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Old 10-06-2004, 02:10 AM
Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]
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Yep... I am going to treat myself one of these days.

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"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> Other CRT effects like "swim" and "jitter" may also cause you problems.
> You are probably a perfect candidate for a DVI-D interface LCD.
> "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> news:eCpKy7sqEHA.1456[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I bumped mine up to 70 HZ some time ago and it did make a big difference.
> > Not really the flicker that causes the headaches. I am just bad that way
> > in general. I get motion sickness playing video games with my kids on a
> > 27" TV screen also.



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Old 10-05-2004, 12:09 PM
Dick Watson
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Other CRT effects like "swim" and "jitter" may also cause you problems. You
are probably a perfect candidate for a DVI-D interface LCD.

"Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
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> I bumped mine up to 70 HZ some time ago and it did make a big difference.
> Not really the flicker that causes the headaches. I am just bad that way
> in general. I get motion sickness playing video games with my kids on a
> 27" TV screen also.



  #15  
Old 10-05-2004, 11:32 AM
Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]
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Default Re: Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

I bumped mine up to 70 HZ some time ago and it did make a big difference.
Not really the flicker that causes the headaches. I am just bad that way in
general. I get motion sickness playing video games with my kids on a 27" TV
screen also.

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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> In microsoft.public.money, Chris Cowles wrote:
> > I get headaches from large monitors, too. It's a matter of scale, where
> > the
> > monitor is a distance away from you that is proportionate to its size. I
> > find my 17" LCD, place about 2' away, to be a very good combination.
> > That's
> > obviously a matter of personal taste.
> > --
> > Chris Cowles,
> > Gainesville, FL
> > > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message

> > news:uR0nUSoqEHA.3744[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > About 18". It's a Trinitron, and I use Mozilla with text magnification
> > > when necessary. Ludicrous as it sounds large monitors give me
> > > headaches.

> > If you folks are getting headaches, I suspect a CRT with 60 Hz

> refresh. I would bump the refresh to 85 Hz or better if you can.
> An LCD monitor latches the data and does not get the flicker, even
> at 60 Hz refresh.
> I like LCD with a DVI input, and I stop animations.



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Old 10-05-2004, 03:11 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Chris Cowles wrote:

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> I get headaches from large monitors, too. It's a matter of scale, where the
> monitor is a distance away from you that is proportionate to its size. I
> find my 17" LCD, place about 2' away, to be a very good combination. That's
> obviously a matter of personal taste.
> --
> Chris Cowles,
> Gainesville, FL
> "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> news:uR0nUSoqEHA.3744[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > About 18". It's a Trinitron, and I use Mozilla with text magnification
> > when necessary. Ludicrous as it sounds large monitors give me headaches.


If you folks are getting headaches, I suspect a CRT with 60 Hz
refresh. I would bump the refresh to 85 Hz or better if you can.

An LCD monitor latches the data and does not get the flicker, even
at 60 Hz refresh.

I like LCD with a DVI input, and I stop animations.

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Old 10-05-2004, 02:57 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

I get headaches from large monitors, too. It's a matter of scale, where the
monitor is a distance away from you that is proportionate to its size. I
find my 17" LCD, place about 2' away, to be a very good combination. That's
obviously a matter of personal taste.
--
Chris Cowles,
Gainesville, FL

"Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
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> About 18". It's a Trinitron, and I use Mozilla with text magnification
> when necessary. Ludicrous as it sounds large monitors give me headaches.



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Old 10-05-2004, 02:40 AM
Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]
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Default Re: Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

About 18". It's a Trinitron, and I use Mozilla with text magnification when
necessary. Ludicrous as it sounds large monitors give me headaches.

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Michael Abbaticchio
http://exchange.mvps.org


"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > I
> > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > transaction forms.



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Old 10-04-2004, 04:13 AM
Vadim Rapp
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Hello StevenFromTexas:
You wrote in conference microsoft.public.money on Sun, 3 Oct 2004
17:47:26 -0600:

S> ENTERING TRANSACTIONS, which is supposed to be the main purpose of these
S> types of programs.

