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Old 08-08-2003, 03:19 AM
Ion Control
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Default Re: Billpay Date problems

Sure does. Thanks!

"Douglas E Wilson" <DEWilson[at]email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> Here's the simple explanation of how MSN Bill Pay processes:
> (1) You submit the request to pay a bill on such and such date (the
earliest
> that date can be is limited by the lead time).
> (2) Generally you'll get a response telling you that you can cancel the
> payment up until a specified date and time (if it's to be paid by EFT,
then
> generally you can cancel it up until the day before the due date).
> (3) If MSN Bill Pay is paying the bill through EFT, the funds will be
> withdrawn from your bank account on the date that you specified when you
set
> up the payment.
> (4) If MSN Bill Pay is cutting a check to send to the payee, the
processing
> is no different than if you had cut the check yourself; i.e., the funds
will
> disappear from your bank account after the payee has deposited the check
and
> it has cleared your bank.
> My understanding, and this may be part of the issue with you, is that many
> banks withdraw the funds to pay the bill 4-7 days in advance of the due
date
> that you specify. MSN Bill Pay withdraws the funds on the due date, at
the
> earliest.
> Maybe that helps????
> Doug
> "Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message
> news:eZVYxu3WDHA.1620[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > OK. Thanks. I'm used to my bank clearing a bill 4 business days after
I
> > initiate it, and the BillPay method on anticipating a bill is unnerving
> > (i.e. my bank said "payment accepted" today and "payment cleared" in 4
> days,
> > whereas BillPay says "give us 5 days and we'll get back to you".)
> > nevertheless, sounds like I need to give it some more time. I'll give
it
> > one more chance
> > > "Douglas E Wilson" <DEWilson[at]email.msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:evBHq01WDHA.1280[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > (1) The seven days seems a bit much . . . however, depending on the
> actual
> > > nature of the payment (paper check in the mail vs. an electronic
> > transfer),
> > > Bill Pay does need a bit of lead time. How many bills do you get that
> are
> > > actually due within 7 days of receipt????
> > > > > (2) As far as sending out a payment on Friday and not having it show
up
> on
> > > Monday afternoon, that doesn't sound too unusual. If the payment was
> > > initiated on a Friday, the recipient may not have it posted until
after
> a
> > > Monday night cycle (or later).
> > > > > (3) More than likely you're bank is using CheckFree, as well, so you
may
> > not
> > > get much more for your $5/month than you're getting now.
> > > > > (4) I guess the real question is not what's happening that you're not
> > happy
> > > with, but what your expectations are. You really haven't spelled
those
> > out.
> > > This could be a case of your expectations being greater than what MSN
> Bill
> > > Pay or some other service can offer, or it may be a lack of
> understanding
> > on
> > > your part of how the processing occurs. It's hard to tell which based
> > upon
> > > the information you've provided.
> > > > > (5) FWIW, I've been using MSN Bill Pay (and/or its ancestors) for
> several
> > > years and it's always worked just as I anticipated.
> > > > > Doug
> > > > > "Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uu1gSrxWDHA.1744[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > BillPay seems to take an incredibly long time to pay bills. For
> > instance,
> > > I
> > > > tried to pay a bill last Wednesday and the earliest date payment
could
> > be
> > > > made was 7 days later! Is this 7 days to clear or just 7 days to
> send?
> > > > Also, BillPay "sent" a payment out of one of my accounts Friday, but
> as
> > of
> > > > Monday PM, it has not shown up. What's going on? There's almost no
> > real
> > > > useful information on the Billpay site and the very vague dates are
> > making
> > > > me think that paying my bank $5/month for their payment service is
> much
> > > > sounder than this BillPay uncertainty...
> > > > > > > > > > >
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Old 08-06-2003, 02:14 AM
Douglas E Wilson
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Default Re: Billpay Date problems

Here's the simple explanation of how MSN Bill Pay processes:

(1) You submit the request to pay a bill on such and such date (the earliest
that date can be is limited by the lead time).

(2) Generally you'll get a response telling you that you can cancel the
payment up until a specified date and time (if it's to be paid by EFT, then
generally you can cancel it up until the day before the due date).

(3) If MSN Bill Pay is paying the bill through EFT, the funds will be
withdrawn from your bank account on the date that you specified when you set
up the payment.

(4) If MSN Bill Pay is cutting a check to send to the payee, the processing
is no different than if you had cut the check yourself; i.e., the funds will
disappear from your bank account after the payee has deposited the check and
it has cleared your bank.

My understanding, and this may be part of the issue with you, is that many
banks withdraw the funds to pay the bill 4-7 days in advance of the due date
that you specify. MSN Bill Pay withdraws the funds on the due date, at the
earliest.

Maybe that helps????

