the correct one (i suspect it is though).
Also, try creating a copy of the 2004 file (check the read only attribute
isn't set) and upgrade that one.

On some older versions, there were problems with conversion if there was no
TEMP variable set (found in control panel-> system-> advanced-> environment
variables) and/or using a limited user account, so have a look to see
whether these are not helping you.

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

Check http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny
for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or
suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback especially
if it's a UK specific wish.

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Ronald" <Ronald[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01E9F0BF-3C37-45E0-8CA3-5BAB44F9D48E[at]microsoft.com...
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Hi, thanks for the reply, here is the link for the actual article
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;320193 and the error
is exactly what is shown in that article.

regards,
ronald

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" wrote:

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Can you point to the articles you have tried and the exact errors you are
getting?

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

Check http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny
for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or
suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback especially
if it's a UK specific wish.

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Ronald" <Ronald[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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We have encountered some problem while migrating from 2004 to 2005, when
upgrading the database, it gives us an error message about read-only files.
We have searched the knowledge base and found that microsoft is aware of this
problem and it is caused by the corruption within the database. We followed
the instruction on the microsoft website, however, when using the repair
facility within the money program, the corruption is said to be fixed, but in
2005 it still does not upgrade and still have the readonly error message.
Then we tried to use the tool on the Money disk (which is supposed to be more
powerful), however, this tool clearly says that we are having an uncorrupted
database. Could anyone give us a solution on this. Much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.