The main purpose of this type of programs is delivering advertising content.


Vadim

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Old 10-04-2004, 03:55 AM
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On my desktop I run 1280x1024 on 18.1 diag. This puts you at about 94 dpi
and my desktop at about 88 dpi. You're actually seeing a higher DPI than the
OP, again assuming his 14" is all viewable.

It would probably be hard to tell any of the three of them were different
dpi except side-by-side.

"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> 1280 x 1024 on a 17" LCD (Dell 1703FP) . Never attempted to figure out how
> it compares to yours.
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:eV2tsQcqEHA.2724[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > BTW, 1,024 pixels on the OPs 14" diagonal (11.2" horizontal on a 3:4
> > aspect ratio screen assuming that all 14" is viewable) works out to 91
> > dpi. (WinXP quotes "normal size" at 96 dpi.) What are you running?



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Old 10-04-2004, 03:50 AM
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1280 x 1024 on a 17" LCD (Dell 1703FP) . Never attempted to figure out how
it compares to yours.

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> BTW, 1,024 pixels on the OPs 14" diagonal (11.2" horizontal on a 3:4
> aspect ratio screen assuming that all 14" is viewable) works out to 91
> dpi. (WinXP quotes "normal size" at 96 dpi.) What are you running?



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Old 10-04-2004, 03:50 AM
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Chris Cowles wrote in <OV6eVGcqEHA.1960[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> :

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> 1024 x 768?
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:uaYPR7bqEHA.2340[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I'm not so sure. I run it on my laptop at 10.5" diag.
> > > "Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message

> > news:OFpoawaqEHA.376[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> > > > > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > > > I
> > > > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > > > transaction forms.


Numerous laptops have that as native resolution.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:40 AM
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BTW, 1,024 pixels on the OPs 14" diagonal (11.2" horizontal on a 3:4 aspect
ratio screen assuming that all 14" is viewable) works out to 91 dpi. (WinXP
quotes "normal size" at 96 dpi.) What are you running?

"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> 1024 x 768?
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:uaYPR7bqEHA.2340[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I'm not so sure. I run it on my laptop at 10.5" diag.
> > > "Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message

> > news:OFpoawaqEHA.376[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> > > > > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > > > I
> > > > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > > > transaction forms.



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Old 10-04-2004, 03:35 AM
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Yep.

"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> 1024 x 768?
> "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
> message news:uaYPR7bqEHA.2340[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I'm not so sure. I run it on my laptop at 10.5" diag.
> > > "Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message

> > news:OFpoawaqEHA.376[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> > > > > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > > > I
> > > > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > > > transaction forms.
> > > > > >


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Old 10-04-2004, 03:23 AM
Chris Cowles
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1024 x 768?

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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> I'm not so sure. I run it on my laptop at 10.5" diag.
> "Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
> news:OFpoawaqEHA.376[at]TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> > > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message

> > news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > > I
> > > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > > transaction forms.

> >


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Old 10-04-2004, 03:02 AM
Dick Watson
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I'm not so sure. I run it on my laptop at 10.5" diag.

"Chris Cowles" <NoSpam[at]For.me> wrote in message
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> How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.
> "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> news:uB6UsnaqEHA.1644[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint.
> > I
> > set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> > transaction forms.



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Old 10-04-2004, 01:44 AM
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I got out a ruler and measured the dead space on my computer three times
before I started this topic. 64 square inches divided by 192 square inches
is 33.33%. Since I am complaining, I rounded up to 34%. The fact is
the program needs one line for drop down menus, and that's it!

I guess the best comparison I can make is the Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe
installation disk probably took up about 3% of the box it came in. Talk
about bloat.


"Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
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> I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint. I
> set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> transaction forms.
> --
> regards,
> Michael Abbaticchio
> http://exchange.mvps.org
> "StevenFromTexas" <xxx[at]xxx.net> wrote in message
> news:%23zTQcrZqEHA.1960[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > After getting through all of the BUGS in Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe
> > (seems
> > ALL 2005 versions are affected after reading recent posts), I can't
> > believe
> > how much screen real estate at the top is wasted on icons and row after
> > row
> > after row of text and options that really have nothing to do with

ENTERING
> > TRANSACTIONS, which is supposed to be the main purpose of these types of
> > programs. Oh, and don't forget the frozen-in-place list of things that
> > can
> > be done that takes up space on the left side of the screen. About 34%

of
> > my
> > screen is, in effect, out of service as a result of your over-indulgence
> > in
> > GARBAGE!
> > > Hello, Microsoft, some of us actually know how to use pull-down menus,

and
> > find that quite satisfactory. I'm sure you're aiming the product at
> > adolescents with all of the crap that takes up space on the screen, but
> > the
> > last time I checked, most ten-year-olds don't have much use for this

type
> > of
> > program.

>

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Old 10-04-2004, 12:50 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

How close do you sit to it? That's REALLY small.

"Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam[at]abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
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> I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint. I
> set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
> transaction forms.



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Old 10-04-2004, 12:34 AM
Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]
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I use a 14" monitor at 1024 x 768 and do not agree with this complaint. I
set the register to view one line / transaction and do not display
transaction forms.

--

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Michael Abbaticchio
http://exchange.mvps.org


"StevenFromTexas" <xxx[at]xxx.net> wrote in message
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> After getting through all of the BUGS in Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe
> (seems
> ALL 2005 versions are affected after reading recent posts), I can't
> believe
> how much screen real estate at the top is wasted on icons and row after
> row
> after row of text and options that really have nothing to do with ENTERING
> TRANSACTIONS, which is supposed to be the main purpose of these types of
> programs. Oh, and don't forget the frozen-in-place list of things that
> can
> be done that takes up space on the left side of the screen. About 34% of
> my
> screen is, in effect, out of service as a result of your over-indulgence
> in
> GARBAGE!
> Hello, Microsoft, some of us actually know how to use pull-down menus, and
> find that quite satisfactory. I'm sure you're aiming the product at
> adolescents with all of the crap that takes up space on the screen, but
> the
> last time I checked, most ten-year-olds don't have much use for this type
> of
> program.



 
Old 10-03-2004, 11:58 PM
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Default Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

What is wrong with you? Are you telling me you don't
think that FOUR horizontal navigation bars, one vertical
navigation bar, and a slew of other random links and
buttons on every page is NOT simple?!

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> -----Original Message-----
> After getting through all of the BUGS in Microsoft Money

2005 Deluxe (seems
> ALL 2005 versions are affected after reading recent

posts), I can't believe
> how much screen real estate at the top is wasted on

icons and row after row
> after row of text and options that really have nothing

to do with ENTERING
> TRANSACTIONS, which is supposed to be the main purpose

of these types of
> programs. Oh, and don't forget the frozen-in-place list

of things that can
> be done that takes up space on the left side of the

screen. About 34% of my
> screen is, in effect, out of service as a result of your

over-indulgence in
> GARBAGE!
> Hello, Microsoft, some of us actually know how to use

pull-down menus, and
> find that quite satisfactory. I'm sure you're aiming

the product at
> adolescents with all of the crap that takes up space on

the screen, but the
> last time I checked, most ten-year-olds don't have much

use for this type of
> program.
> .

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Old 10-03-2004, 11:47 PM
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Default Money 2005 WASTES screen real estate

After getting through all of the BUGS in Microsoft Money 2005 Deluxe (seems
ALL 2005 versions are affected after reading recent posts), I can't believe
how much screen real estate at the top is wasted on icons and row after row
after row of text and options that really have nothing to do with ENTERING
TRANSACTIONS, which is supposed to be the main purpose of these types of
programs. Oh, and don't forget the frozen-in-place list of things that can
be done that takes up space on the left side of the screen. About 34% of my
screen is, in effect, out of service as a result of your over-indulgence in
GARBAGE!

Hello, Microsoft, some of us actually know how to use pull-down menus, and
find that quite satisfactory. I'm sure you're aiming the product at
adolescents with all of the crap that takes up space on the screen, but the
last time I checked, most ten-year-olds don't have much use for this type of
program.


 

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