In microsoft.public.money, Kevin Campbell wrote:

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What is unclear to me is, did Money insert both sets of transactions
in one or two downloads? Or had you entered a set manually
beforehand, and Money did not match downloaded entries to the
manually entered ones?



<snip> > I am curious where the problem occurs. Here is a test you can do:
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That will be an interesting test. You could accelerate things by
restoring a backup TO A DIFFERENT FILENAME. Then that filename would
lack the transactions your main Money file has. You download, and
there are transactions the test file has not seen yet. So with the
Ctrl+Shift+<clickConnect> you get lots of "new' transactions.

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
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Well, it is happening, I verified it last night.


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I only had to delete them because Money added duplicate ones. It didn't see
the ones that were entered when I downloaded the statement because the date
that was entered there was the date I downloaded the statement, not the date
of the transaction.

Yes I could, and I did that last night after importing my statement I went
in and changed the date from 9/16 to 9/15 for the 6 or 7 transactions that
were added when I downloaded and accepted my statement. But that means that
I have to go to the Fidelity site and manually lookup the transactions for
the month and match them to what was entered into MOney and change the dates
to match the statement. It seems to me that Money should do that!
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adedTransactions
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That is set. These transactions are being added when I accept the
transactions from the downloaded statement, not manually by me. This
setting doesn't seem to do anything in this case.
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I will try this test the next time I download a statement. Thanks for the
advice. However, let me tell you what happened last night.

I went to the Fidelity site and looked at the transactions they have posted
there I saw, for instance, transactions dated 9/15/2004 buying shares of
several funds. Now, yesterday, 9/16, I went into Money and downloaded the
statement from Fidelity. I then went to that account in Money and clicked
Read Statement. At that point the dialog box that shows the transactions
that were downloaded says, at the top, Transactions dated 09/15/2004 (or
words to that effect). That's fine and agrees with what I saw on the
Fidelity site. Now I click on Accept transactions and the dialog still says
Transactions Dated 09/15/2004. Now I click Finish and the dialog closes and
I look at the register for that account and I now see several new
transactions in the register and they are dated 09/16/2004 NOT 09/15/2004.
When Money actually added the transactions into the register it used the
current date (9/16) instead of the transaction date as reported on the
Fidelity statement (9/15).

Kevin

As I stated in my original post. When I go to the Fidelity site and look at
the transactions they have posted there I see, for instance, transactions
dated 9/15/2004 buying shares of several funds. Now, yesterday, 9/16, I
went into Money and downloaded the statement from Fidelity. I then went to
that account in Money and clicked Read Statement. At that point the dialog
box that shows the transactions that were downloaded says, at the top,
Transactions dated 09/15/2004 (or words to that effect). That's fine and
agrees with what I saw on the Fidelity site. Now I click on Accept
transactions and the dialog still says Transactions Dated 09/15/2004. Now I
click Finish and the dialog closes and I look at the register for that
account and I now see several new transactions in the register and they are
dated 09/16/2004 NOT 09/15/2004. When Money actually added the transactions
into the register it used the current date (9/16) instead of the transaction
date as reported on the Fidelity statement (9/15).

This isn't a matter of my company not posting the funds to Fidelity. I'm
talking about transactions that Fidelity is showing as already having been
done and posted to my account.

Kevin

"Art McClinton" <art[at]nova.org> wrote in message
news:NXp2d.2370$fA1.1399[at]lakeread02...
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To veryify your claim, go to the fidelity web site and log in and view
what it has to say the dates are. I have found that for the past 28
years my company has submitted my contributions every other friday
(every friday for the first 12 years of that period) and fidelity has
credited the money to my account the same day! I have had a few times
were it showed up a day or two late and in all cases it was because
Friday was a bank or exchange holiday and it could not be credited until
Monday. Thus I have never seen what you claim. I think your company is
getting the money in late. I personally know that my company actually
sends the money on Wednesday with a Friday release date. If you send it
on Thursday with a Friday release date you will get it in on Friday most
of the time but will miss sufficient times so the employee will wonder
what has happened.

I do not think the problem is in Money, the download, or Fidelity.

Art

Kevin Campbell wrote:

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In microsoft.public.money, Kevin Campbell wrote:

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I don't remember seeing that kind of behavior discussed before.

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You could simplify things by changing the date on the transaction
rather than deleting the transaction.

There is one setting here that could, in cases where you have
manually pre-entered the transaction, affect the date:
Tools-> Options-> OnlineServices-> OverwriteTransactionDatesWithDatesFromDownloadedTr ansactions

I set that. If you had not pre-entered a transaction, the setting
should not matter.


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I am curious where the problem occurs. Here is a test you can do:

When you expect a transaction to be available click Internet
Updates. Then hold down the Cntl+Shift keys while pressing the
Connect button. That will save the transaction info into two files.
Where nnnnnnn represents a number, "FidelityInvestments nnnnnnn
RQ.txt" is the request info, and "FidelityInvestments nnnnnnn
RS.txt" is the response file.

Copy the "FidelityInvestments nnnnnnn RS.txt" to a file named
"test.xml". Enter the address of test.xml into the Address box of
IE6, or in IE6 File-> Open and browse to the test.xml. That will give
a nicely formatted view of the file. Nicely formatted is relative.
It will still probably look obscure.

Find a line that says
"<DTTRADE> 20040830070000.000[-4:EDT]</DTTRADE> "
except the number will differ. That number in this example says
2004 August 30th at 07:00 EDT. The "<TOTAL> +000000000n.nn</TOTALamount that follows perhaps 8 lines down can help identify which
transaction is which if there is more than one.

When you find the date for the transaction, you will know what
Fidelity is telling Money was the date of the trade. What do you
find?

I download my 401k statement from Fidelity and I have a question about the
transaction dates that Money comes up with. For instance, today I went to
the Fidelity site to look at my account balances and transaction history. I
see that yesterday (9/15) my company made the latest deposit to the 401k for
my contributions and the company match amounts. These funds purchased
shares in the funds that I elected. The date on these transactions is 9/15.
However, when I go into Money and ask to download the latest statement from
Fidelity and I read and import that statement into my Money 401k account the
dates on these transactions will be the day that I download the statement,
today, 9/16, for instance or tomorrow or whatever day I download and import
the statement.

This causes a problem at the end of the month because usually the company
makes a deposit on the last day of the month but it is usually a day or two
later that I download the statement into Money. This causes those last
transactions to have a date of the next month instead of the last of the
previous month. When I then balance my account with the month end paper
statement that I get from Fidelity, Money doesn't see those last
transactions as being part of that month's statement and so it adds
duplicate transactions with a date of the last day of the month.

Now I have to go in and delete the transactions that were imported from the
downloaded statement to make the account balance correctly.

Is there any way to tell Money to use the actual transaction date as
reported by the downloaded statement rather that the current date that I
imported the statement?

Thanks

Kevin Campbell