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Old 10-22-2004, 04:27 AM
Joe Guidera
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Yup. Specially since they way they have it setup it could be a transaction
set.

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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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> In microsoft.public.money, Joe Guidera wrote:
> > It has also been reproduced by engineering and technical support and they
> > are supposedly working on it as well. Either side can fix the problem,
> > but
> > I believe "technically" the format of the data that Vanguard produces
> > meets
> > the OFX format requirements and 04 handled it correctly....

> You believe that the OFX spec says that a provider can put in two
> different position amounts for a security in an OFX file, and that
> that should be interpreted as meaning the sum of the two numbers is
> the actual position?



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Old 10-20-2004, 03:47 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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In microsoft.public.money, Joe Guidera wrote:

- quote -

> It has also been reproduced by engineering and technical support and they
> are supposedly working on it as well. Either side can fix the problem, but
> I believe "technically" the format of the data that Vanguard produces meets
> the OFX format requirements and 04 handled it correctly....


You believe that the OFX spec says that a provider can put in two
different position amounts for a security in an OFX file, and that
that should be interpreted as meaning the sum of the two numbers is
the actual position?

  #8  
Old 10-20-2004, 02:56 AM
Joe Guidera
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It has also been reproduced by engineering and technical support and they
are supposedly working on it as well. Either side can fix the problem, but
I believe "technically" the format of the data that Vanguard produces meets
the OFX format requirements and 04 handled it correctly....

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"Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
news:eiYYwOHtEHA.2956[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Hi Joe,
> Vanguard informs me that they have reproduced this problem and are
> pursuing it through their business contacts.
> Myron
> "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
> news:u3Ytg9nrEHA.1296[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > FYI: The problem occurs whether you do it from within Money or download
> > the OFX from the site since the bug exists in the import logic.
> > > Please be sure to open a support incident at

> > https://webresponse.one.microsoft.com
> > > Maybe if enough of us log issues on some of these things they'll stop

> > saying this is "isolated" problems and start fixing things instead.
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------------

> > Joe Guidera
> > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > "bigme99" <bigme99[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:G0g8d.619070$gE.576441[at]pd7tw3no...
> > > Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
> > > import result between Money 2004 and 2005...
> > > > > I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line
> > > update"
> > > feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
> > > users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because
> > > they
> > > don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.
> > > > > Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from
> > > Vanguard's web site manually?
> > > > > > > "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
> > > news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well.
> > > > It
> > > > appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a
> > > single
> > > > position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.
> > > Money
> > > > 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts
> > > > to
> > > > remove shares.
> > > > > > > See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ----------- > > > > Joe Guidera
> > > > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st
> > > > > time.
> > > > > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > > > > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe
> > > out
> > > > > most of my holdings.
> > > > > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions
> > > manually.
> > > > > > > > > Myron
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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Old 10-17-2004, 06:04 PM
Myron J. Mandell
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Hi Joe,

Vanguard informs me that they have reproduced this problem and are pursuing
it through their business contacts.

Myron

"Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
news:u3Ytg9nrEHA.1296[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> FYI: The problem occurs whether you do it from within Money or download
> the OFX from the site since the bug exists in the import logic.
> Please be sure to open a support incident at
> https://webresponse.one.microsoft.com
> Maybe if enough of us log issues on some of these things they'll stop
> saying this is "isolated" problems and start fixing things instead.
> --
> ----------- > Joe Guidera
> jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> "bigme99" <bigme99[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:G0g8d.619070$gE.576441[at]pd7tw3no...
> > Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
> > import result between Money 2004 and 2005...
> > > I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line

> > update"
> > feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
> > users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because
> > they
> > don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.
> > > Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from

> > Vanguard's web site manually?
> > > > "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message

> > news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> > > appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a

> > single
> > > position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.

> > Money
> > > 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts
> > > to
> > > remove shares.
> > > > > See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> > > > > --
> > > > > ----------- > > > Joe Guidera
> > > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > > > > > "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st
> > > > time.
> > > > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > > > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe

> > out
> > > > most of my holdings.
> > > > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions

> > manually.
> > > > > > > Myron
> > > > > > > > > > > >


  #6  
Old 10-10-2004, 04:12 AM
Joe Guidera
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

FYI: The problem occurs whether you do it from within Money or download the
OFX from the site since the bug exists in the import logic.

Please be sure to open a support incident at
https://webresponse.one.microsoft.com

Maybe if enough of us log issues on some of these things they'll stop saying
this is "isolated" problems and start fixing things instead.

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jguidera[at]msn.com.remove



"bigme99" <bigme99[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G0g8d.619070$gE.576441[at]pd7tw3no...
- quote -

> Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
> import result between Money 2004 and 2005...
> I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line
> update"
> feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
> users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because
> they
> don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.
> Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from
> Vanguard's web site manually?
> "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
> news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> > appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a

> single
> > position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.