Doug

"Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message
news:eZVYxu3WDHA.1620[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> OK. Thanks. I'm used to my bank clearing a bill 4 business days after I
> initiate it, and the BillPay method on anticipating a bill is unnerving
> (i.e. my bank said "payment accepted" today and "payment cleared" in 4
days,
> whereas BillPay says "give us 5 days and we'll get back to you".)
> nevertheless, sounds like I need to give it some more time. I'll give it
> one more chance
> "Douglas E Wilson" <DEWilson[at]email.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:evBHq01WDHA.1280[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > (1) The seven days seems a bit much . . . however, depending on the
actual
> > nature of the payment (paper check in the mail vs. an electronic
> transfer),
> > Bill Pay does need a bit of lead time. How many bills do you get that
are
> > actually due within 7 days of receipt????
> > > (2) As far as sending out a payment on Friday and not having it show up
on
> > Monday afternoon, that doesn't sound too unusual. If the payment was
> > initiated on a Friday, the recipient may not have it posted until after
a
> > Monday night cycle (or later).
> > > (3) More than likely you're bank is using CheckFree, as well, so you may
> not
> > get much more for your $5/month than you're getting now.
> > > (4) I guess the real question is not what's happening that you're not
> happy
> > with, but what your expectations are. You really haven't spelled those
> out.
> > This could be a case of your expectations being greater than what MSN
Bill
> > Pay or some other service can offer, or it may be a lack of
understanding
> on
> > your part of how the processing occurs. It's hard to tell which based
> upon
> > the information you've provided.
> > > (5) FWIW, I've been using MSN Bill Pay (and/or its ancestors) for
several
> > years and it's always worked just as I anticipated.
> > > Doug
> > > "Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message
> > news:uu1gSrxWDHA.1744[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > BillPay seems to take an incredibly long time to pay bills. For
> instance,
> > I
> > > tried to pay a bill last Wednesday and the earliest date payment could
> be
> > > made was 7 days later! Is this 7 days to clear or just 7 days to
send?
> > > Also, BillPay "sent" a payment out of one of my accounts Friday, but
as
> of
> > > Monday PM, it has not shown up. What's going on? There's almost no
> real
> > > useful information on the Billpay site and the very vague dates are
> making
> > > me think that paying my bank $5/month for their payment service is
much
> > > sounder than this BillPay uncertainty...
> > > > >
 
Old 08-05-2003, 06:02 PM
Ion Control
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Default Re: Billpay Date problems

OK. Thanks. I'm used to my bank clearing a bill 4 business days after I
initiate it, and the BillPay method on anticipating a bill is unnerving
(i.e. my bank said "payment accepted" today and "payment cleared" in 4 days,
whereas BillPay says "give us 5 days and we'll get back to you".)
nevertheless, sounds like I need to give it some more time. I'll give it
one more chance

"Douglas E Wilson" <DEWilson[at]email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:evBHq01WDHA.1280[at]tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> (1) The seven days seems a bit much . . . however, depending on the actual
> nature of the payment (paper check in the mail vs. an electronic
transfer),
> Bill Pay does need a bit of lead time. How many bills do you get that are
> actually due within 7 days of receipt????
> (2) As far as sending out a payment on Friday and not having it show up on
> Monday afternoon, that doesn't sound too unusual. If the payment was
> initiated on a Friday, the recipient may not have it posted until after a
> Monday night cycle (or later).
> (3) More than likely you're bank is using CheckFree, as well, so you may
not
> get much more for your $5/month than you're getting now.
> (4) I guess the real question is not what's happening that you're not
happy
> with, but what your expectations are. You really haven't spelled those
out.
> This could be a case of your expectations being greater than what MSN Bill
> Pay or some other service can offer, or it may be a lack of understanding
on
> your part of how the processing occurs. It's hard to tell which based
upon
> the information you've provided.
> (5) FWIW, I've been using MSN Bill Pay (and/or its ancestors) for several
> years and it's always worked just as I anticipated.
> Doug
> "Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message
> news:uu1gSrxWDHA.1744[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > BillPay seems to take an incredibly long time to pay bills. For
instance,
> I
> > tried to pay a bill last Wednesday and the earliest date payment could
be
> > made was 7 days later! Is this 7 days to clear or just 7 days to send?
> > Also, BillPay "sent" a payment out of one of my accounts Friday, but as
of
> > Monday PM, it has not shown up. What's going on? There's almost no
real
> > useful information on the Billpay site and the very vague dates are
making
> > me think that paying my bank $5/month for their payment service is much
> > sounder than this BillPay uncertainty...
>
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Old 08-05-2003, 06:28 AM
Ion Control
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Default Billpay Date problems

BillPay seems to take an incredibly long time to pay bills. For instance, I
tried to pay a bill last Wednesday and the earliest date payment could be
made was 7 days later! Is this 7 days to clear or just 7 days to send?
Also, BillPay "sent" a payment out of one of my accounts Friday, but as of
Monday PM, it has not shown up. What's going on? There's almost no real
useful information on the Billpay site and the very vague dates are making
me think that paying my bank $5/month for their payment service is much
sounder than this BillPay uncertainty...


 

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