I actually archived my file in 2004 before I moved it over to 2005. I
removed everything prior to 2004. Still, the payees and categories were
there, and in many cases they were duplicated several times over. Are you
saying I need to archive again now, after deleting all the duplicate payees?

"Michael Gordon, MVP" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message
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Ronald Pierce <ron[at]pierceplace.net> wrote:
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Thanks for this. I am running Money 2002 and just added my money file to the
exclusions list in NAV 2004 - it appears to have made Money run faster.


--
~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/

Unfortunately payees (and securities) aren't really deleted when you delete
them; they lurk in the file and the only way I know how to remove them
permanently is through archive. This isn't new with 05, been there for a
while.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:02:19 -0700, "John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.netwrote:

I run Money 2004 - but one thing I did to speed things up was to turn
off antivirus for the Money datafile. Most antivirus have a way to
selectively exclude files or extensions from a real-time scan on open
and save. It certainly wasn't a fix for slowness, but it helped.

- Ron

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John--

Are you sure you're too far along to go back to 2004?

If you're not exaggerating about taking 2 hours to enter bills each time, it
seems to me that it would be more efficient to revert to 2004 and enter data
up through now!

dordale


"John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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Your probably right - wasn't trying to be snide - just thought there might
be a chance that his problem lies elsewhere

Jim

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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In microsoft.public.money, Jim Johnson wrote:

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I don't think your conclusion is justified.

In microsoft.public.money, John Kowalke wrote:

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I wanted to suggest an experiment: telling your software firewall to
stop all traffic. Another would be
Start-> Settings-> NetworkConnections-> yourConnection-> Disable.

I don't propose to have a theory as to what is happening, but I am
curious if there will be a noticeable effect.

I think you've got problems other than money. I have a 2.8 P4 machine - xp
with sp2 and it works fine. No problems that you are experiencing.

Jim

"John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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Well, I have done quick file repairs, standard file repairs, deleted
duplicate payees and categories, and disabled MSN integration. Yet, when I
attempt to record a scheduled transaction from the Bills and Deposits
screen, it takes (and I am not exaggerating) 1-2 minutes for the dialog box
to disappear and the program to return access to the mouse. Mind you, I am
running Windows XP on P4-2.8 GHz with 1 GB of RAM here, no slouch machine.

I can't imagine what this program is doing that takes THAT long, unless the
data file is just terrible fragmented or something. Sounds like MS needs to
move this to the Jet or MSDE engines or something to increase performance.

Sadly, I am too far in to go back to 2004 now. I can only hope for a patch
and schedule about 2 hours to enter my bills each week.

John

"Michael Gordon, MVP" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message
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I asked for a different reason, John -- I've seen this payee issue before
(the new ones take their name from the memo of the transaction) and
suspected that enabling roaming is what caused this behavior. That's why I
asked; your answer confirms my suspicion.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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I do have that enabled. I haven't tried disabling it yet to see if it makes
a difference.

I am finally done deleting all the duplicate payees - I then did a Quick
File Repair. It seems to have sped things up a little, but it still takes a
long time when I click on the New or Edit buttons on the transaction forms.
Subsequent clicks are instantaneous, though, so it only happens the first
time I sign in.

It also takes what I would consider an unusually long time to edit a
scheduled bill or deposit.

John

"Michael Gordon, MVP" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message
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Hi Jim
I mean passport-enabled and syncing with MSN. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"Jim Johnson" <dogman56[at]msn.com> wrote in message
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Hi Michael,

I've seen you mention roaming in several post - please explain - are you
referring to setting up for automatic online updates? ) - please give
details if you don't mind.

Thanks,

Jim

"Michael Gordon, MVP" <gordonm[at]denison.edu> wrote in message
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A question, John - do you have your 2005 data enabled for roaming?
Thanks,

--
Michael Gordon
MVP


"John Kowalke" <kowalke[at]cox.net> wrote in message
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I am also experiencing a drastic slowdown in 2005 over 2004. I went into
Payees and noticed that I probably have 20,000 payees in there - multiple
payees from downloaded transactions over the years. For example, some of
the payees appear as "CHECK 1219" (this might appear 6-7 times), "CHECK1220"
(6-7 times), etc.

Unfortunately, Money only seems to allow me to delete payees one at a time,
which is rather frustrating. Rather than get carpal tunnel syndrome, I
downloaded a program that will simulate key strokes, so I can run that and
delete payees (I sorted by last payment date, the vast majority of these
payees have never been paid).

Anyway, I am hoping once this is done (probably in a few days) the speed of
the file will speed up.

John

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" <glyn[at]serf.org> wrote in message
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with the match/unmatch of transactions, try going to the payee rules manager
and removing duplicates and those from companies that you (probably) will
never need again, or checks which have been matches and will never match on
the same check number again. A user in the UK group reported this as helping
his file speed up.

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

Check http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny
for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or
suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp
or http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback especially
if it's a UK specific wish.

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"MAB" <MAB[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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I've owned Money 2003 to 2005, and the performance problem has grown
progressively worse. It irritates me that Microsoft so far has refused to
even acknowledge that the problem exists.

Microsoft's advice is the same as always: archive (big mess, different
problem); repair (doesn't work); remove Passport (no impact).

The reality is that when you do certain operations (Tax summary,
match/unmatch and accept transactions) the msmoney process uses up 100% of
CPU and it just sits there for several minutes.

I initially had these problems on my "old" P4-1.33 GHz/768 MB RAM (Money
2003-2004) and continue to experience these in my new P4-3.00GHz-HT with
512MB RAM. msmoney just eats up whatever CPU it can find.

Now I am seriously considering going back to Quicken even if it means a
painful migration process. My stress level shoots up when I have to wait one
minute for the program to respond to a mouse click.

Is Microsoft ever going to do something?

Thanks!
Mariano

"Cal Learner-- MVP" wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, AMW wrote:

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Are you running a background SETI or other application?

File-> RepairMoneyFile-> QuickFileRepair probably won't speed things
up, but it is simple and worth a try.

You might make an extra copy or backup of your file. Then try
removing the Passport. Does that make a significant difference?

You can restore the copy or backup if you like.

I have been using Money since 1996. I have upgraded each
year, each time upgrading the file. I also archive all
trasactions from Jan 1 - Dec 31. This program runs very
slowly even without all the extra transactions. I can't
figure it out. I download transactions and it takes
forever for them to show up in the register. When I accept
them, it takes forever for that to take. This was also the
case in Money 2004. Are there any reccomendations? Should
I start a new file and import the tranactions? HELP