> Money
> > 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts to
> > remove shares.
> > > See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------------

> > Joe Guidera
> > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st
> > > time.
> > > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe

> out
> > > most of my holdings.
> > > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions

> manually.
> > > > > Myron
> > > > > >


  #5  
Old 10-05-2004, 06:04 PM
William Driscoll
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

Joe Guidera wrote:

- quote -

> I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a single
> position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information. Money
> 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts to
> remove shares.
> See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information


I thought I was doing something wrong Thank for the information
  #4  
Old 10-05-2004, 05:20 AM
bigme99
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

Have you tried the on-line update feature? I couldn't get it to work. If you
have the same problem, then it would confirm my suspection that the 401k
account is the cause.

"Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
news:eO$T3VoqEHA.556[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I am downloading it from Vanguard's site, and Money then imports it.
> Money goes through a few dialogs, so that I have a chance to see that it

is
> screwing up and tell it not to wipe out my positions.
> By the way, thanks to Joe for having this so well documented on his site.
> Myron
> "bigme99" <bigme99[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:G0g8d.619070$gE.576441[at]pd7tw3no...
> > Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
> > import result between Money 2004 and 2005...
> > > I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line

> > update"
> > feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
> > users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because
> > they
> > don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.
> > > Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from

> > Vanguard's web site manually?
> > > > "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message

> > news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well.

It
> > > appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a

> > single
> > > position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.

> > Money
> > > 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts

to
> > > remove shares.
> > > > > See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> > > > > --
> > > > > ----------- > > > Joe Guidera
> > > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > > > > > "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st
> > > > time.
> > > > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > > > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe

> > out
> > > > most of my holdings.
> > > > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions

> > manually.
> > > > > > > Myron
> > > > > > > > > > >

  #3  
Old 10-05-2004, 02:46 AM
Myron J. Mandell
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

I am downloading it from Vanguard's site, and Money then imports it.
Money goes through a few dialogs, so that I have a chance to see that it is
screwing up and tell it not to wipe out my positions.

By the way, thanks to Joe for having this so well documented on his site.

Myron

"bigme99" <bigme99[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:G0g8d.619070$gE.576441[at]pd7tw3no...
- quote -

> Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
> import result between Money 2004 and 2005...
> I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line
> update"
> feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
> users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because
> they
> don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.
> Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from
> Vanguard's web site manually?
> "Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
> news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> > appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a

> single
> > position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.

> Money
> > 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts to
> > remove shares.
> > > See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------------

> > Joe Guidera
> > jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> > > > > "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message

> > news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st
> > > time.
> > > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe

> out
> > > most of my holdings.
> > > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions

> manually.
> > > > > Myron
> > > > > >


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Old 10-04-2004, 05:47 PM
bigme99
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Yes, I just noticed the same problem this morning when comparing the OFX
import result between Money 2004 and 2005...

I think this might be the reason that I still can't use the "on-line update"
feature connecting to Vanguard in 2005. I was wondering why some others
users are not expereincing the same problem, now I suspect it's because they
don't have a 401k account with Vanguard.

Myron, are you using the on-line update or downloading the OFX from
Vanguard's web site manually?


"Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
news:OCust0bqEHA.348[at]TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a

single
> position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information.

Money
> 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts to
> remove shares.
> See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information
> --
> ----------- > Joe Guidera
> jguidera[at]msn.com.remove
> "Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st time.
> > (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> > Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe

out
> > most of my holdings.
> > Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions

manually.
> > > Myron

>

  #1  
Old 10-04-2004, 03:17 AM
Chris Cowles
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

WOW.

"Joe Guidera" <jguidera[at]msn.com.remove> wrote in message
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- quote -

> I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
> appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a
> single position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this
> information. Money 2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a
> result attempts to remove shares.



 
Old 10-04-2004, 02:52 AM
Joe Guidera
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Default Re: Vanguard and 2005

I've reported this bug but you should also open an incident as well. It
appears that the downloaded OFX data contains multiple entries for a single
position. Prior versions of Money correctly summed this information. Money
2005 is only seeing the "last" entry for this and as a result attempts to
remove shares.

See http://www.jguidera.com/money_2005_bugs.htm for more information

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"Myron J. Mandell" <anonymous[at]msn.com> wrote in message
news:%23RL%23t8PqEHA.3520[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st time.
> (It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
> Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe out
> most of my holdings.
> Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions manually.
> Myron



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Old 10-03-2004, 04:12 AM
Myron J. Mandell
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Default Vanguard and 2005

Today tried downloading my Vanguard 401(k) into Money 2005 for 1st time.
(It had been working just fine in Money 2004.)
Instead of adding little bits of stock as usual, it was ready to wipe out
most of my holdings.
Luckily, I caught it in time and entered the recent transactions manually.

Myron


 

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